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 Post subject: The source that Source plagiarized Thetans from
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2000 2:31 pm 
This post assumes that the reader is familiar with the ( plagiarized ) theology of Thetans.

Condensed from http://www.gnosis.org/whatisgnostic.htm

To understand Gnosticism, said Hans Jonas, one needs something very much like a musical ear. Such a Gnostic "musical ear" is not come by easily. One person who seemingly possesses it is Professor Clark Emery of the University of Miami. In a small work on William Blake, Emery summarizes twelve points on which Gnostics tended to agree. Nowhere in the current literature have I found anything else so concise and accurate in describing the normative characteristics of the Gnostic mythos. Hence I shall present it here as a suggested collection of criteria that one might apply in determining what Gnosticism is. The following characteristics may be considered normative for all Gnostic teachers and groups in the era of classical Gnosticism; thus one who adheres to some or all of them today might properly be called a Gnostic:


1) The Gnostics posited an original spiritual unity that came to be split into a plurality.

2) As a result of the precosmic division the universe was created. This was done by a leader possessing inferior spiritual powers and who often resembled the Old Testament Jehovah.

3) A female emanation of God was involved in the cosmic creation (albeit in a much more positive role than the leader).

4) In the cosmos, space and time have a malevolent character and may be personified as demonic beings separating man from God.

5) For man, the universe is a vast prison. He is enslaved both by the physical laws of nature and by such moral laws as the Mosaic code.

6) Mankind may be personified as Adam, who lies in the deep sleep of ignorance, his powers of spiritual self-awareness stupefied by materiality.

7) Within each natural man is an "inner man," a fallen spark of the divine substance. Since this exists in each man, we have the possibility of awakening from our stupefaction.

8) What effects the awakening is not obedience, faith, or good works, but knowledge.

9) Before the awakening, men undergo troubled dreams.

10) Man does not attain the knowledge that awakens him from these dreams by cognition but through revelatory experience, and this knowledge is not information but a modification of the sensate being.

11) The awakening (i.e., the salvation) of any individual is a cosmic event.

12) Since the effort is to restore the wholeness and unity of the Godhead, active rebellion against the moral law of the Old Testament is enjoined upon every man.

So, 5), 6), 7), 8), 10) for sure. Maybe 2 - I'm a little rusty on Roundboy Rons weirdo theories. 9) is arguable - these may be the engrams or past life traumas dug up by the e-meter? Bottom line, the Source lifted his theology from an ancient religion, put it in a spaceship and put a "For Sale" sign on it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 4:46 am 
I got up through OT 3, maybe IV (I don't remember, it was years ago...) - and I don't see any special correlation. Maybe even less than you'd see with a religion chosen at random. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 - wouldn't they correlate pretty well with Sufism, or Zen Buddhism? If you've audited thetans (whatever they may be, I sure don't know) I can't imagine how you'd see them in that summary. Don't you have to show that Scientology teachings have *more* in common with Gnosticism than (say) Catholicism? Otherwise you're just observing that human religions have a lot in common.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 8:16 pm 
I agree with Spike. These ideas are common to many religions, and Scientology does not have more in common with Gnosticism than it does with a dozen others.

I'd say Scientology is based on a combination of Fruedian psycoanalysis, Eastern reincarnation/karma theory, Machiaveli, Soviet/Chinese "brainwashing" and Hubbards own science fiction ideas.

Mike


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