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Post by lucy skywalker » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:52 pm

FAITH

Faith is to believe what you do not yet see; the reward for this faith is to see what you believe.

Saint Augustine (354-430)
Religious leader


Only the person who has faith in himself is able to be faithful to others.

Erich Fromm (1900-1980)
Psychologist and philosopher

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A SUNRISE RAINBOW

Post by Tigger » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:51 pm

A SUNRISE RAINBOW

Dec. 8, 2006

"I was given a great blessing this morning.  We have had incredible weather in Albania this autumn and many days have been sunny and warm.  This morning, though, I woke up a little disappointed when I noticed the sky was overcast.  Then I looked to the left and saw a beautiful rainbow and the sun had just barely started to come up.  It was a sunrise rainbow and it reminded me that storms do come, but God's promises always hold true.
 
"Daylight is an important thing here, especially since power cuts have started again where I live.  Last Sunday I was trying to work on my computer when the next thing I knew it was completely dark.  It took me a few minutes to remember where a candle was and some matches, and then I tried to grope around and find them while I tripped over my cat.  But the lack of electricity can be a blessing (for a short time) and I find I have to just stop working and relax when the lights go out.  But please do pray for the situation here.  Right now the power goes out only a few hours a day where I live, but in other areas of Tirana and Albania the power is cut for much longer."

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:09 pm

"Don't feel sorry for someone who rejects the scientific method without
bothering to understand what it is. They're responsible for their own
ignorance, and should be left to wallow in it.

As the rest of the rational, thinking world advances and develops,
moving on to improve themselves and their lot in life the "But I/Mo Ron
Hubbard/The Church say it is so, therefore it is!" crowd will stumble
along in the darkness, ignorant and afraid.

Some, a lucky few, wake up from their self-induced intellectual slumber
and embrace reality. Maybe someday this $cieno-bot will join the ranks
of the free-thinking individual or they'll end up dead like Lisa
McPherson or perhaps just sick, broke and crazy like so many others who
have had their lives swallowed by the co$ " - Saucy111

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Post by 'Alert' » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:38 pm

Still, when you see a discussion veering into flame warfare and
personal slurs, you can pretty much assume that there's
something *else* that's being distracted from.

[...]

So, I think a sane guideline is; if it's not about
*Scientology*, don't eat the bait. Don't 'defend'; contrary to
often proposed proposition (proposed by those insistent on
manipulating the discussion) not 'defending' is *not* admitting.

However scurrilous the charges, the only *valuable* response is
to ask yourself; 'What does this have to do with Scientology?
What does this have to do with Scientology Criticism?'

If it has nothing to do with those; ignore, even when it makes
your tongue bleed.

To respond to allegations is to grant them authority; to play
the attacker's game.

Which is to distract.

Zinj
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You Can Lead a Clam to Reason; but You Can't Make Him Think
"If anyone talks about a "road to Freedom" he is talking about a linear line. This, then, must have boundaries. If there are boundaries there is no freedom." - Dianetics 55

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:53 am

" Scientology is a very effective 'conscience' remover; liberates
the victim from social and familial responsibility; enables
solipsist ideation and is a marvelous paranoid schizophrenia
simulator, for those who value such things." - Zinj

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:38 pm

"No, I think there is something more sinister to it: Alice
In Wonderland is childish and absurd [though of course
fun as fiction]. You are being made to read something
childish and absurd as if it were deadly serious, not to laugh
else you would be flunked, and each time to choke back
your feelings of criticism--"this is just plain absurd!"--and
stop making any judgement of what you are made to say;
and the practice ingrains this habit with all future $cientology
material." - Dave Bird

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:49 am

"Half the prices of the CoS because they have got no
lawyers, PIs and bully-boys to pay (as yet) so you save
a lot of money. On the other hand, they (freezone) have
got 48 OT levels to the CoS's 8 so to do them all, you
end up paying more." - RolandRB

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Post by quaoar » Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:02 am

Yes, you are correct Hubbie's Shroom! Do not forget to repeat this: the Feezone has never publicly dismissed the worst of Hubbard's policies and management publications from their version of the TEK.

So, can one trust the FeeZone that they will not invoke the very worst of $cientology ethics, disconnection, RPF, etc., if they get the chance to invoke any of these by massive adherence to THEIR CULT?

When the FeeZone makes public pronouncement that they reject the worst of Hubbard's insanity, they *might* become a reputable source of personal counseling. One step at a time, and the FeeZone must take the first step, else they will be forever relegated to Hubbard wannabees.

Q

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Post by 'Alert' » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:53 pm

"The writings of LRH form our Old Testament just as the writings
of Judiasm form the Old Testament of Christianity."

FREEZONE BIBLE ASSOCIATION
"If anyone talks about a "road to Freedom" he is talking about a linear line. This, then, must have boundaries. If there are boundaries there is no freedom." - Dianetics 55

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:50 am

"Ever heard of exorcism? Look it up. The upper levels of Scientology are
pure para-Scientology. Look that up too. They involve the removal
of "body thetans" - implanted beings. The beings are removed by
talking to them. Those upper level OTs you see walking around with
big grins on their smug faces are engaged in talking to aliens
implanted in their bodies. Cool, huh? They didn't tell you this
on the comm course! For $300,000, you too can talk to imaginary
beings stuck in your body, raise these beings on the tone scale,
and convince them to leave your body. Forget about engrams; these
Body Thetans are the real core of the tech, and removing them is
a high priority. Of course, it's all delusion, but who cares? By
the times you've spent $300,000, you'll be a true believer just
like your local idiot OTs. Just for fun, ask your OTs to show
off their much-touted "OT powers". Of course, they can't. Because
they don't have any, there's no such thing as OT, and there's no
such thing as body thetans. If you've read this far, get out of
Scientology before they take all your money and demand that you,
too, believe in and audit body thetans. So much for what's true
for you; this is forced cognition. You don't get beyond OT3 unless
you believe in and audit out these illusory creations of Hubbard's
mind." - Martin Hunt

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:19 pm

"You have every right to have a daddy-fixation on L. Ron Hubbard, but
please try to understand that not everyone needs that.
And please try to understand that same daddy-fixation is what stunts
and warps your growth, and prevents you from SORTING OUT the
enlightenment-coated mind-trap that your hero Hubbard built. "
- Muldoon

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:39 pm

"While a member of the Church of Scientology I realized that:

1. Hubbard was not great.

2. Scientology is not nice.

3. If you are not fortunate to be blessed with financial prowess, it
can impoverish you.

4. It will use your secrets and intimate details of your life, should
you abandon the church, against you.

5. If you are a prominent and active critic of the Church, they will
stalk you, harass you, and attempt to sue you into financial oblivion.

6. They will brainwash you into believing Hubbard has the key to
eternal life and omnipotent powers.

7. If you have a condition which requires medical attention, and you
aren't carefull, Scientology can kill you."

- Phineas Fogg

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:16 pm

"Honest help was rarely if ever available to me when I was in
the Sea Org for beginners. Could you explane why I had to pay
my own rent when I was in the Sea Org? Why people who have
been in the Sea Org 15+years havent' reached clear or ot? And
how come honest help is so expensive. And don't give me any
crap about the "student auditing" available for "free". Ok, you
might get a FEW free hours, but we all know that sooner or later
you will be hard sold into "professional" auditing, which is 100%
standard tech, unless you go to an AO which is even more standard,
and then there is Flag 100% standard tech, and on top of that
you can pay RTC some ungodly sum to look through your PC folders to find
mistakes that other auditors made that can be corrected, but of course you
have to pay for that also. And let's not forget that you HAVE to be a
member of the IAS to get services in an org. That's at lowest, $300 a year
or $2000 lifetime. Honest help? That's an oxymoron in Scientology."
- Future808

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:50 pm

"Wogs don't mock up reactive minds because they haven't got a
pill-popping, rum-swilling, dead, fat guru to persuade them they have
got one over the course of several years and sevaral thousands of
dollars. In that regard, wogs are natural Clears." - RolandRB

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:52 pm

"There is no 'reactive mind'; no 'Case'; no 'State of Clear'; no
'OTs', 'BTs', 'Ever Dwindling Spiral'; no 'Whole Track Space
Opera', no need to 'Keep Scientology Working' because the only
thing that 'works' in Scientology is the training in *believing*
that it 'works'." - Zinj

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