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Looks like the cult is getting set to spend colossal sums of their members donations on covering up impending bad news....

Scientologists plan Aussie ad blitz
mUmBRELLA 2rd Feb 2010
http://mumbrella.com.au/scientologists- ... litz-16988

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The Church of Scientology is planning its first above-the-line advertising push in Australia in a bid to turn around its public image.
TV and cinema are among the media being contemplated.

A spokesman for the controversial organisation confirmed to Mumbrella that the campaign is being planned but said it was dependent on the campaign receiving funding from the US. She referred inquiries to Sydney agency Frontier Media, which declined to comment.

The Church of Scientology’s most high-profile celebrity followers including Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

In November, independent Senator Nick Xenophon accused the Church of being a “criminal organisation”.Prime Minster Kevin Rudd also told the Herald Sun “I share some of those concerns”,but has reserved further judgement pending the review of material provided by Senator Xenophon.

At the time the Church released a statement in response to Xenophon. “Senator Xenophon’s attempt to marginalise Scientologists by saying that they should not be believed, is fascistic and violates freedom of speech and the right to religious beliefs,” the statement said.

Gerry Armstrong, another vocal critic of the Church and a former member, is travelling to Australia to support Senator Xenophon’s campaign for an inquiry into the Church.

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There's rumour that the TodayTonight programme will be doing a scientology item, Thursday evening 4th Feb (Oz time).
ref: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media ... 4-a-60848/

Also related, a media report on the attempted AVO by a cultie on Aaron Saxton...........
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=32072
EDIT: TV news item was shown. Awesome. Go to the link to see it in that media thread. The report also includes comments from Xenophon himself, regarding Fair Game.

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Scientology boss in Australia, Vicky Dunstan, has had her repsonse (to Senator Nick Xenophon's speech under parliamentary privilege) included in the Hansard records (the minutes of parliamentary debate). This is due to some rule that if a person is named specifically or tacitly in such circumstances then they may be allowed to have a response included. This was debated and they ruled that the response should now be included in the records.

Here is that report and Dunstan's included response:
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/ ... report.pdf

Plaintext version of the Dunstan response:
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Appendix One
Response by Vicki Dunstan on behalf of the Church of Scientology
Pursuant to Resolution 5(7)(b) of the Senate of 25 February 1988
Reply to comments by Senator Nicholas Xenophon in the Senate –
17 November 2009

Pursuant to resolution 5 (7) (b) of the Senate of 25 February 1988 I make this
submission on behalf of the Church of Scientology regarding comments made in the
Senate concerning the Church by Senator Nicholas Xenophon on the evening of 17
November 2009.

At the outset, the Church of Scientology notes that Senator Xenophon’s statements
under Parliamentary privilege were false and unsubstantiated, and that they were
apparently designed to adversely affect the reputation of the Church of Scientology, its
staff and their association with others.

The Church of Scientology is a worldwide religion comprising over 8,000 Churches,
Missions and affiliated groups, made up of millions of members in 165 countries of
the world. The Church and its members are globally recognized sponsors of successful
humanitarian programs addressing societal ills such as drug abuse, illiteracy, human
rights and intolerance.

The Church’s more than 200,000 Volunteer Ministers are an active force in disaster
relief efforts worldwide. Scientologists volunteer their help, both in times of major
disasters, such as the Victoria Fires, and in times of more personal disasters that befall
all of us. The Church’s bright yellow Volunteer Minister tents can be seen in such
diverse locations as the Sydney Metropolitan area to Alice Springs. When the
devastating Asian Tsunami of 2004 struck, more than 500 Volunteer Ministers worked
for six months in India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Thailand. When huge bushfires
occurred in the Blue Mountains in January 2002, our Volunteer Ministers worked 24/7
assisting community authorities and helping victims and disaster relief workers cope
with the trauma associated with such a major event.

This amount of growth in a religion only a little beyond its first half-century of
existence has only been possible through the dedicated support of members of the
religion. Scientologists sincerely believe in their religion and they are active
supporters of the Church and it humanitarian initiatives.

Courts and governmental agencies in the United States, Europe and other countries
have repeatedly acknowledged Scientology’s religiosity. In October 1983, The High
Court of Australia in Church of the New Faith v. Commissioner of Payroll Tax (Vic)
recognised Scientology.
That decision adopted criteria for determining religiosity that have since become
generally accepted by courts and religious scholars around the world:
(1) a belief in some Ultimate Reality, such as the Supreme or eternal truth
that transcends the here and now of the secular world;
(2) religious practices directed toward understanding, attaining or
communing with this Ultimate Reality; and
(3) a community of believers who join together in pursuing this Ultimate
Reality. These criteria have become the standards for determining religiosity
throughout Australia and New Zealand.

In April of 2007, and again in October 2009, the European Court of Human Rights
held that Scientology churches must be afforded the same rights as any other religious
institutions throughout the 47 countries that comprise the European Community.
Senator Xenophon’s 17 November presentation misrepresented Scientology’s true
status while ignoring the above decisions and acknowledgements. Instead, the
presentation focused on unfounded and unproven allegations from overseas newspaper
reports and other sources whose accuracy cannot be confirmed and in many instances
have been proven as false.

The bulk of the Senator’s presentation relied on letters containing unsubstantiated
allegations made by a few disgruntled apostates. No religion can possibly satisfy
everyone, and the Church regrets that these individuals did not find what they were
seeking in Scientology.

Such bitter testimonials have at their root a common phenomenon attributable to
apostates of any faith. An essay on apostates by Lonnie D. Kliever, Ph.D., Professor of
Religious Studies Southern Methodist University, describes it as follows:

“There is no denying that these dedicated and diehard opponents of the new
religions present a distorted view of the new religions to the public, the
academy, and the courts by virtue of their ready availability and eagerness to
testify against their former religious associations and activities.
“Such apostates always act out of a scenario that vindicates themselves by
shifting responsibility for their actions to the religious group. Indeed, the
various brainwashing scenarios so often invoked against the new religious
movements have been overwhelmingly repudiated by social scientists and
religion scholars as nothing more than calculated efforts to discredit the beliefs
and practices of unconventional religions in the eyes of governmental agencies
and public opinion.
“Such apostates can hardly be regarded as reliable informants by responsible
journalists, scholars, or jurists. Even the accounts of voluntary defectors with
no grudges to bear must be used with caution since they interpret their past
religious experience in the light of present efforts to re-establish their own selfidentity
and self-esteem.”


Many of the apostates upon whom the Senator relied have gone even further and have
publicly supported the cyber-hate group, Anonymous, a group whose members
boasted about their unlawful attacks on the Australian Prime Minister’s website earlier
this year, and whose members have been prosecuted criminally in the United States for
illegal attacks on Church of Scientology websites.

The Church has no desire to air in public the personal experiences of members of the
Scientology religion–even former members such as these who have chosen to attack
their previous faith. That said, nevertheless, the Church vigorously denies the claims
of these former members. Had Senator Xenophon sought confirmation of any of the
allegations with the Church, we would have provided to him factual documents,
including coronial reports, refuting them and endorsements of the Church by numerous
community groups and countless individuals, including former members.

For example, Kevin Mackey stated publicly that he attributed his success in life to
what he learned from Scientology. Dean and Anna Detheridge similarly voiced
positive opinions of their Scientology experiences. Such positive statements are
consistent with the experiences of millions of other parishioners of Scientology. That
these people now hold a different view is entirely their own personal affair.

The allegations of Aaron Saxton and Carmel Underwood regarding forced abortions
are untrue. The Church of Scientology does not counsel expectant mothers to have
abortions and has never forced anyone to obtain one. Sworn statements have been
obtained from numerous female Church staff members who served during the same
time as Carmel Underwood, all of whom became pregnant while on staff, some as
many as three times, and all of whom state that they were never encouraged, pressured
or even suggested to have an abortion. They all state that they were well cared for and
given time off as needed to care for their children, as was Carmel Underwood.

The Church is very reluctant to bring the Schofield family more pain than they have
already suffered over the loss of two of their children, but public records in both cases
starkly contradict Senator Xenophon's claims. Both deaths were determined by the
proper authorities to have been tragic accidents. Moreover, sworn witness statements
confirm that, in the case of the first daughter, Paul Schofield was himself looking after
his child and was a short distance from her when she accidentally fell down a flight of
stairs at the Church and was mortally injured.

In the case of his second daughter, she was in the full care of both parents at home
when she ingested over 30 tablets of a potassium chloride supplement called "Slow K"
that her parents kept in the home within reach of the child. Potassium chloride is not
part of any Church program or service in Australia or internationally. The subsequent
coronial inquest found that the parents' misunderstanding of the risks accompanying an
overdose of "Slow K" led to the girl's death and recommended greater precision in the
product's warning label. In both instances, the Church assisted the family during this
time of great loss.

Aaron Saxton and Peta O'Brien claim they were denied medical treatment. They both
know it is a fact that all Scientologists are not only encouraged to seek medical
attention to address physical ailments and injuries; they are required to do so by
Church policy. And without going into the nature of their medical problems, records
indicate that both of them received extensive and regular medical treatment while on
Church staff.

Aaron Saxton went so far as to falsely allege he participated in a "cover up" of
financial misdealing by an individual whom Church executives not only dismissed
from staff when they discovered his activities but diligently reported to the police and
successfully prosecuted.

All of these matters are the subject of documented evidence and sworn witness
statements that the Church was prepared to provide to Senator Xenophon had he asked
for them. Yet, Senator Xenophon never responded to the Church's request for a
meeting with him prior to his parliamentary speech on 17 November 2009.

We regret that this matter has come before the Senate in this manner and seek only to
correct the record.

Thank you for your consideration.


This is the "Reverend" Vicky Dunstan's personal response:
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A fact-checking operaton has now started on the WWP wiki for a rebuttal...
http://wiki.whyweprotest.net/Fact-check ... r_Xenophon
See also this thread:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/318-sena ... ion-60896/
Please help out if you can.

edit:
Crikey reports critically on the senate's decision to allow scientology's repsonse to senator Xenophon into the records (rather it reports more critically on the contents of the cult's idiotic attack-repsonse).
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/18/the ... ping-hand/

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Oh so classy. Must be one of the special courses taught by KA...flipping the bird tech.


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Church challenged to inquiry
Sydney Morning Herald 6th Feb 2010
http://www.smh.com.au/national/church-c ... -niql.html
also... Brisbane Times:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... -niql.html

snippets...
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THE independent senator Nick Xenophon has challenged the Church of Scientology to agree to a Senate inquiry after the church succeeded in having Hansard altered to include its response to his attack on its activities.

[...]

The Senate Privileges Committee refused to allow a second Scientology document, enclosing more material about the allegations of forced abortions and financial misdealings, to be recorded.

Senator Xenophon said the committee had made it very clear that it had not made any judgment on the truth of the reply by the church's Australian president, Reverend Vicki Dunstan, when allowing it.

''I challenge the Church of Scientology - if they are so confident of their position, they should welcome a Senate inquiry where they can give evidence,'' Senator Xenophon said yesterday.

[more in article link]

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Crikey reports critically on the senate's decision to allow scientology's repsonse to senator Xenophon into the records (rather it reports more critically on the contents of the cult's idiotic attack-repsonse).
The Senate lends Scientology a helping hand
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/18/the ... ping-hand/

Crikey follows up that link-filled critical article with this question.....

Why exactly are we paying for this cult?
Crikey 19th Feb 2010
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/19/crikey-says-157/

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Crikey, Letters section, Cyrus Brooks responds (22nd Feb 2010)
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/22/gar ... ic-debate/
General baawwing. Plus he mentions "helping in the streets with drug 'prevention' and 'education'" but of course doesn't mention that a few weeks ago be broke the law by operating his leafleting bullshit outside of the issued street permit. He repeatedly did it knowlingly even after it was pointed out to him by the homo sapien protesters and didn't stop until confronted by official enforcement. It seems relatively trivial but this goes to the heart of the utter arrogance of organised scientology in that they think they can do what they like as a matter of routine and it is amazing that they do these things whilst the critical spotlight is on them.
Also, what Brooks doesn't mention in his letter is that much of their supplementary "dead agent" material and self-congraulatory propaganda bullshit was not entered into the senate records as a right of reply. Their over-the-top "Always attack - never defend" attitude is tired, worn out and not really the thing one should be doing whilst trying to feign being persecuted. Obvious stupidity is obvious.
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Get em Aussie senate. The more these cultist speak out, the worse they look! I have had nightmares for weeks of the good Rev. Vicky!


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Scientology a punching bag
eternity.biz 23rd February 2010
http://eternity.biz/news/scientology_a_ ... 002230100/

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2UE Newstalk radio:
Xenophon calls scientology inquiry
10th March 2010
http://www.2ue.com.au/

Direct MP3 download: http://media.mytalk.com.au/2ue/audio/090310xenophon.mp3

Related thread on the 4Corners Documentary: Scientology: The Ex-files.
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=32199


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More news articles today:

The field of mental health has entered the fray.....

Also reported here....
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=32223


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Psychiatry professor Patrick McGorry,
2010 Australian of the Year,
at the Orygen Youth Health building in Melbourne.
Picture: Stuart McEvoy Source: The Australian


Scientology putting lives at risk, says Australian of the Year Pat McGorry
Duplicate AAP fed reports...
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/sc ... 5838939201
.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nation ... public_rss
.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/691 ... y-inquiry/
.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/b ... public_rss
.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sciento ... public_rss
.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/scien ... -pwmb.html
.
http://www.independentweekly.com.au/new ... px?src=rss
.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1210 ... tal-health
.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -pwd8.html
.
6 minutes .com "Intersting stuff for doctors today" (links to AAP report):
http://www.6minutes.com.au/articles/z1/ ... ?id=513130

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(This link includes a POLL. "Do we need a Senate inquiry into Scientology?").....
http://www.news.com.au/national/sciento ... 5838942141

Now the AAP story has crossed to the ANI (South Asian newsfeed)...
Scientology views putting lives at risk, says Australian of the Year
http://sify.com/news/scientology-views- ... iihfa.html

Scientology 'putting lives at risk'
Yahoo/7News / ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 841369.htm
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/australian ... ientology/


Quote:
Professor McGorry says he and his two colleagues are just the tip of a very deep iceberg.

"The whole mental health field would support this call for an inquiry and it's overdue in fact, in my opinion," he said.

Professor McGorry met Senator Nick Xenophon yesterday.


It's on like donkey kong.

Australian of the Year supports Senate Scientology probe
ABC AM Ashow
Transcript: http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2010/s2841440.htm
Direct MP3 audio link: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/ ... cgorry.mp3
Direct WMA audio link: mms://media4.abc.net.au/winlibrary/audi ... cgorry.wma

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About Professor Patrick McGorry :
YouTube- (Part 1) Professor Patrick McGorry - Australian of the Year 2010
YouTube- (Part 2) Professor Patrick McGorry - Australian of the Year 2010

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Australian Senate for great justice! Do it!
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/318-sena ... ice-62676/

Anonymous wrote:
The four key people who need to receive our emails and phone calls now are:


  1. Leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott - Tony.Abbott.MP@aph.gov.au
    Tel: (02) 6277 4022
    Fax: (02) 6277 8562
  2. Leader of the Nationals in the Senate, Senator Barnaby Joyce - senator.joyce@aph.gov.au
    Phone: (02) 6277 3244
    Fax: (02) 6277 3246
  3. Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd (online form) - Email your Prime Minister | Prime Minister of Australia
    Tel: (02) 6277 7700
    Fax: (02) 6273 4100
  4. Leader of the Government in the Senate, Senator Chris Evans - senator.evans@aph.gov.au
    Phone: (02) 6277 7860
    Fax: (02) 6273 4144

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If you've already contacted the key people and you want to contact more of the Senators their phone numbers are here - Parliament of Australia:Senate:Senators:Senators' Parliament House and State/Territory addresses, phone and fax numbers

emails can be accessed through this page (I think we had a full list somewhere a while ago)
Parliament of Australia:Senate:Senators:Homepages by Political Party


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This is what we need a little more of. Dragging the celebrities names into the same headlines as scientology + abuse + forced abortions + family disconnections etc.
Make the newsmedia ask them: WHY?

Tom Cruise’s Religion in the Spotlight Over Forced Abortion Allegations
LifeSiteNews.com 10th March 2010
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/mar/10031010.html

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CANBERRA, Australia, March 10, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Church of Scientology, popularly known as the church to which Hollywood superstar Tom Cruise belongs, is facing increased scrutiny in Australia and elsewhere over allegations that the organization has abused members and even coerced women psychologically into having abortions.

Australia’s Senate plans to vote soon on whether to conduct an inquiry into the allegations of the church’s abuse of Australians, and especially of members of the Sea Organization, Scientology’s elite religious group, whose members sign a billion-year contract to serve Scientology for millions of lifetimes.

Senator Nick Xenophon fired the first salvo in this latest battle with Scientology in November 2009, after receiving a letter from former church members relating their experiences of the church sanctioning forced abortions, assault, imprisonment, concealing sexual abuse, embezzling funds and performing blackmail.

Xenophon pressed the issue relentlessly, invoking parliamentary privilege to demand the Senate investigate. Xenophon quoted former Scientologist Aaron Saxton, who stated he had participated in bullying Sea Org members into having abortions.

“If they refused, they faced demotion and hard labour. Aaron says one staff member used a coat hanger and self-aborted her child for fear of punishment," said Xenophon in a speech to parliament.

The Australian senator’s battle has fueled debate on whether Scientology should be allowed to keep its tax-exempt status. At the same time more witnesses and ex-members of Scientology have stepped forward with similar allegations against the church, putting more pressure on Australia’s government to investigate and take action.

...continued in article link...


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Rudd, Abbott 'running scared on Scientology'
ABC News 11th March 2010
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 842893.htm
also, the less than explanatory AAP report....
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 5839546671
Another AAP from the Australian...
Xenophon's Scientology inquiry defeated in Senate
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politic ... 5839574899

Posted by TinyDancer on WWP....
Quote:
I spoke with Nick Xenophon's senior policy adviser just now. The "No" vote is confirmed. Nick will continue to put the inquiry to the vote in the senate as long as is needed for it to go through.

He's a persistent bastard.


Aust govt "ignoring" Scientology abuse
TVNZ 11th March 2010
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/aust-govt- ... se-3405978

>> YouTube- Today Tonight - Scientology Inquiry Pressure as ALP and Coalition turn blind eye to abuses <<

Paul Schofield, posting on WWP, wrote:
I'm not sure why the glum faces here - this is a minor setback in the whole scheme of things.

This issue won't go away and there were plans afoot as soon as this was announced this morning - plans you'll see come into being in the next week.

This will create even more media about the cult, and very little of that will be "cult-friendly."

I did an interview with Today/Tonight earlier today (part of which Bryan Seymour used tonight) and, as I was leaving, one of the journo.s I was chatting with reminded me "this is an election year" and went on to say that the pollies better listen.

The mood throughout the media is that something needs to be done about the cult. The mood in every person I speak to is something needs to be done about the cult. The politicians will change when they finally realize that it could well be made an election issue if they don't do something about the cult.

This minor setback is just one of those things that reminds us why
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Call for inquiry voted down
SMH 12th March 2010
http://www.smh.com.au/national/call-for ... -q1lg.html

Xenophon vow on Scientology probe
The Age 12th Match 2010
http://www.theage.com.au/national/xenop ... -q1pv.html

Rudd leaves Scientology alone
Street Corner 12th March 2010
http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/sho ... &mycomm=WC

ABC News (Video) 11th March 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOK0t-8B7OQ


Senator xenophon - abc radio 11th March 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-S-ga5A680

Biting headline and even more biting and cynical article content in the Brisbane Times today (12th March). It echos what Paul Schofield was saying about the mood in the newsmedia indicating that "someting needs to be done about it". The government and opposition are going to get battered over the head with this from all angles.
Senate in alignment with the planet Ron
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion ... -q1n1.html



Official Hansard, minutes of yesterdays senate (starts at pdf page 30)...
http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/senate/da ... 110310.pdf
Alternative transcript of the relevant section posted on WWP....
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/318-sena ... 0-a-62947/

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LOL Sponge - crikey you're quick!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/11/2842893.htm

Independent Senator Nick Xenophon has slammed the major parties for blocking his moves for an inquiry into the Church of Scientology.

Senator Xenophon has been calling for a full inquiry into the church since revealing claims of forced abortions and other abuses in Parliament last year.

Today he accused Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of hiding behind process and vowed to continue to fight for further examination of Scientology in Australia.

"There is a certain cowardice in turning your backs on people who ask for help and ask just to be heard," he said.

"I ask Kevin Rudd and [Opposition Leader] Tony Abbott, what is it about forced abortions you do not want to know about?

"What is it about false imprisonment that you don't want to know about? I will not turn my backs on the victims of Scientology. I will not let this lie. This issue will not go away."

Today Senator Xenophon moved for a broader inquiry into the tax-free status of religions when it was clear he did not have the numbers for his original Scientology probe.

However, the Opposition and Government blocked the motion.

Senator Xenophon said the Government told him it could not support the tax inquiry because it could pre-empt the still-to-be released Henry Tax Review.

Special Minister of State Joe Ludwig says the tax-free status of various organisations has already been extensively covered by other inquiries and another is not needed.

"Based on this detailed and comprehensive record of an analysis and in light of two current review reports before the Government, we will not be supporting this motion today," he said.

The Greens supported the motion but that was not enough to get it passed.

"I do object and I know many other Australians object to millions of dollars being siphoned off from the public purse because we haven't refined our ability to say a dangerous cult ought not be getting that money," Greens leader Bob Brown said.

Liberal Senator Eric Abetz expressed sympathy for anyone who had suffered under the Church of Scientology but said the Senate was not the right place to hear their stories.

He also questioned whether a Senate inquiry would stop people being "brainwashed" by various organisations.

"Whilst the motion on the face of it looks relatively innocuous, talks about a general inquiry into matters tax and charitable status generally, there is no doubt from the speeches of Senators Xenophon and Brown ... that it would not just be a general discussion of matters taxation," he said.

ABC's Four Corners program also this week broadcast allegations from ex-members of Scientology of forced abortions, pressure to work extreme hours and being forced to hand over large sums of money.

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Btw, it's worth checking the link rather than relying totally on copypasted info because the articles have a habit of being updated. Also, more video links may appear in that ABC article web page.

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I am sending e-mails to the leaders of BOTH major political parties ( Rudd, Abbott, and whoever the nationl party leader is these days) plus the retrosepective leaders in the Senate, advising them that because they have abandoned the victims of Scientology, I will be asking all and sundry to vote at the next election in favour only of those Senate candidates that reply that they will support an investigation of $cientology.

This means that I am suggesting that people vote for candidates such as the Greens, who supported Xenophon, or any independent that states that they would support a co$ inquiry.

Do NOT vote for any of the labor, Liberal, or National party "wimp" candidates who obviously do not care for anyone other than themselves or their mates.

Sounds futile and silly? not likely. Some Senators and Ministers only got elected by a handful of votes in some electorates.

It would only take a small movement away from the major parties to cause a ripple through the ranks.
Look what happened to Howard last election.

If you are a voter in a "Marginal " electorate ( I am! :wink: ) ... let them know their tenure of that position is even less secure.

Anonymous, ..... want to spread the word?


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