Ortega's Underground Bunker

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:33 pm

This Nation of Islam article summarizes wittily, links to other articles, and invites comments. Among the good ones:

jonathan.nyc:
Farrakhan has a weird set of sci-fi beliefs about the origin of the world, as does Scientology. But those are two different weird stories. It’s not possible to believe both are true.
richardgrant:
Louis is entranced by the notion of “power.” David is entranced by body-counts. There may be little more to it than that.
John P. Capitalist:
I keep thinking of some sort of comedy where two inept con men spend the entire movie trying to con each other, only to find out that they’re both completely inept, perhaps conned by some third person
The Scientology-Nation of Islam Alliance: Sideshow or Armageddon? Oct. 27, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... rmageddon/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:01 pm

All intensives at the IAS membership donation rate of $7,800
and other price increases.

Reader comment from John P. Capitalist:
FleaWinds: They’re raising prices 40% on the sumptuous 4-to-a-room-designed-for-two...They’re saying that in the last four years, operating costs are up 500%. I wonder exactly which costs are up 500%.
They bought the already obsolete ship almost 30 years ago for a few million in cash, not much above scrap value. So there’s no depreciation on the ship to pay off... they use slave labor...they gull people into a month-long “Competence and Leadership” course to pay the big bucks to learn how to hack asbestos out of the walls, pull up floor tile and paint things. ...the Freewinds... orbits between ... three islands which are about 30 miles apart. So fuel costs can’t be much.
...So the only possible explanation for the need to raise prices 40%... is that they are not getting enough passengers to cover the cost of running the old rust bucket.
Sunday Funnies: Scientology Price Increase! Oct. 28, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... y-funnies/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:44 am

Be sure that Underground Bunker is well above sea level, Tony, if there's a storm surge in Manhattan from Hurricane Sandy.
Will the DC Org use their OT abilities to push the storm away from DC, only to have it hit the Celebrity Centre in NY?

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:20 pm

Those tireless researchers over at WhyWeProtest.net reached a milestone last night. They scour the Internet looking for evidence of people who have dared to leave the Church of Scientology and speak out publicly about it... Last night, they added the 2000th person... (link) https://whyweprotest.net/wiki/Former_Ch ... spoken_out
List of People Who Have Left Scientology and Spoken Out Reaches 2,000 Names, Oct. 29, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... 000-names/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:52 pm

Another Scientology Victory: Photos of Marc Headley’s Roof Being Repaired! Oct 30, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... -repaired/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:29 pm

Tony reports on Narconon TV news report, Inside Narconon, CEO Answers Accusations About Deaths In Rehab http://www.news9.com/story/19958557/exc ... s-in-rehab

Like us, Tony is anticipating the Nov 1 Narconon report by Nathan Baca.
It’s Halloween, and Narconon is Very, Very Afraid, Oct 31, 2012
http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... ry-afraid/

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Post by Don Carlo » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:59 pm

Tony reports on Nathan Baca's Nov. 1 Narconon report:
Baca tells us the station also heard directly from the Church of Scientology.

“The sent an e-mail to my boss this morning. Scientology’s main public relations department sent an e-mail to my boss blasting me and my investigation from 2009, saying in effect, we’d like to quash the story,” Baca said.

Baca said he responded, asking if Scientology was officially speaking for Narconon.

“I got no response,” he said.
Nathan Baca: Scientology’s Nevada Drug Rehab Program Is Completely Unregulated, Nov. 1, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... than-baca/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:20 am

Lisa McPherson relatives' lawyer Ken
Dandar found himself in a bizarre legal Catch-22 several years later: a federal judge ordered him to continue representing a client in a lawsuit against the church at the same time that a state judge was telling him he had to quit that case or be sanctioned up to $1,000 a day. Dandar ultimately extricated himself from that mess, but Scientology is now asking the state court for $1 million in court fees, Dandar alleges.

So now he’s gone back to the federal court system to ask for relief: stop the Church of Scientology, he’s asking, which is trying to bury him for doing his job.
Ken Dandar Files Federal Lawsuit, Says Scientology Using State Courts to Cause Him “Utter Financial Ruin,” Nov. 1, 2012,
http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... tter-ruin/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:43 pm

Hubbard dissed Jews and Catholics!
Ashore, casually ask if anyone has “seen a Jewish looking fellow around saying bad things about people who help their country.”
...
The enemy must not be permitted to cut income off from our local friends because Jewish international bankers hate anyone who help such a country as this.
...
So, how to be mystified by it all and afraid — remain unhatted.

But leave that to the old Catholic Church. They wanted everyone ignorant. So they would be terrified and blind?
Scientology on the High Seas: The Final Dispatches, Nov. 2, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... ispatches/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by 'Alert' » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:32 am

Thanks for this thread Don. Ortega's underground bunker doesnt yet show up in my newsfeed like VV did.
"If anyone talks about a "road to Freedom" he is talking about a linear line. This, then, must have boundaries. If there are boundaries there is no freedom." - Dianetics 55

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:19 pm

Lori Hodgson:
You both know the reasons why I resigned from the church. It was mainly because of the way you were heavily recruited to be on staff or in the Sea Org at only 15 years old. I wanted you both to stay in school and get a full education. I fought with the church because my parental rights were being violated.
Scientology’s Policy of “Disconnection”: A Mother’s Open Letter to Her Children, Nov. 3, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... doned-her/

You're welcome, Alert.

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:55 pm

Scientology Sunday Funnies: The Road to Clear! Nov. 4, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... funnies-5/
Flashy photos for an IAS Party on Nov 2 at the Celebrity Centre,
A promo for a combination writing workshop, "Life Improvement Course, and refreshments for only $75. The author teaching the course only reveals her pen name
ASHO newsletter with two graduates holding up their completion certificates... Which proves they are clear... TWO WHOLE PEOPLE.
An Australian IAS event invitation with LOTS! and LOTS! of exclamation points! !
Bob G's comment:
“the Bridge to Freedom has actually become a drawbridge to the Dark Lord’s castle”, and once one goes in there it is exceedingly difficult to get out.

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:27 pm

Video mockery at Dianetics Read Aloud: Let Ron’s Wisdom Wash Over You, Nov. 5, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... -over-you/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:16 am

Scientology and the Presidential Election, Nov. 6, 2012
http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... -election/

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Re: Ortega's Underground Bunker

Post by Don Carlo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:13 am

FOUR MORE YEARS!…Of Inaction On Scientology? Nov. 7, 2012, http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/ ... ientology/

Tony brings up the FBI dropping its investigation, and asks for comments. One person mentioned that if Hillary Clinton resigns as Secretary of State, that might make more room for the US government to enforce laws against scientology. Hillary's husband former president Bill Clinton was reluctant to crack down on Scientology, and under Hillary, the US still criticizes other countries that crack down on CoS. So, with the Clintons out of the picture, and CoS much weaker, maybe the new Secretary of State will be bolder.

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