I'm not gonna rail against anyone here, everone has a right to their opinions. No one can get along with everbody, it's impossible. I will ask this tough. Instead of starting threads that objectify one person, would it not be easier to just ignore their posts?

I'm mostly a lurker, but I do post occasionally. There are a couple members here who drive me crazy with their posts, I just bypass them. 100% refuse to read them. I will say this though. I think Tommy is a very cool guy. About 6 months ago, when I was having a great deal of anxiety about Scientology wondering if they were ever gonna get off my back. I pm'd Tommy. He was awesome and I'll never forget him saying that I could use his name if I needed to. That still makes me laugh to this day. In my opinion, Tommy is a great critic. He's the type of critic that works for me, and probably many others. I like to think that I'm a leader type in real life, you know, take charge of the situation. It's nice to know that we have people here that can relate to that. I rarely get intimidated by a situation, but when the Scientology and black magic threads were the hot topic, along with fair game which I was unfamiliar with, I got freaked. I am glad that Tommy acted the exact same way I would. He basically said, if they want a war, let's give them a war!

That said. I can also agree that some new people might be intimidated by Tommy's approach. Well the good news is, we have critics that they can relate to. Maybe it's you. If you've ever had a person here come and ask for your help, then you should be proud. It's because you have a style that makes people comfortable. Take a moment and be proud of yourself, I'm serious.

This board needs EVERY type of critic. The more the merrier in my opinion. We might have people here who are actually afraid to speak up, because they feel that they might get flamed for it. But they might be able to help one more person get out. Trust me on this... if a Scientologist leaves this board because of how one person posts, they're not ready to leave yet. There's nothing you or anyone else could have done to prevent that. So why don't we allow a little freedom here. You keep doing your thing, it wasn't my style, but I know it works. And Tommy, carry on my friend. Cheers!

Although I have never met Tommy in RL I have to say his story moved me. As someone who has never been in Scientology, but is scared for personal reasons, ~that would be me~ I find Tommy's posts refreshing. I don't post that often because I don't have much to say somedays or I'm just busy. I feel that Tommy expressing himself in the way he does is his way of trying to get the truth across. And just like I have my way of saying things, he has his way. Who are we to judge that?

Repetitive? Maybe so, but there's no better way to get the truth out about things if you don't keep saying it

~BIG HUGS~ Stay sweet Tommy and keep on telling the true harms of Scientology

It is, basicaly, the same technique as used in Co$ in some of the TR's. Difference is, this time it is used for the good cause.

Well, I am going to chime in here. Just four days before Stevie Ray Fan posted...I found myself thinking the same thing...I was perusing "Your Story from Inside Scientology" and found tommy's name at the bottom of every thread all the way back to page 3. Very creepy. It struck me that Tommy could kill a thread faster than I could.

But, Tommy, you didn't see my story....I was in Scn for over 25 years....so you didn't add your comments to that one. Not sure I watn to resurrect it I don't want you to put your signature last post on it. It's not even attributed to me as its author, so looking for "kate" won't find it.

I am also struck by the fact that all who are commenting on this thread (Magoo being the exception) have joined OCMB in just the last year or so...it's those of us who have been on this board for a while that have expressed concern over the "spamming" and that is what it is--no other name for it.

I have to say I miss the older posters like No IC Now, White Dove, Songbird, Don Carlo, Mick Wenlock, Chuck Beatty, and others whose insight and experieence helped me recover from Scientology.


I can understand wanting to read everything and decompressing...and I have noticed that Tommy is not doing that as much as he was when he first joined, so he is recovering.

Ican only hope that tommy continues to recover and heals from his experience in Scientology...he is young and has a long life ahead of him.

Whether you like or dislike Tommy's repetitive posts or not, the facts speak for themselves. If you look at who's got the last post on every thread on the last 2 pages of the "your story" section, you see tommygormanxenu. It's clear, whatever momentum a thread has been ruined. I'm just pointing out a fact.

I'd go even further and say people are largely turned off to this section of the message board because the interesting posts you'd like to read are being covered up by someone who's just putting a stamp on every thread.

Tommy isn't sharing his story. He's being that guy who's offering up that unwelcome "high five." You reluctantly put your hand up and let him slap it. Then, you leave the room the 1st chance you get.

Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about it. It's just an annoying part of this message board we have to deal with.

Hopefully, Tommy will realize that sometimes "less is more." Maybe, at that point, he'll realize, he doesn't need to compulsively say something after someone posts. Then, maybe, he'll let the last post stand on its own until someone who's had a similar experience wants to express some empathy or share part of their story.

This is what I believe.

mb

I have loved ones that are still in the cult and I hope that they will find this site one day as I did and as someone correctly said earlier in this thread, the Tommygorman posts will completely reinforce their preconceived opinions about the "disaffected", "low-toned" and "low-IQed" DBs (degraded beings for those unfamiliar with the Scieno lingo) that are betraying their religion. I was thinking that after each Tommygorman post I could post the following : "Tommy, substitute psychiatry for Scientology and you sound just like Dennis Clark. (Dennis Clark is the very obnoxious CCHR spokesperson that just keep talking (yelling) no matter what happens around him when he's made TV appearances). Does anyone think that is a good idea?

Thanks guy for posting that, see I knew I wasn't the only one who felt that way. And there are certainly those out there who can express it in much better ways than I can.

I think those who post, particluarly if you were previously in, have a responsibility to act in a way that helps others get out too. That includes not acting in such a way that reinforces the brainwashed beliefs about "apostates". Those in believe you (ex'es) have overts and withholds which simply explains why you left, regardless of what may have been done to you. Don't play into that hand. Like I said before, those who took the time to write and speak about their experiences in very matter of fact, unembellished ways had tremendous impact on me when I was thinking of leaving. It's not difficult to do, nor do you have to be a literary whiz.

Is this being a control freak to say this? I don't think so. It's my opinion and it is based on things I have seen that benefitted me and others.

Now since this thread has started Tommy has mentioned things about his getting others out and having tires slashed. Well hell, write about this stuff, post pictures of the vandalism, that's what we are here for. I'm sorry if you can't see the difference in this and the other posts you make and the separate effect each type has.

Imagine if Dr. Shannon just came here to say only "Scientology SUCKS" instead of writing about the insightful and manipulative practices she had to endure? What a loss that would be and how respected would she be on these boards?

Ok...are we done with this thread now? Seems to me like it's been pounded into the ground long enough.

Yes I understand what you mean Kate I really do, but the one thing I've come to learn about OMCB is that everyone who is a member has a right to express themselves in any way they want to. And regardless of what you think of Tommy, he has that right just as much as the rest of us.

and you know, by posting what he does it seems to me is his way of healing.

Ok so I'm sorta new still and I don't post that often and I'm taking his side. Again, maybe so. And again its just not my style to say something unless I'm moved to or unless I'm in a silly mood and then I'll come up with alot of stuff where people go "omg Rikki what the hell were you thinkin?!?!" but still I have my ways. Everyone is an individual and has thier ways and you know Tommy is no exception.

~shrug~ Not trying to make waves but isn't being an individual better than being a scientologist?

Kilia - yup I agree... lets move on seriously

Hey Tommy,I read your story and have read your posts.I just want
to say you do an awesome job encouraging and supporting people
here with their stories.

My experience was brief but If I had come out of the cult and posted
it would of really helped me to have somebody like yourself encouraging
me,answering questions and supporting me along the way because
you understood what it was like.I know this,because I had the opportunity
to go to a few support groups with Steve Hassan.

What's good about this board and others now is ex-scientologists have a
place where others can help them sort through it because they have
similar experiences.This is obviously because of the internet before
it was alot harder.

The fact that you went through hell ,talked about it and want to help
really says alot about yourself.Keep up the good work you do!

Tommy, I encourage you to keep posting here, I have said this before, but don't let others try to get you down. Expose the truth, let the world know the true nature of scientology with facts, facts and more facts.

OH YEAH ,YOU ARE SO RIGHT
TOMMY IS DOING A GOOD JOB
IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS POSTS
DON'T READ THEM
SAY THERE' S A CULT TO UNDRESS THERE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT THE CRIMINAL KULT ORGANISATION
ZIP ZIP ZIP
STILL AROUND
NO FEAR
NO MASK
ZORRO

I love to see weird sensitive people weeping about my postings. OSA or weird sensitive people keep on moaning, weeping and complaining those tactics will not work. If anything it will just make me post more about the true harms of Scientology. If you like to moan, weep and complain about little postings it shows how sensitive, weird and funny your life really must be. I find this very humorous and dont mind you positng things about this at all obviously people that do stuff like this have no life. I guess it is better that you moan and complain on here and try to be a control freak towards me, than joining a cult and ruining peoples lives. Everyone that supports me thanks a lot and those that dont to bad get over it I will never stop communicating how I feel and it doesnt matter if you dont agree because I will keep being who I am. But please talk about me in anyway I find it humorous and I love to laugh at people like you

IMHO Tommy Gorman

Way to stay positive Tommy

Yeah Tommy: I'm all for ya! SCIENTOLOGY ***DOES** SUCK!

So keep saying it! They **hate** those one liners, that stick in people's minds. ((Even if those complaining are not with OSA< which I doubt...
that type of complaining does ring very similar to what OSA tries to do.
It's called "Black PR" and it's designed to make others think less of someone. Did it work? Not for me).

Keep up the excellent work, Tommy~

Best to you and all here,

Tory/Magoo~~