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Hey you come here to announce you are going to commit suicide and that no one can change your mind. How many years and times have you done that?

This thread now has had over 800 views and 45 responses. Is that enough attention for you?

Scientology isn't your problem. If, indeed, you are contemplating suicide, call a suicide hotline where trained people can perhaps talk some sense into you.

If you don't want advice, don't post here and try to make everyone feel guilty who won't play your game. Take it to private message where there are people like Nec who will play into your "poor me" game.

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Toney, I am old enough to be your mother. You can lash out at me all you need to, I do care, and I do hope that someone as good looking and physically fit and financially comfortable as you seem to be will at least share the wealth with those less fortunate before you check out.

For Gods sake, adopt some homeless animals, get a bird, get a dog, get a cat...any of them will love you unconditionally and will never critisze a single word you say.

Hand out quarters to homeless people, or better yet, drive the ice cream truck in your neighborhood, the smiles and appreciation you will get are worth a million dollars of introverting "therapy" from scientology or the psychs.

I do understand the feeling of having tried and realizing you failed to fix the world. I have learned to accept myself for who I am, and try to fix the things I can and to forgive myself for not being abloe to fix everything. We have to pick our battles, and we have to know our limitations.

My life is nothing like I imagined it would be, but putting it in perspective it is a better life than I could have hoped for.

I have been lucky compared to others, and I think you have been lucky too.

If we were busy trying to keep a roof over our heads and food in our bellies we would not have the means or the money to sit here on the internet complaining about anything.

Just assume a new viewpoint, get a new game, decide that if your life is not worth living you will help someone else who does want to live.

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Toney

I do feel your pain, though I have never been as depressed as you, I have a relative who just can't seem to get on with living. Everyone has to eventually solve their problem or end their problem.

At times I feel that you have a negative response to every suggestion - which in itself creates doubt in the listener's mind. Don't take offense please but if you can see even just a little light at the end of the tunnell - go to the light. Try to stay away from the darkness. I do pray for you and believe it or not you've cross my mind many times since I first read your post. I had no idea that you've been around for quite some time. Now this is a good thing - something keeps you here now just figure out what it is.

I am rooting for you. Sometimes I get depressed and the thing that keeps me smiling is my wonderful grandchildren.

Prayers to you

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Tony/Neal....

I am coming late to this thread. I am hoping you are still reading it.

I know better than most the ravages of suicide on the survivors. I couldn't stop my husband years ago, and I don't know what to say to you now that might make a difference, except please don't.

It is a terrible place to be in pain and so alone. I have seen the pain myself. Please..keep talking...


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 Post subject: Did Scientology try to help you?
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How long were you in the church?
What did they do for you?


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I would just like to say to you this................
You say that therapy doesn't work [re suicide]
my question........how do you know that ? how can we know everything ?
Are we assuming that there is nobody alive today that was on the brink of suicide and then turned their life around ?
By the manner with which you write I can tell that you are an intelligent person so i'm sure that you can see the logic behind the above.
Do your own survey don't listen to me.............
To say that therapy doesn't work is one hell of a blanket statement.
For example there is a new therapy called E.F.T.
Emotional freedom technique
Details and practitioners are at
http://emofree.com
That has amazing results far in excess of anything that I have seen,for instance Vietnam vets that 30 years later still only get 4 hours sleep per night as they are still getting images of machine guns in their heads are completely cured in a matter of an hour or two.
I personally have helped people with E.F.T.
Anyway my only other advice would be to see the movie
"What dreams may come" with Robin Williams
The reason that I feel compeled to tell you all this is that I personally have come from a very bad place psychologically and through therapy dug myself out,but as I say again don't listen to me do your own survey......................


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cricketfan,

I may not be able to help my mate to want to see tomorrow, but you are just a usury piece of crap.

I have waited before posting this, and my opinion of others has gone down accodingly.

You are an obscenity.

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Toney,

There have obiously been many forces in your life that wanted to kill you and do it secretly, don't you become one of them too. And these forces did it to you when you were a child knowing that you would be overwhelmed by them and therefore feel far worse than they could about them. Expose these forces, talk about them, and don't stop until everyone hears. You were put here on this planet with a mission, but you act like your only mission now is to die. Perhaps your mission is unclear to you, you have to overcome these feelings of self hatred and teach others how to do it too. Now theres a mission worthy of a very noble man. I will be listening to every word you have to say.


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So pray tell us *WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE* for posting what you have posted here?

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Toney,

I think that you are mistaking being misguided, with pernicious intent.

If it were a case of being buddy-buddy with Tigger, Tory or Galileo for instance, then that would not be a problem. If it came to destroying them then that would be just as little of a problem.

You know why I put myself up as a target, and it has nothing to do with the entity you know as Nec_V20, Apollo13 or Sylvie's_Friend.

It has to do with the guy you talked to on the phone.

cricketfan just takes the biscuit (and can bite any bullet I can aim at him/her for that matter) with regard to posting on this thread.

If you were to top yourself, I would not blame you. I've talked to you, and you have a sense of value that unfortunately most do not even visualize, let alone aspire to.

Compared to that, Tigger, Tory, Gallileo and the rest of the "I want to be at the head of the pecking order" trivia are not even stochastically significant.


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