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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:40 pm 
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Remember, that the timetrack, is very important for the scienos. How many scienos have been running what they thought was a real incident
placed 75-million years back? What is their status now, since they have been running incidents placed wrong on the timetrack. They have attested to whatever level or grade, based on false memories. Whatever they have thought themselves to experience, was actually wrong, since it didn't happen. So, now they scienos is going to say that the incidents actually was true, only the placement on the track was wrong. Ok, then that means that the auditing tech is wrong since it led the Pc or Pre OT to believe that he was in another time sequence than he actually was. No, the Scientology tech, has reached the end of the road. It's no longer possible to try to explain away the discrepancy within the whole idea of these OT-incidents, or the time track, or the tech as such. Anti-Cult


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If it's been proven (and it has!) that Hubbard was wrong concerning: the age of the universe, the age of Earth's geography (particularly Hawaii, radiation, physics, biology, drugs, many many more otherwise widely known things, then he was probably wrong about: Clears,Operating Thetans, superhuman OT abilities, the human spirit, any other metaphyical concept he saw fit to expound on. Why anyone would stake their spiritual future merely on the words of a proven, pathological liar just boggles my mind. -Scott McClare


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This space-opera scam, has no place in the modern scientific society. You are reverse engineering the witch hunts from the past. What you are saying, without really knowing it, is that those that burned these poor women actually were right, since you do believe that we are possessed by thousand of demons (BT's). The only difference, is that today your excorcism doesn't use the fire and flame technique to get rid of the demons. Only God knows which procedure is worse, fire or the scientology Implant stations. (auditing) Use your intelligence, or at least what's left of it. Get out while you still have some neurons working as intended. -Anti-Cult


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In its jargon sense, 'duplicate' is one of the more insidious bits of
Scientology mindfuck, since it carries as a hidden 'package' that
'communication' requires rote repetition and blind acceptance rather
than comprehension. 'Duplication' precludes any disagreement, rejection
or criticism.- Zinj


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For those of you who don't know, the wild slamming motion of the needle is called a rockslam and is supposed to be indicative of a supressive person, crimminal acts or psychosis. It might interest you to know that according to Otto Roos's account (which is posted on the cmu webpage, I believe) LRH was found to have rockslams in his own folder. Roos was his auditor at the time and when he discovered this, LRH got rid of him, fast! -Monica Pignotti


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Whoa!! Huborgs never claimed that people are "going over a bridge". Their cry is "Go up the bridge". Think about it. Ridiculous? You can go over a bridge and get to the other side; but, you can go up a bridge forever, and never arrive at the other side. My advice is that you avoid the bridge altogether, and take the ferry. -jm


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Bravo! That is a gem of a quote. Anyone lurking take serious consideration - it is spot on true.

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Nothing looked objectionable to me, but then I'm not a hate-filled
brainless mind-controlled glassy-eyed cult member. You are wasting
your time trying to reason with people who have cheerfully and
proudly surrendered all use of reason. -The Last Liberal


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OTIII-gets the dead space cooties off.
OTIV- gets the dead space cooties off which slept through OTIII.
OTV- gets the dead space cooties off which were smoking pot during OT
III and IV.
OTVI-gets the dead space cooties off which were hiding to avoid paying
child support during OTIII, IV, V
OTVII-gets the dead space cooties off which were gambling in Vegas
during OTIII, IV, V, VI.
OTVIII-gets the dead space cooties off who were incarcerated during
OTIII, IV, V, VI, VII. Also comes with the realization, "Now that I know
who I ain't, I'm ready to find out who I am."
OTIX- Not released yet. Purportedly deals with the removal of dead space
cooties who were unavailable for comment during OTIII, IV, V, VII, VIII.
Also comes with the realization that "I have been taken for hundreds of
thousands of dollars, and all I got to show for it is an imaginary space
cootie infestation."
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This is the objective Truth: no one EVER reaches Scientology's elusive
super-human goals. Oh sure, you can pass their ridiculous milestones,
you can complete the courses, you might even write a fanciful big win
story. But people never become super-human OTs, except in their own
minds. -Michael Reuss


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A person who gets involved in a system intentionally designed to attract
them with high ideals, break down their existing personality, and install a
new one that will work for the group's interests and against their own
interests will end up brainwashed. It's how you brainwash someone. This is
precisely how Hubbard intentionally set Scientology up. -Poopsy Charmicheal


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1. Hubbard booby-trapped the definition of a thetan to make you assume you were the thing he was defining and adopt this idea as your self-identity,
2. Used cognitive dissonence techniques in the "ruin-finding" tech, and the auditing and course supervisor tech, in the purif, the CCHs and a whole lot of other places to break down a person's previous self-identity and install a new identity that would comply with his orders,
3. Wholesale use of the re-definition of words in order to create a more maleable mindset,
4. Scattered impossible, absolute goals throughout the Scientology philosophy in order to fuck up people's thinking and keep them endlessly
seeking elsewherenesses. -Poopsy Charmicheal


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Hubbard worked his ass off trying to figure out a way to make men his slaves. And he succeeded.
Just as he found that a "being" (actually a PERSONALITY) has "positive goals" and "negative goals", Hubbard placed "positive goals" (e.g. a world without war, crime and insanity) and "negative goals" in Scientology (e.g. destroy them utterly). A "Scientologist" is a person who has assumed these goals as part of their personality. Just as a personality's positive and negative goals work together as a package - so do Scientology's. A Scientologist is a person who is stuck in this goals package created by Hubbard. --Poopsy Charmicheal


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