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 Post subject: V V: An entire Israeli mission defects
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Village Voice: SCIENTOLOGY CRUMBLING: An Entire Church Mission Defects as David Miscavige Faces Leadership Crisis
In Israel,
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The Dror Center, with about 50 people associated with it, is a healthy size for a mission...
On January 2, Lemberger received a copy of Debbie Cook's infamous New Year's Eve e-mail...
Lemberger reacted to Debbie Cook's e-mail by forwarding it to church officials, asking them to comment on it. Instead, the church's Office of Special Affairs put him "in ethics" and asked him to read a copy of the church's propaganda magazine, Freedom, which contained attacks on the credibility of numerous former church officials...
"The Freedom magazine had referred to Marty Rathbun having a blog. So I went to the Internet, finally," he says. A loyal (if often complaining) member of Scientology for more than 30 years, Lemberger had never explored the 'Net to see what people were saying about his church -- and he knew nothing about the crisis it was in.

But now he absorbed as much he could stand.

"I found out that the world has changed," he says.

Besides the controversies, he also realized that there was a burgeoning independence movement that takes several different forms in Europe and the US. And these groups are using the same materials as the official church, but without the layers of control and constant demands for large donations.

"Everything now is on the Internet. All the Bridge, all the training Bridge, the auditing Bridge. There's no more monopoly," Lemberger says. He was stunned to realize that L. Ron Hubbard's entire "Bridge to Total Freedom" is now available to anyone with a computer and Internet access.

Dani said he came to the realization that his entire mission could continue to honor Hubbard's ideas, but break away from the church itself.

"My people in the mission know Tami, they know me. All of our staff are well paid. All of our customers get great service. I manage it my way," he says. "I took my staff together and told them about Debbie Cook. I encouraged them all to do their own research."

He even cited a Hubbard policy to justify their research project.

"As the church says, 'Think for yourself'," his wife Tami adds.

So the people at his mission began reading stories about Scientology on the Internet

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... berger.php

My comment: The Village Voice's lively and intelligent readers point out that Dani's claims of repeated guillotine executions conflict with the guillotine only being invented in the 1700's. They also point out that Dani says the OT III Xenu story is a myth, yet Dani still peddles auditing of body thetans based on this Xenu "myth."


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 Post subject: Re: V V: An entire Israeli mission defects
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:08 pm 
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My in-laws told me that the xenu story was also a myth and that mentioning it was insulting...and laughable. When I asked if they believed in BTs, they said yes, it was a fact discovered by eLwRONg. I then asked what helped us, they replied auditing of course. When I asked where these Bts came from they looked dumbfounded to which I replied that the auditing of BTs was the basic dogma of their church, so how could the origin story be either insulting or laughable.? I then told them that their church fought to keep the xenu story out of court not because it was untrue but rather because it was their trade secret. They just quieted down and left the room.


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 Post subject: Re: V V: An entire Israeli mission defects
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:39 pm 
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They may be happier as their own group, rather than becoming part of a larger association like Freezone or Marty's group. No "Hubbard tech" auditor association can either enforce conformity or demand royalties besides CoS. The most they may get is a certificate showing they are swell auditors, and they already know that. The California Association of Dianetics Auditors (CADA) was the first and last independent attempt at getting an original stamp of approval, but CADA got taken over by CoS. Sources on page 5 of CoS Organization Charts, viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31561&start=60


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 Post subject: Re: V V: An entire Israeli mission defects
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:47 am 
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This is funny. As far as I know all Israeli citizens are one way or another involved in the Israeli army and have military training to a very high level.

This organized mass defection from the so called church is, according to L. Ron Hubbard, a high crime. Under the circumstances of a mission going rebel I would expect a program to be written immediately and a mission of sea org staff members dispatched post haste to sort out the defection and restore the mission to the control of the main organization.

But the sea org staff members will be going to an Israeli org where the fifty staff members all have hand to hand combat skills as well as other military training.

Mission Impossible. Oh, yeah!

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 Post subject: Re: V V: An entire Israeli mission defects
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:14 am 
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Whether CoS can seize the building depends on the mission holder contract and on Israeli law. If Dani's family owned the building outright, there's nothing CoS can do except sue for copyright and trademark violations.


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 Post subject: Re: V V: An entire Israeli mission defects
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:21 pm 
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“Assignment of Treason Condition – David Miscavige,” encourages readers to e-mail this to members, talks about how Dani and wife were handed a declare when they landed in Tampa, and then links to the "Assignment of Treason" itself.
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One point is, "The staff would be well paid because they were productive." Org staffs are paid dismal salaries. In most countries this is illegal since current staff salaries are well below legal minimum wages.
The orgs are burdened by too many staff relative to public on lines.
Untrained public are recruited to staff and are then a strain on the few org staff that are producing. The few upstat staff are over-worked and underexchanged and ultimately leave staff. Those who stay are forced to "moonlight" or live off of spouses and relatives. This makes us all look bad, parasitical, criminal.

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... miscavige/


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