It is up to people in the "know" to inform the critics so no errors are made. If no one (the ex-members or people taken advantage of by Scientology) speaks up then such things will continue.
So it's the "responsibility" of ex-Scientologists to come here and post the truth about every fabrication and wild assertion that's made?
How about it's the responsiblity of those who come here to not post bullshit to begin with?
I don't consider it my responsibility to clean up everyone else's mess.
Maybe you can elaborate on what you mean by the word "bullshit"? First, we do need to agree what is and isn't bullshit. I mean, Scientologists always say that the Xenu story is "bullshit".
Is it bullshit?
Say we come to an agreement about what is and isn't bullshit. ONLY THEN can you say people should be more responsible than to desseminate bullshit. Unless there is a clear defintion of what is and isn't bullshit, people are not going to know when they are passing it off.
So, on this board- WHO IS THE BULLSHIT POLICE? Whose job is it to counter the bullshit that gets desseminated here if not the people who "been there, done that"?
I guess you don't think the Scientologists should be doing it, and I agree.
Of course, we all know that Scientology is compartmentalized. Or do we? We all know that some Scientologists do not know what is happening in their own religion. Or do we? What is or isn't bullshit? I don't know. I only know what people who claim to be ex Scientologists are saying about their experiences, and what current Scientologists say, and what is posted in the materials distributed by Scientology, and what is on the records of numerous courts across the world, and the numerous articles that have been written on the subject.
But I am not a Scientologist. And in one of your posts, you implied that people who were not in Scientology should not post bullshit. Now, some non Scientologists won't realize that what they are repeating is bullshit. What about the Scientologists who post bullshit? Without knowing it? Repeating what they have been told in Scientology? Or having been insulated from the dark corners, the shining happy world they were exposed to or bought into?
I wish I had a dime for every Catholic who denied vehemently that a priest could molest a little boy. I wish I had a dime for every friend and acquaintence of the paedophiles I personally have known who thought that they were the pillar of the community, including their wives and children. In the real world, there is no such thing as the Bullshit Police. The victims of the paedos I knew were afraid to speak out because the entire community sided with the sociopath- and if the victim spoke up, he or she would be labeled "insane", "vicious", "extortionist" and other worse appellations.
Sorta sounds like what happens to ex Scientologists who speak out. But let's get back to the idea of defining what is bullshit to begin with:
I wish I had a dime for every Scientologist who is denying the Xenu story. DM is collecting all their dimes, so I am S. O. L. on that account. Is the Xenu story bullshit? Can you tell me lulu_belle? Or is that not your job? Oh yeah, you said it's not your job.
So, please please please tell me who is going to set any of the records straight here when somebody thinks something is "bullshit"? Who is the ultimate authority? Only Scientologists? That is, people who have been mind controlled, hypnotized, manipulated, and dissociated from consensus reality should be made the monitors of the consensus reality on this board?
I don't think that's wise. Take XXX (name redacted because I don't want to embarrass her) for example. I love XXX, bless her heart. But mama mia, she has seen a much better angle of Scientology than some, or she would not hold onto or justify any part of it. She would see how many times L. Ron prevaricated and understand that this kind of behaviour is exploitative and pathological. She would understand that L. Ron Hubbard was a hot air generator that inflated a balloon of fantasy that has so little weight it would all collapse if the hot air didn't keep filling it.
On the authority of a proven charlatan, Scientologists vouch for the "tech". People enjoyed their time in Scientology on different levels. Yes, people experience esprit de corps
in Scientology, but that happens even in PRISON and CONCENTRATION CAMPS. Is that a reason to hold onto any part of it?
In Christianity Jesus spoke of a vine. A bad vine cannot bear good fruit. If Scientology is corrupt at the foundation (the Source is a Pathological Prevaricator), how can anything built on that foundation be worth keeping?
Now, THIS is why people in Scientology need critics. Critics are a "Reality Check". Reality Checks are what L. Ron tried so hard to prevent from happening, so the concepts of "PTS", "SP" and "Disconnection" were institutionalized.
Did L. Ron himself institutionalize PTS, SP, Disconnection? Did he lie whenever his lips were moving? Especially about himself and his credentials? Did he tell people that they were becoming more free while enslaving them to the benefit of the CoS?
Am I incorrect in anything I have said here?
Then send in the "Bullshit Police" to slap me around a bit and perhaps I may see the error of my ways.