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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:47 am

*BUMP* Nothing new except the name of tomorrow's presiding magistrate. Still no documented confirmation that there will be an actual physical appearance by Janice Wendy Eastgate Meyer herself.

DOWNING CENTRE (143-147 LIVERPOOL ST SYDNEY)
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Defendant MEYER, JANICE
Court No. Crt 5.2 Downing Ctr
Time 09:30 AM
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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:46 am

A brief summary from TinyDancer on whyweprotest.net about today's hearing 2nd Feb 2012...
ref: https://whyweprotest.net/community/thre ... st-2041044
TinyDancer, posting on WWP wrote:
Okay, so Jan was not present, even though the last order was that she be present and there was no application made to allow her not to be present.

Police prosecutor sought a brief adjournment. Something about bringing another charge! Didn't know enough to be of real assistance to the court.

Defence objected, saying they believed it was just another witness being added to the brief and they are ready to go ahead to trial and want no further delays.

Adjourned to Tuesday 7 Feb and crown prosecutor expected to attend to explain to the court where things are at.

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:45 am

http://searchcourtlists.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/scm/search

List No: 42
Date: 07 Feb
Time: 09:30
Listing type: Mention (Police)
Juristiction: Criminal
Court: Local
Presiding Officer: Local Court Deputy Chief Magistrate Culver
Location: Downing Centre
Court Room: Crt 5.2 Downing Ctr
Case Title: R v JANICE MEYER
Case Number: 201100178789

A different magistrate to the previous hearing.
Also a different court room, crt 5.2 (all previous ones have been in crt 4.4).

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:38 am

TinyDancer, posting on WWP wrote:Just had a phone call from the Sydney Anonycrew. Stay perched on the edge of your seats.


A second charge was laid against Jan Eastgate Meyer today.


Awaiting details (could take 24 hours ...)
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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:08 am

....more, just in, from the same WWP thread....
Zhent, posting on WWP wrote:POSTGAME REPORT - JANICE MEYER MENTION - DOWNING CENTRE 2012/02/07

Anonymous was on the scene early chilling with Bryan Seymour (ABC's Steve Cannane was also present) and waiting for Jan. Alas the planned enturbulation was not to be.

Jan was represented by some guy (name?) with a thick 2" binder, another guy sat behind him with another 2" binder on Jan ("Correspondence and Attendances"). It was quickly revealed that Jan Eastgate had NOT been excused from attendance, they had tried to have her removed but it failed. However despite this this there was no Jan, it was revealed she is still on bail in the USA!

Sadly the magistrate did not seem to take much offence to this, unless I am mistaken there should be some sort of large fine for her non-appearance.

Moving on from this the DPP (Coyle?) revealed an additional charge was laid against Jan THIS MORNING. In addition there is to be an amendment to Charge No. 1.

It was also revealed there had been delays with getting witnesses, in particular there are two witnesses who are suppose to be part of the Brief who have NOT BEEN LOCATED.

Jan's defence declined to enter a plea. They apparently have some uncertainty about the the Brief and the charges and evidence contained within. There was much talk about the 'Section 91', I do not understand what this is but it appears to unfinished/incomplete in the Brief (?). The Crown was tired of the constant delays with this and suggested the DPP and Defence sit down that very day to sort of what is happening with the Brief and amend the Section 91 to completion. I believe it is to be finished by Thursday so a hearing can be locked in.

So, all in all, progress is happening. It appears Scientology has tried to slow things down as much as they can with endless Section 91 timetables, but it appears it will be finished soon (today?). As noted Jan was NOT present and we are hoping there will be punishment for this. Only one Scientologist (OSA) was spotted in attendance.

We expect to hear the details of the second charge and other info soon.

Edit: I think this is the OSA guy on the right -
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Also, some pics from Zhent, of the crumbling Sydney "Ideal Org" today: viewtopic.php?p=432764#p432764

More hearing reports....
OneOneWasARacecar, posting on WWP wrote:An addendum:

Upon arrival, the front door of the court was empty of OSA and journalists. Bryan did have a camera crew handy, but I didn't see them. Inside, not see a single Scientologist. Bryan Seymour spotted the Scientology lawyer, but Jan and the entourage were not there. It was obvious from the outset that Jan was not going to show up. What was not obvious was how the judge would respond to this.

In a previous case in the same court another individual who had been remanded on bail also did not show up. The judge advised that if he did not show up next time she would issue a warrant for his arrest. Although the judge was pissed off Jan was not there, she did not extend the same courtesy.

I have to hand it to Bryan Seymour for his patience. He has shown up every time that Jan SHOULD have been there and was not. I have no idea why the judge was more pissed off with the other defendant than Jan. It may be the age of the charges, the fact she runs an overseas business...

Anyway, afterwards, we went for a victory troll. We visited the Sydney Org (the little one, not ANZO) and they are hiring. I would happily relay further details about the employment/volunteering/indentured servantry opportunity, however the Scientologist who was there would not answer any questions. He seemed incapable of confronting me. If you want to know more, you will need to contact them directly on (02) 9267 6772, although I hear the pay and conditions are pretty bad.

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:49 am

....and yet more......
TinyDancer, posting on WWP, wrote:MAJOR UPDATE

The matter has been set down for a 2 day committal hearing on 15 and 16 May 2012.

The matter has also be listed for mention on 24 April 2012 to confirm the above hearing. The defendant Meyer has been excused from attending on 24 April.

The Charges:

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A committal hearing is where the magistrate decides if there is enough evidence to go to trial.
froma defendants point of view, here the advantages/disadvantages: http://www.armstronglegal.com.au/web/pa ... o_court_17

The new 2nd charge is again perverting the course of justice (the coercing of Carmen Rainer's mother, Phoebe).
So, that's two counts of perverting the course of justice.

Here's a plaintext OCR of the dox scan:
DETAILS OF OFFENCE/S
Crimes Act 1900, Section 319
LAW PART CODE 1062
Do act with intent to pervert the course of justice

That Janice Meyer between 8 August 1985 and 14 August 1985 at Sydney in the State of New South Wales, coerced Carmen Rainer to provide false and misleading information, and to refrain from providing material information, to police and others, with intent to pervert the course of justice.

Amended by consent.
J.Culver [Magistrate]
7.2.12


COURT ATTENDANCE NOTICE (Court copy)

MEYER
H 45071043
002
Offence Ref No. 5270135
List No.__________

Listed before DOWNING CENTRE LOCAL Court on Tuesday 7th February, 2012 at 9:30 am

DEFENDANT DETAILS
MEYER, Janice
08/10/1953
2907/77-81 BERRY ST
NORTH SYDNEY, NSW, 2060
CNI Number : 773654655
Licence details :
Sex : Female
ATSI Status : Neither

PROSECUTOR (NSW POLICE) DETAILS
TO BE SERVED AT COURT
OIC (Prosecutor) : DET DAMIEN JOHNSON, Leichhardt
CAN Created by : DET TERRY KING, 2:46 pm 26/05/2011
CAN Accepted by : SGT DAVID WESTGARTH
Apprehended : 2:35 pm on 26/05/2011
Charging station : Surry Hills
Apprehended by : DET SCOTT KELLY (42595), Leichhardt

DETAILS OF OFFENCE/S
Crimes Act 1900, Section 319
Law Part Code 1062 - SI

Do act etc with intent to pervert the course of justice

between 11:00 am and 2:00 pm 10/05/2010 at Sydney

That Janice MEYER between 8 August 1985 and 14 August 1985 at Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, coerced Phoebe RAINER to provide false and misleading infomtation, and to refrain from providing material information, to police and others with intent to pervert the course of justice.

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:14 pm

ABC News report on the Feb 7th 2012 hearing

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC0N8wxgmn4
Uploaded by NewsOnABC on 7 Feb 2012
A senior international figure in the Church of Scientology has been charged in Sydney with a second offence relating to perverting the course of justice.
ABC lateline, Broadcast 7th Feb 2012
Transcript: http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/ ... 425397.htm
Also reported at Yahoo!/7News:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... g-justice/

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by subgenius » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:01 pm

It would appear that a slap on the wrist is out of the question.

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Don Carlo » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:27 pm

Could the Australian courts subpoena the head of CoS's Australia operations, and the acting head of CCHR Australia, and warn the execs they will be subpoena'd to appear within a week, to answer under penalty of perjury the following questions:
1. Is Jan in a location controlled by Sea Org, CCHR or any other CoS-linked organization, or any CoS worker?
2. If yes, will CoS send her back immediately to Australia?
3. If no, did she formally resign from Sea Org, CCHR, and-or all CoS-linked groups? Can they prove that, with a freeloader bill, etc.? Can they locate her? Who signed the paperwork to let her go? Was CoS Australia notified of this? Why didn't CoS Australia notify the courts she was resigning?
4. If no, did she escape and is hiding? Did any CoS-related person or group help her escape?
5. If no, have you heard any rumors or messages that she is dead?

With a week's notice, the execs should be able to answer those questions, and not play dumb on the witness stand.

If the exec still doesn't know or won't say, this becomes another black mark against CoS when considering its charity status in Australia.
The court needs to ask questions carefully given the CoS dogma of being above "wog law."
8. I remember asking one of the G.O. staff members about the fact that they were teaching me to lie under oath, and I was quoted the Scientology policy called "the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics," which simply means that whatever must be done to ensure the survival of the "third dynamic of Scientology" must be done regardless of the side effects. In other words, Scientology law is considered to be above and outside the jurisdiction of non-Scientology or "wog" law. Scientologists do not honor the Biblical oath, even though they may say that they do. This is TR-L in practice. [...]
18. I believe that most any ordinary Scientologist who was trained in Training Routine Lie would, upon command, lie in court, and would lie also about having been so trained. To put it simply, nothing such a Scientologist says in court can be believed or regarded to be true, as the Scientologist believes him or herself to be above, or outside the jurisdiction of "wog law." Such a Scientologist will not honor the Biblical oath because it has no meaning to him/her.*
To a Scientologist, Scientology is the elite organization on this planet, superior to all other earth organizations. The Scientology system of ethics, based on the "greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics," is therefore superior to any system of "wog" law.
Transgressions of "wog" law necessary to further the ends of Scientology are sanctioned on the basis of the "greatest good." In this way, lying, stealing, burgling and a host of other crimes become justified as means to the end of saving mankind.
Shielded by this philosophy, Scientologists have, over the years, been involved in a staggering array of crimes most unbecoming to members of a church.
It is a fact that Scientologists, particularly members of the G.O., are trained to lie. In a policy called Intelligence Specialist Training Routine -- TR-L (which stands for Training Routine Lie), the student is trained "to outflow false data effectively."
In the drill, the student has to tell a lie, which is then challenged by a coach, who works with the student until the student becomes able to "lie facily."
The ability to lie convincingly is used by the Scientologist in a variety of situations, including the giving of courtroom testimony. A Scientologist feels no obligation to be truthful in a "wog" court, even under oath. Again, this is because the Scientologist is operating under a higher law, that of the "greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics. **
* Affidavit of Margery Wakefield (23 June 1993)
** Wakefield, Margery (1991). Understanding Scientology. Chapter 12: OSA (Office of Special Affairs) -- The Secret CIA of Scientology
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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by 'Alert' » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:01 pm

Don Carlo wrote:Could the Australian courts subpoena the head of CoS's Australia operations,

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Not only could a court do that, if other agencies of the federal pohpoh type get involved-then people can be sent to jail for failure to co-operate. The latter is now happening with drive-by shootings with witnesses/victims refusing to co-operate with N.S.W Police.


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Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:28 pm

^ :proud:

Scientology Headaches: Another Felony Count for Exec; Anonymous Anniversary Saturday
by Tony Ortega, Village Voice. 7th Feb 2012
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... gy_hea.php
There's so much happening in the world of Scientology watching right now, we can hardly keep up with it all. Most of our attention is being taken up with the Debbie Cook lawsuit and its big hearing on Thursday -- we're going to have more on that tomorrow morning. But for now, more big developments happening around the world, and a Saturday event happening right here in New York City.

This morning, we heard from Bryan Seymour, an Australian television journalist who wanted us to know that a second felony count has been added in the criminal case against Jan Eastgate.

Janice Wendy Eastgate Meyer lives in Los Angeles and is the worldwide leader of one of Scientology's more annoying front groups, the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, which exists solely to advocate for the destruction of psychiatry.

Eastgate is Australian, and in that country last year, she was charged with Perverting the Course of Justice. It's alleged that in 1985, she coached an 11-year-old child, Carmen Rainer, to tell police that she wasn't being sexually assaulted by her stepfather, a Scientologist.


Today, Seymour tells us, a second count against Eastgate was added in the case...

[...more in article link...]

Scientology figure faces new charge in sex abuse case
AAP February 08, 2012
Sydney Morning Herald: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 1rais.html
Melbourne Herald Sun: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 6265522798
news.com.au: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/sc ... 6265522798
Yahoo! 7News: http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/latest/a/- ... ged-again/
9News: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/841 ... rged-again
Brisbane Times: http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... 1rais.html
The Age: http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... 1rais.html
SBS: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1624 ... rged-again
Courier Mail: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/brea ... 6265522798
Daily Telegraph: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/b ... 6265522798
Perth Now: http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/breakin ... 6265522798
Adeleaide Now: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6265522798
The West Australian: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/na ... ged-again/
The Australian: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/br ... 6265522798
BogPond news: http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Nationa ... 16244.html

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Post by subgenius » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:33 pm

Don Carlo wrote: It is a fact that Scientologists, particularly members of the G.O., are trained to lie. In a policy called Intelligence Specialist Training Routine -- TR-L (which stands for Training Routine Lie), the student is trained "to outflow false data effectively."
In the drill, the student has to tell a lie, which is then challenged by a coach, who works with the student until the student becomes able to "lie facily."
The ability to lie convincingly is used by the Scientologist in a variety of situations, including the giving of courtroom testimony. A Scientologist feels no obligation to be truthful in a "wog" court, even under oath. Again, this is because the Scientologist is operating under a higher law, that of the "greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics. **
* Affidavit of Margery Wakefield (23 June 1993)
** Wakefield, Margery (1991). Understanding Scientology. Chapter 12: OSA (Office of Special Affairs) -- The Secret CIA of Scientology
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One can only hope that the prosecutor in this case is aware of the training to lie effectively.
If the prosecutor is so aware, the cross-examination of any Scientologist witness, if it even gets beyond voir dire on the effectiveness of the oath in such a case, would be a romp.
Could someone please so inform them? Please.

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http://www.skynews.com.au/local/article ... 16254&vId=
An international Church of Scientology figure accused of coaching a child to lie about sex abuse has been charged for a second time.

Janice Meyer, 57, appeared in a Sydney court in June last year accused of perverting the course of justice in 1985.

The allegation was that Meyer, who also goes by the name Jan Eastgate, threatened and intimidated an 11-year-old girl into providing false information to police about being abused by a Scientologist.

A court spokesman said another offence relating to perverting the course of justice was heard at Sydney's Downing Centre Local Court on Tuesday.

The matter will be back in court on April 24 and a two-day committal hearing will begin on May 15.

Meyer is an Australian citizen who has lived in the US since 1993.

During her first court appearance, her bail was relaxed so she could travel to California.

Meyer holds a position with the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, an organisation founded by the Church of Scientology to campaign against psychiatry.
I bet Jan/Wendy will spit chips now that media is mentioning both names in the same article
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'Alert' wrote:http://www.skynews.com.au/local/article ... 16254&vId=
[..]

The allegation was that Meyer, who also goes by the name Jan Eastgate, threatened and intimidated an 11-year-old girl into providing false information to police about being abused by a Scientologist.
I bet Jan/Wendy will spit chips now that media is mentioning both names in the same article
Yeah, she will be smarting at that a bit, especially since that AAP feed article went to over 15 other major local and national news outlets. Mind you, I think that's probably now the least of her worries at this juncture.

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Re: CCHR Jan Eastgate charged: Perverting the course of just

Post by Sponge » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:17 am

Eastgate sighting:

Audience androidphone video from a CCHR event. (Uploaded Feb 12 2012).
Eastgate appears on stage at the end of the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYbKXTEiAsk

This is the official CCHRint video (no footage of Eastgate at all): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGbwnaCnHWs (uploaded Feb 15 2012)

Please no derail into the detail of CCHR subject matter on the video. Feel free to take that topic to another thread.

A comment from Pooks on WWP:
pooks, posting on WWP, wrote:
Nice leak!


I was just looking over the most recent completion list for Flag. Source Magazine Issue 220, Feb, 2012, has Jan Eastgate completing "Objectives".

LOL !

The Scn Objectives are at the very BOTTOM of the Scientology Bridge to Total Freedumb.

Jan has to start ALL over again!

That event video looks like it was held at Flag. So it makes sense that Jan is still there getting rebrainwashed and doing events.

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