I never said anyone was banned for making derogatory statements on other sites, nor did I say they would be.

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Roan, you need to understand that saying that you will do X because you see someone doing Y ELSEWHERE is exactly part of the problem here.

You're starting to look like Big Brother instead of a mod who takes everything at face merit and on it's own weight. Such mods are cancer.

Lemme boil it down; you're starting to make things very draconian AND fascist...

Is this not a problem for you?

Okay

show me in the FAQ's where you can get a warning or banned for posting a PM on another message board?

Andreas FAQ's are rules of behavior here. Not on the entire net.

Oh wait, your not trying to censure the Internetz....are you?
by threatening people to get banned here for their behavior on the Internet?

*sigh*
I don't like the way this is going.

I agree. There seems to be an agenda here driven by more than what meets the eye.

OK, I was going to remain silent on this subject, but I feel I must add my two cents. I'm taking the logical view about this, now, and please don't hate me for what I am about to say, but I feel it is pertinent to what is going on. I don't know who has what power, or what responsibility on this board (OCMB) and frankly I don't give a damn. Everyone knows their place here, and tries to do their job well given the responsibility to their best ability. Given that an action has an opposite and equal reaction, it is most likely that something bad went down to warrant a ban. I don't know all the details of this case or others, but, again I am taking a general view. I would like to remind EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE, that OSA, DM, etc... is reading this and they are probably breaking out the champagne because there is conflict within critics, especially OCMB! Now... We can go two ways on this:

A. Continue this little squobble, and loose focus of the true purpose of OCMB, and let scientology get ahead of the race while we lag behind on this red herring.

or...

B. We can put this issue to rest, as it is wasting too much time, and focus on originally what this board was intended for... UNDRESSING SCIENTOLOGY and EXPOSING ITS WRONGS

Now, I feel this issue has reached a point where the admin should intervene, or act as a mediator and say "...YES or NO... this is the way it should be..."

If necessary the Code of Conduct for this board should be updated to reflect this little conflict.

For the sake of the integrity of this message board, OCMB, and the sanity of the posters, (me included), Everyone should take a deep breath, take a chill pill and above all relax. Fighting will get no one anywhere. To make it perfectly clear, I am not judging anyone, nor do I want anyone judged.

Again, you all may not agree with me on this one, and some of you may have the urge to blast me for what I've said. I feel this is the truth as I see it, as a level-headed and reasonable person. I'm not going to write any further on this, and if we all choose to get the admin involved in this matter, so be it. If not, just the same.

We seriously need to stop this now, and get on with more important business here.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope we can finally put this to rest and move on.

Wow, I guss there's so much that could be said, about so much and it's interconnecting points that stem from one moment in time.

But alas, for what?

No, really, for what real purpose?

Anywayz, the thing >I< personally dig is, my own ability to wittle away at the elk I once had in my eye, that is now a fence pailing.

Golly, it wouldnt be hard to think people have actually lost focus of what we are doing and why.

Am glad Im not one of those

When we see men of a contrary character,
we should turn inwards and examine ourselves.
Confucius

I've already stated who I am, I am pretty certain I've been around this board longer than you have.

I already told you, I don't like you, nor would I ever drink with you. I will see you on the 16th of August with my picket sign. Do what you have to do and I'll do what I want. You weren't doing shit before Anonymous came to town, now all the sudden you think you're some sort of celebrity. Banning this account means nothing to me, it's not mine. You may think you're a "God" on OCMB, but you're less than a piece of dog shit to me in real life. You filed a false police report, wow...doesn't that sound like the tactic of a certain organization? Some guy said he was going to kick my ass on the internet...wahhhhhh. I'm sure the police laughed at you after you left the station, I know I would have.

People know xenu.net.

We have have huge name recognition globally. When people think of Scientology, they think of xenu.net

OCMB offers its members an unparalleled place from which to speak. In return, OCMB expects that this privilege will not be abused. We have a culture here at OCMB that has been proven by fire and legal threats for over ten years now. Andreas does not ban people so much as they ban themselves by their own behavior. It takes a lot to get banned from OCMB. Offenders are warned. I was once warned by Andreas a few years ago when I had violated the TOS here. It was a Final Warning. I decided that I valued my membership at OCMB and made changes. I value the freedom I have on OCMB to work as an artist, writer, and thinker. I have unusual freedom here at OCMB, and, I don't abuse my privileges. Posting at OCMB is a privilege and not a right. OCMB does not owe anyone anything. This board is all privately financed and operated.

Many of us, people like me, have years of sweat equity in OCMB. We have worked long and hard to make OCMB a world class board with topnotch research archives for the media and anyone who wants to read or study about Scientology. Senior OG are expected to privately help people. I answer many PM's and e-mails in any given week as do so many other OCMB members. The Senior OG here walks their talk. We get in the trenches and the mud and help people. To this point, I remind one and all that OCMB is the home of Shawn Lonsdale. OCMB was the place from where Shawn fought his battles online with Scientology. Shawn placed his links here and posted his updates here. OCMB gave Shawn his chance to find the hero in himself when the world had dismissed him as a lost cause. OCMB took Shawn in and honored him and celebrated and widely publicized his work. OCMB'ers called Shawn and sent him money. Shawn's posts are still proudly in our archives. We preserve Shawn's memory and heritage here at OCMB. The Senior OG at OCMB also embraced Anonymous early on. We believed in Anonymous and publicly promoted Anonymous early on. We publicly defended Anonymous against the endless attacks of Os and Smitty, the naysayers who said that all Anons were criminals.

OCMB has been the via whereby many people have left Scientology. OCMB was where Tory, Marc Headley, John Peeler, and so many others first came to when they exited Scientology. The media comes to OCMB first to lurk when a story about Scientology breaks. The global media calls Clambakers like Andreas, Arnie, Tory, and Marc Headley first when there is a story. OCMB has a proud heritage and a great future as one of the great websites on the internet.

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OCMB is not going to allow someone like Daywatch to come in and wreck our board with his contempt, hostility, and arrogance. DW is an anarchist. He intended only anarchy and told us so. Why do we need or want an anarchist whose avowed goal was to "bring fire" into OCMB? Daywatch is free to go start his own internet site. He has options.

At OCMB respect is earned and not given. OCMB is not EO where everyone is equal. Here, you have to work long and hard to earn your place. You work off the board in your spare time. You network. You build relationships and trust. You help people exit Scientology. DW was one of those people we get from time to time who has disregard for the ways of OCMB. He was warned and he told us he had no intention of getting with the OCMB program so he was banned.

I got banned at EO for a week for not getting with the EO program. One reason I don't spend much time at all at EO is because I know that I cannot abide by its rules. I respect EO and do not go over there and act in a defiant way. When I do post there, I am respectful of the rules. EO has banned what? 100's of people? EO drops the banhammer fast. We also drop the banhammer here periodically.


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About 99% of America doesn't think about Scientology, who do you think you're fooling?

I always have abided by the rules here on OCMB.
So why am I getting a warning about my behavior on the Internet?

You must not get out much between huffing paint and cutting yourself. You poor little angry goth. Things Scientology -- Tom Cruise, Xenu, BT's, Xenu.net -- sell in the media. Set a Google News Alert to "Scientology" and you will get an e-mail from Google news everyday like I do. Scientology is a recurring news story. There are certainly lulls where no one cares. But when there is a story, it is a big story. Scientology is the most scrutinized Cult in the world. Scientology is the butt of jokes to those who don't know anything about it and a threat that needs to be handled by those who do.


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lolwut???

Desert Rain, you are a great member of OCMB. I respect you and your beautiful heart. I understand that you disagree with the banning of Daywatch. You have every right to disagree. Who is saying that you cannot disagree with DW's banning?

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