The LMT was supposed to help Maria with litagation against the church, but Minton's Italian lawyer in France said he couldn't help her. From what I understand she is virtually destitute.
There was a mention of her as a possible potential witness in the Lisa Civil Case during the current hearing in Florida about the COS trying (with Minton and Brooks) to disqualify or disbar Ken Dandar and kill the Lisa Civil Case.
From Dandar Volume 3, June 4, 2002
THE COURT: And when this was filed, out of
19 curiosity, I had severed the counterclaim so I'm
20 assuming this witness list dealt with the wrongful
22 THE WITNESS: Yes.
23 THE COURT: Okay.
24 MR. WEINBERG: When you say this witness list,
25 you are talking about 150, the April of 2002 --
1 THE COURT: Right, 150.
2 BY MR. WEINBERG:
3 Q If you go to April of 2002, go to witness number
4 10, that is Peter Alexander. He's on the board of directors
5 of the LMT, right?
6 A He was until he was asked to leave.
7 Q Right. But --
8 A Yes.
9 Q Oh -- but he was on the board of directors and he
10 was the producer of The Profit, as well, correct?
11 A Yes.
12 Q And then Number 27, David Cecere, you have listed
13 as a witness this April?
14 A Yes, sir.
15 Q He was affiliated with the LMT. Right?
16 A He was fired by the LMT. Yes.
17 Q He was actually an employee. Correct?
18 A Yes.
19 Q And then on Number 45, Maria Pia Gardini, she was
20 affiliated with the LMT, wasn't she?
21 A I don't think so.
22 Q Well, what is she on there for, by the way?
23 A She is a former --
24 THE COURT: You know what, in a way -- well, I
25 guess we can do this. This is a little free
1 discovery here. We might as well.
2 MR. WEINBERG: I only have a few, I mean --
3 THE COURT: Yes, I don't know who she is,
5 A She's an Italian physician who is a former
6 Scientologist, former staff member at Flag, who has personal
7 knowledge of isolation watches taking place only at the
8 Hacienda, the staffing berthing, in a particular room which
9 is a small room with bars on the windows so no one can
10 leave, and cockroach-infested Hacienda where the staff is
11 berthed. That is why she's on the list.
12 BY MR. WEINBERG:
13 Q Okay, Number 69, Frank Oliver, you say "Former
14 Scientologist." He was affiliated with the LMT. Correct?
15 A You know, I can't say yes or no to that. If it is
16 on the LMT paper, though, I'll go with that. But I don't --
17 I don't --
18 Q Did you ever meet Frank Oliver over at the LMT?
19 A Sure, I did. He picketed. I met him in the
20 offices over there when I dropped in. But he's from Miami,
21 so I can't say what he has to do with the LMT.
22 Q And then '97, you have Teresa Summers again. And
23 at this time, certainly she had been an employee of the LMT,
25 A Yes, but she quit. So she's a disaffected -- if
1 that is the word to use -- LMT member. Former LMT member.
2 Q Then 103, you have Marjorie Wakefield still on
3 there. And she was part of the LMT. Right?
4 A If you say -- I mean, if the document says she
5 was, then, fine, I have no personal recollection.
6 Q Okay.
7 THE COURT: So you listed 109 witnesses, and
8 you have got, golly, "All witnesses identified in
9 depositions, interrogatories, all witnesses on
10 defendant's witness list," then you have 10 experts
11 and one, two, three, four, five, six main defendants
12 associated with LMT.
13 You said you didn't know about Maria Pia
14 Gardini -- sorry, ma'am. I'm sure I said that
16 THE WITNESS: I think you did that right,
18 THE COURT: Did I? Okay. And you aren't
19 positive about Marjorie Wakefield?
20 THE WITNESS: Well, only as -- I am positive if
21 I can either play her video deposition or --
22 THE COURT: No, no, you are not positive if she
23 is connected with LMT?
24 THE WITNESS: That is correct.
25 THE COURT: Okay.
1 THE WITNESS: I mean, the paperwork by LMT will
2 disclose the names of those people.
3 THE COURT: Right. Is it true -- I don't know
4 myself, is this Maria Pia part of LMT? I never
5 heard of her until this very moment.
6 MR. WEINBERG: Well, I'm under the impression
7 that her way was paid by the LMT to bring her from
8 Italy here for purposes of the case.
9 THE COURT: Is she on this list you have here,
10 this all-inclusive list?
11 THE WITNESS: She's on my list.
12 THE COURT: Number 81? No, she's not.
13 MR. WEINBERG: No, she's not 81.
14 THE COURT: How about this other lady?
15 MR. WEINBERG: Marjorie Wakefield, that is what
16 I'm about to hand up.
17 THE COURT: Is she on this, Number 81?
18 MR. WEINBERG: Yes, right here, on the advisory
20 THE COURT: On the advisory committee? Okay.
21 THE WITNESS: Maria Pia Gardini was never
22 brought here for this case, although I did have the
23 opportunity to meet her, but not for this case.
24 THE COURT: Okay. Well, I'm not sure if it
25 matters so much if Ms. Pia Gardini is or isn't, but
1 at least she's not on 81 as a member of the board or
2 advisory committee member.
3 BY MR. WEINBERG:
4 Q By the way, on that April of 2002 list, that is
5 when you first identified Bill Franks as your Scientology
6 expert, correct, April 17, 2002?
7 A That is correct.
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