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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2001 3:22 am 
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For Richaard:

Thank you for your wonderful FORGIVENESS essay.

"He who cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he himself must pass; for every man has need to be forgiven." Thomas Fuller (1608-1661)

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Andreas,
Thanks, I sure don't want to make any enemies here especially you. All are good quotes and things to think about. Some are good to live by. Have a good one.

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If the shoe fits, wear it.

"Experince is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake every time you make it."
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Tigger with shoes on :) :) :)

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A fool and his money are soon parted, but in some groups this can also apply to the highly intelligent ;)


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"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum


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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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"If the foo shits..." - my great aunt Ressie


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Why is philosophy so complicated? It ought to be entirely simple. Philosophy unties the knots in our thinking that we have, in a senseless way, put there. To do this it must make movements that are just as complicated as these knots. Although the result of philosophy is simple, its method cannot be if it is to succeed. The complexity of philosophy is not a complexity of its subject matter, but of our knotted understanding.
Ludwig Josef Johann Wittgenstein


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2001 8:33 am 
THESE QUOTES ARE MY GUIDANCE IN LIFE!

There are two ways to slide easily through life: Namely to believe everything or to doubt everything, both
Ways save us from thinking. - Alfred Korzybski!

We see what we see because we miss all finer details! - Alfred Korzybski

QUOTE BY ALBERT EINSTEIN AND ALFRED KORZYBSKI!
Science represents the highest structural abstractions that have been produced at each date.
It is a supreme abstraction from 'all' the experiences of countless individuals and generations.

Peter: Click here and review the finer details you have missed here regarding structural abstraction!
Stewen Lewis

Yours sincerely


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2001 2:01 pm 
"A science based upon Authority alone is a breath in the wind of truth and is therefore no science at all"

Guess who?? L. Ron Hubbard!!!!


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Peter and others,
An other usefull link about the same interesting topic


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TO MIKE DE WOLF
Thus keep Scientology working policy from 1967 is totally non-science since it includes only L. Ron Hubbard as contributor with rest of humanity left out. I mean human progress is a geometrical progress through time in an accelerating acceleration because of our time-binding energy as humanity, as you can see when you investigate my link above. Or in a simple explanation here!

Our civilizing progress going faster and faster through time, I mean 1500s - 1600s - 1700s - 1800s - 1900s - 1920s- 1940s - 1960s - 1980s - 2000s - 2020s and so forth!

Compare computers from 1950s through the time up to date and you will see that the progress is impressive!

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The map is not the territory.
-- Alfred Korzybski

Any links to critical thinking "against" general semantics. (other than Max Black vs. G-S )?

Simplex
p.s perhaps not a topic for xenu.net, where do we go?


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Tigger's Wednesday quote

I think this is one for everyone: :)

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference." SERENITY PRAYER (Don't know the author.)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2001 9:27 am 
TO SIMPLEX
We share our criticizing faculties or abilities with each other regarding Scientology in our electronic community here. Since whatever Scientologists say or alleged regarding Hubbard or Scientology as a functional system as a whole, it is-not so according to our various documentation, for instance Jon Attack's a Piece of Blue Sky! So obviously, we are only negative and critical regarding the Scientology system here!

Your link to Max Black versus General Semantics is very interesting at a glance and I will review it furthermore as a whole. The article belongs to Bruce I Kodish Ph.D in General Semantics. A version of this article was published in General Semantics bulletin NO 64. 1997!

Can you give me your inference about it?

I think we are in a mutual agreement here that a map is not the territory, I mean a map is something I can buy in a shop here in Sweden and it can possible describe geographically a territory, for instance your country!

General Semantics is a non-Aristotelian system and is based on two negative premises, namely there is no such thing as an object in total isolation, hence confirming Albert Einstein's space-time with plenum, and thus rejecting Newtonian "space" "time" "energy" as a isolated phenomenon. And an object is not a word, as its second basic conditionals!

Furthermore, and as a consequence, event is not the object, object is not a description, description is not an inference! And a map (General Semantics as a describing extensional discipline) is not the territory!

I can not criticize such a negative and critical system as General Semantics as far as I can see and understand, but do you know-how to do it?

Yours sincerely


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Peter1,
I'm currently working on my own theory about scientific knowledge, and I belive that General Semantics could be a good case. In short I agree with your view that we can not attack the theory behind "General Semantics"!

This is indeed relevant when we talk religion vs. science. But I need to read some more about G-S, and I will return after some time.

Simplex


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