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 Post subject: What is Swifty's Game?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:34 pm 
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He showed up in late April, 2005, using the name Kent Questions Everything. The thread was 'OC Lurker Comes Out,' and he professed to be interested in religion in general. Since he has deleted several of his early posts, it's hard to say what was going on there, but he did not make a good impression on the regulars. One asked, "Are you Bill Yaude?"
PitBull may have hit a bullseye with this remark, "It's also easy to see that the church would consider you a PTS type III..."


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What LRH policy would he be practicing if what you say were the case?

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SM, of course I was in Scientology. But with me writing a book on Scientology that will not be flattering to LRH or the Cult, you have come here to attack me. If you had the proof you needed that I was in, you would instead be calling me an apostate and a liar like you do to Tory, Arnie, and the people whose identities you know. If you knew who I was, you and your OSA pals would trash me on the pages of RFW just like you have done to Andreas, Tory, Arnie, and all of the others who fight the evil Cult of Scientology. But because I have smartly refused to disclose what I did in Scientology or my training and processing levels, you have to find something to attack me on. Hence, "Swift was never in Scientology!"

BTW, SuzanneMarie, Mr. Heldal-Lund was never in Scientology and he is one of planet Earth's most effective critics. So what would I gain by lying about being in Scientology? Had I not been in, I would have modeled myself after Mr. Heldal-Lund and fought Scientology on the same basis he does. A person does not have to have been in Scientology to know that it is an evil and malicious cult. There is no gain for me to have lied about being in Scientology. What would be my motive for lying?

Here is the truth of the matter: What SM needs is to find out my real identity so that OSA can go get my pc folder file in order to find blackmail. This is the problem that Scientology has: It has no blackmail on me now. So it sends SM over here to try to smoke me out so that I will admit to something. Okay, SM, here is a clue: It was Mr. Mustard in the study with the wrench.

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Yesteday was a pivotal day. Here is what happened to you SuzanneMarie:

1. My friends and I kicked your ass in debate on KG's thread, "I Am to Be Destroyed, How About You?"

2. I outed you as OSA in KG's thread.

3. I also outed theta_entheta as your sock puppet on KG's thread.

4. SM, you are theta_entheta and OSA.

5. Clamdgrr made you look very bad.

6. My friends and I left your reputation here in tatters and left you downstat and crying. You are in deep trouble with OSA management because you messed up and made yourself, OSA, and Scientology all look stupid.

Never defend, always attack, right SuzanneMarie?

SuzanneMarie, the bigger action that you want to hide by attacking me is that I outed you yesterday as theta_entheta and as an OSA agent. I also outed you for keeping a dossier on me and every other poster. Further, I showed how desperate you were to put a knife in my back.

People who want to read the big action when I outed SuzanneMarie should start on this page when "theta_entheta" (SM) thought she had her hands around my throat:

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=20107&postorder=asc&start=240

Just keep reading the posts and you will see SM fall down the OCMB Troll Scale from stupid to stupider. Nevertheless, SM is quite vicious so beware of her. She is also theta_entheta and may be posing as other posters. Please report any of her phishing attempts to get information on Swift.

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RWT said it best about SuzanneMarie:

No matter what you say you have already proven yourself a liar SM so you can go tap dancing with Ron because you aren't convincing anyone here of anything but your deceit!


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 Post subject: Early Swift
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One of Swift's first posts, 4/30/05:

"I have purchased Scientology books and tapes and can continue to do so any time I wish if I pay for these books and tapes. That is the way it works...That is exchange. I can use exchange to satisfy my curiosity about Scientology to some extent."

What ex or current member would be needing to do this? Someone suspended for being type III?

Squirrel on J. Swift: "I must admit that the newcomer posts on this thread got R/Ss on my bullshit meter. Don't know exactly what it is, but something just doesn't ring true."

Programmer Guy on Swift: "I don't trust people who talk the way he does."

Swift's next post was deleted by author.

Iloki quotes one of Swift's deleted posts:

"I am not a Scientologist (even though in my third post I said I was): I am not OSA, but I am one of those Scientologists who did a few services a long time ago and have remained on the membership roles for over 20 years. I find Scientology interesting and they can count me as a member if they want."

4Sanity quotes a deleted J. Swift post: "Ex-Scientologists and critics are responsible for many of their own problems. It is not all the Church's fault as you make it appear. You have sued the Church, extorted it, ridiculed it, accused it of crimes it never committed, and you attack it each and every day, digging your ruts deeper and deeper as you plow the same ground over and over. Everything you say you hate about the CoS you have been guilty of yourselves: Excessive litigation. Lies. Character assassination. Distortion. Malice. Contempt. Coordinated media attacks.
Black PR. Theft. Hatred. Arrogance."

Programmer Guy on Swift: "I believe that you are a phony. You are neither telling the truth about yourself nor why you are here."


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All of us anonymous critics are evasive about their identity. Some critics reveal something, and then panic and reverse themselves; I did this once.

Many of us baffle other critics, and they complain. Big deal. I wish we'd focus not on who you are, but what you write. For example, Swift speculates about Trementina base as though he KNOWS something, and I've tried to get him to either cite his sources or tone down his certainty.

But who J. Swift IS, and whether he was in CoS or not, and his deep innermost thoughts ...are his business, not mine.


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I agree. Concentrate on what is written, and mostly what
helps undress Scientology.

I'd say 99% of all attacks on people..........were started by OSA,
are run by OSA ops, and many times people have no idea,
as I used to watch Yaude create such upsets intentionally.
Maybe you're not OSA..........but by the nature
of posting on the Internet, you are in touch with hidden
OSA Floormats (and this goes for all of us),
and one of their KEY goals is getting
people OFF of the subject of Scientology.........and attacking
critics of Scientology. And they ARE just like the Wizard of Oz:
Tiny--small in number, really full of hot air, and they have absolutely NO power,
unless a 'critic' gives it to them, see?

This topic, by it's nature, accomplishes both. If he's jumping all
over you, well...........one has to look at what that point is, too.

Who J. Swift really is, I agree...he's changed his story, a few times
As Don Carlo pointed out so well, that happens here on the Net,
so? What he posts about, that's what matters. And the same is for you,
too. J/. Swift has said we're friends. I would't go that far...no offense
to him. People I consider friends are people I know quite well.
I've met with him, yes. Friend? errrr.....naw....not yet anyways.
I'd say he's really someone I know from the Internet, mostly. I love his
illustration of OT 3, as I've told him.

I've asked you what your purpose is for being here, and you'll never answer. What's that all about? I'd really like to know, that isn't some
covert attack..............I hope you're here to learn, but so far it doesn't seem like that. Fill me in, please, and please keep in mind the GOAL of
OSA ~~is~~to stop free speech by keeping people yammering about EVERYTHING BUT SCIENTOLOGY.

Undress Scientology....we all win. To those lurking, bag this junk and
read the Web sites: There's TONS of facts there that Scientology doesn't want you to read. Check out the main page right here on www.xenu.net
or videos of OT 7's and OT 8's, X-Sea Org members, and many more at
www.xenutv.com
Don't miss the FACTS.


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PS: I LOVE The illustration of LRH dancing :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I dont buy this thread's intent any more than I buy the buttersquash thread intent
both = diversions
both have nothing to do with exposing scientology

Diversion and preset are magic show techniques

Oh.. LOOK OVER THERE

(maybe we can get the activists whose every keystroke is ruining us utterly and without sorrow to waste them fighting each other)

but whatever you do don't expose the

FACT that on L Ron Hubbard's Birthday
a kid named Jeremy perkins stabbed his scientologist mother 77 times AFTER SHE BELIEVED HUBBARDS LIES ABOUT PSYCHIATRY and took her son off his prescibed medication.LINK

or the

FACT that Hubbard was in bed with OTO screwball Jack Parsons... and patterned scientology after that rigamarole which just so happens to be the same crap that caused WWII and may be behind WWIII. LINK

or the

FACT

That Hubbard himself has been convicted FRAUD both on the continent and in the United states

or the

FACT Tom Cruise is dangerous and irresponsible LINK

or the

FACT

That the words and conduct of activists on this chat board interferes with the continued extraction of money from rubes.

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The 'intent' of this thread is pretty obvious - it is nothing more than a distraction, a weeeeak attempt to further smear J. Swift - and more proof that Suzanne Marie fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down. HOWEVER - it does expose Scientology - as far as the Fair Gaming of critics right in front of our eyes here in OCB and how OSA works. Also how they do keep records on every poster here.

I think it would be wrong to let her accusations sit and to say nothing.

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SUZANNE MARIE AKA THETA_ENTHETA IS A SHAM AND A LIAR AND HAS BUNGLED HORRIBLY AT HER TASK EVEN WITH OSA'S HELP.

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SuzanneMarie, once again you withhold the entire truth of the matter. Why didn't you report what I had posted here at OCMB about why there are inconsistencies in my biographical details?

Here is my post of 30 Nov 2005:

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Tory, I appreciate your concern for my safety. I will say that I do seed my posts with disinformation designed to lead OSA astray. It is inconsequential information, but it would serve to mislead OSA significantly. For example, there are four details in what I shared about 1990 -- or was it 1989 or 1991? -- that are or may be inaccurate. For example, I may or may not have been writing ad copy for a carpet cleaning service. I may have been writing brochures for a health club or a residential alarm company or for some other industry. I may or may not have lived in Sherman Oaks. I may haved lived in Encino or Studio City or Burbank or even another city. I may not have a new baby but in fact had an older child and my wife may have been my girlfriend at the time. And I may have been $75,000, or more, upside down on a small home and not a luxo-condo.

Anyone who has concerns should seed their posts with trivial and misleading details as a matter of security practice. This is an accepted practice in intelligence work. Change a year, your age, a detail, a job title, a city, a month, a place, a school name, a model of car, and other details that OSA would compile on a dossier. These will not hurt the substance of your posts and no one except you will know. You are not under oath here and owe OSA nothing except to complicate their job with disinformation.

The reason I mention this at all is that I know that OSA starts a dossier one everyone here and I realized this when I started. Thus, whatever they have compiled on me has many inaccuracies and they can guess what is or isn't accurate. If they went looking for me, there are a lot of dead ends. I assume that many people here do exactly what I do and plant trivial and inaccurate information that does not affect the substance of a post but does mislead OSA.

I have worked with US intelligence agencies in the past and disinformation and inaccuracies are a given when dealing with the enemy. I have seen dozens of examples of Scientology using disinformation, especially CCHR. For me, it is all about creating a fog that obscures.

This does not have to mean that you need to doubt my posts, but rather indicates that my posts do embed trivial and even seemingly inconsequential inaccuracies unrelated to the matter at hand. Everyone here should be proactive in taking countermeasures against OSA by fabricating small biographical inaccuracies that, when added together over time, result in large distortions for OSA to figure out.


ref: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=15006&postorder=asc&highlight=sherman+oaks&start=135

SuzanneMarie: Have fun figuring out what is real and what is not real in my biographical info. I have deliberately posted, and will continue to post, disinformation to protect myself from OSA hacks like you. I advise others to do the same. SuzanneMarie, I owe you and your fellow OSAbots nothing except to make your lives difficult.

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I think this thread has a place here.

I disagree with scientology and would like to see
it dismantled as much as the rest of you, but.....

J. Swift wrote:
Yesteday was a pivotal day. Here is what happened to you SuzanneMarie:

1. My friends and I kicked your ass in debate on KG's thread, "I Am to Be Destroyed, How About You?"

2. I outed you as OSA in KG's thread.

3. I also outed theta_entheta as your sock puppet on KG's thread.

4. SM, you are theta_entheta and OSA.

5. Clamdgrr made you look very bad.

6. My friends and I left your reputation here in tatters and left you downstat and crying. You are in deep trouble with OSA management because you messed up and made yourself, OSA, and Scientology all look stupid.

Never defend, always attack, right SuzanneMarie?


Swifty, who are you to talk about sock puppets????

Your the biggest attention whore on this board.

You are J. Swift Jr., Dr. Juan, Clamdgrr, Dejembe Joe, and
who knows who else...arn't you?.
You create threads and sometimes your talking to yourself.
You use your sockpuppets to agree with yourself.
It's sad to say the least. I'm sure you'll deny it, but I'm not fooled.

You do post some good stuff, but the rest of it is total garbage.
It's the main reason I don't come around here anymore,
I'm sick of it. I fully realize I'm not missed one iota, except for
maybe some funny pictures. But you continue to clog this board
with all your trash.

How about kicking back and giving someone else a chance.

Speaking of which, you interjected your paranoia into
the competition thread. I designed #8 and will defend it.

Why are you so worried about what the scientologists think??
It's a cartoon!!! Your entitled to your opinion, but if they want to
shoot me down like a duck in a pond, I will fry them up like the clams that they are.

A shout out to whoever did 2 and 3...very funny and I actually prefer those over my own. I would just change the graphics a little.

What imagery comes to mind with the title of this website
OPERATION CLAMBAKE??? Maybe Andreas should change the name.
we wouldn't want to upset any scienos...would we????

I think they'd be much happier with a picture of hubbard,
even though its a bad one as opposed to the other designs.
Actually I'm certain they would be thrilled. I just don't get why
some of you would want hubtoads face on that CD...but whatever.

(Sorry for putting this here about the CD.)
But I just wanted to say my peace.

Andreas, use the design if you wish, anyway you like.
All I ask is that if you make T-shirts...I get one :)

I'm done here on this board...good luck to all who are
fighting the good fight.

And no...I am not OSA...so don't even try it.

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It is just so amazing how some critics are acting more and more
like the Scientologists they used to be.

Working to squash discission and contrary opinions.
Labelling individuals as OSA or some outher untouchable pariah.
Attacking anyone who might even consider using what they learned
in Scientology in a positive way outside the church.
Invalidating ANY wins one might have had that might support a view contrary to their own about auditing.
Cloaking themselves in an air of "superiority" that only they have the right answer.

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Giggles,

I am not J.Swift.

This is misleading and horribly incorrect.

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clamdigrr wrote:
Giggles,

I am not J.Swift.

This is misleading and horribly incorrect.


Sorry, but I don't believe you.

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