Who owns and manages OCMB???

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anondelmundial
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Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by anondelmundial » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:24 pm

A simple question: Andreas, are you the owner of OCMB? If not, who is the owner of OCMB? Who are moderators, if any? Bueller? Bueller?

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by Don Carlo » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:23 pm

Andreas Heldal-Lund founded OCMB in the 1990's. He pays for it and does technical things like change the home page of www.xenu.net. Although he is mostly busy on his day job in Norway, he posts occasionally and leaves instant messages. At present Andreas leaves moderation to I'mglib, Dorothy, and me. In turn we mods are happy that we don't have to deal with pop-up ads, or ask for donations.

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by anondelmundial » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:13 am

Thank you for your response! Where and how can I contribute my USD to keep this site running?

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by Don Carlo » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:46 am

Andreas has never asked for money. The mods volunteer their work. Thanks for the offer, though.

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by I'mglib » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:10 am

anondelmundial wrote:A simple question: Andreas, are you the owner of OCMB? If not, who is the owner of OCMB? Who are moderators, if any? Bueller? Bueller?
I wonder why you would ask this question when 3 years ago you posted this to Andreas:
Andreas, do the right thing: kill OCMB gently with a bullet to its brain.
You do not want to admit new subscribers. OK, I can appreciate this,
since OCMB is your site.

OTOH, OCMB is dying as a vine does when its roots are dead.

OCMB has become the J Swift personal message board and the Sponge
aggregator of news from, primarily, whyweprotest.net.

OCMB has ZERO original content, and is a waste of time for its readers.

Do it, Andreas: kill OCMB in the quiet of a dark night with a bullet to
its brain.

After all, you are paying for service that has no intrinsic value any
more. There are many more important and timely sites that offer much
more than OCMB does after you strangled it into a coma several years ago.

OCMB is a waste of your resources, and a waste of the world's time.
Nothing appearing on OCMB is original, barring J Swift's personal ganja
hallucinations.

You strangled OCMB into oxygen narcosis several years ago. Now is the
time to complete your death program for OCMB. OCMB is useless, and a
waste of the world's time.

Why continue the abuse of the world at large? Just do it!

Hmmmm...
"A man may build himself a throne of bayonets, but he cannot sit on it." -William Ralph Inge

Watch the Los Angeles press conference here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ScilonTV#p/

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by spacecootie » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:31 am

Isn't the correct answer to the original question:

"Evil forces that want to destroy Scientology, the only hope for mankind?"

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by Don Carlo » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:36 am

Multiple critic sites means CoS can never silence everyone. Critics will outlast Miscavige.

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Post by anondelmundial » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:35 pm

I'mglib wrote:This message board was started by a man name Andreas Heldel Lund about 20 years ago! It is the original anti-Scientology message board, and has a ton of useful information.
Soooo... Who now "owns" xenu.net and ocmb.xenu.net? Is Andreas involved? (I think not, but what do I know).

Who is the manager of xenu.net and ocmb.xenu.net?

You can answer, there is no threat of retribution anymore. OCMB has fallen off the grid of trafficked web sites. The world and dog have no interest, whatsoever, in OCMB. The last I have seen on Alexa, it no longer tracks OCMB because its traffic is too minimal to monitor - 1.3 million in rank in its last review.

The halcyon days are far behind OCMB, sadly.

...so, who is the owner of the site, and who manages the site? Andreas was completely up front. How about it??

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by Don Carlo » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:39 pm

There are still picketers who write our website name, http://www.xenu.net on picket signs, because we have been around so long and do have a short snappy name. We are here for any escaping Scientologist who only remembers our website name. The home page http://www.xenu.net , has a ton of links to allies, books, critical essays, and analysis. I link daily to The Ortega Underground, so a newbie that lands here first, can find that excellent site.

It's fine that many of our commenters have migrated to
The Ortega Underground http://www.tonyortega.org/
Ex-Scientologist Message Board, http://www.forum.exscn.net/forum.php
Whyweprotest https://whyweprotest.net/community/
Divided by Zero http://www.divided-by-zero.com/forum.php
Marty Rathbun's site http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
http://www.johnpcapitalist.com
and other sites.

I scoop stories that aren't obvious Scientology stories, like
the new book God Bless America: Strange and Unusual Religious Beliefs and Practices in the United States, by Karen Stollznow, viewtopic.php?f=9&t=296455
and CoS pal Sheriff Baca gets FBI probe of his jail's violence, viewtopic.php?f=11&t=39198&p=710691 Both of those stories, including each Sheriff Baca update, then appeared on other message boards. OCMB is on Norwegian time, nine hours later than California time, so it sometimes looks like I posted after American discussion boards, but I'm actually earlier.
Tony O has picked up some of my scoops, too. That's fine if other sites check us for leads.

OCMB has our own flavor and strengths, and we are still creating content every day. If that isn't satisfying you, you don't have to visit us.

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Re: Who owns and manages OCMB???

Post by Don Carlo » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:35 pm

OCMB/www.xenu.net today placed ninth on a Google search for Scientology, because of our thousands and thousands of posts and links. Unlike the Church of Scientology, we don't try to raise our Google ranking with fake linked sites, and other twiddling. The only critical sites above us were two wikipedia entries and several recent news stories. It was ahead of all other critic message boards.

Critics sites after us in order as of Dec. 19:
1. http://exscientologykids.com/
2 and 3. two sites by Dr. David Touretzky, http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html and http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/
4. http://www.scientology-cult.com/ This is an independent Scientologist site.
5, 6 and 7. Three in-depth articles by The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, and Tampa Bay Times
8. Urban Dictionary: scientology
9. http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/

Google rankings are less important due to new social media, but still show we are OUT THERE as a major resource for new seekers and recent escapees. So, even if more people are visiting other message boards, this still is a primary gateway, and we have no intention of shutting it down.

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