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U. R. Free:

A minor correction -- Dan Koon did not write the NOTs and Solo
NOTs issues. It was Sue Koon who compiled them. She was on New OT VII at the time (1991). Dan was still on OT III.

Regarding Russ Williams, it is true that he compiled the issues you mention and confessed to altering some things. But keep in mind that the RTRC compiler had to send each compilation through approval lines, which included Snr C/S Int and RTC terminals. These submissions often went back and forth many times. After 1987 all "LRH" issues had to be approved by COB. So a lot more people than Russ were culpable. No way did he manage to get out "off-source" issues all on his own.


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One thing about Vanella is that she is hearing-impaired. She used to have hearing aids
that she hated to wear and so did not wear them.
She could hear a little bit but communicated
mainly by lip reading. She was warmer and more
sensitive than she appeared. The mumbling was to
a large extent her inability to correctly judge
volume when she spoke and also the mispronounced
words of a mostly deaf person. Her upsets often
stemmed from her frustration in communication.


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Hearing aids?
Scientology tech didn't cure her deafness?


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DM's training level is ClassIV....no internship.

He was on the Briefing Course at St Hill at one time but did not finish it. I think he was forced to leave because of his fathers rape case.

His Admin training level is zilch.


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DM's training level is ClassIV....no internship.

He was on the Briefing Course at St Hill at one time but did not finish it. I think he was forced to leave because of his fathers rape case.

His Admin training level is zilch.


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 Post subject: Peter Schless and Bill Brugger on RPF?
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Unleashed wrote:
Does anyone know who went to the PAC RPF from Int recently? Does anyone know how these people are doing: Debbie and Greg Hughes? Peter Schless? Joe and Anna Caneen? Bill Bruger? [sic: Brugger] Sarah Cunningham?


I'm interested in hearing about Bill Brugger, too. As the
CO ASHO Day he was my last senior before I left the Sea
Org. Did you know that prior to his marriage to Shelley
Schill he was married to a lady named Judy? She was the
LRH Comm for ASHO Foundation up until the night she
blew the Sea Org leaving Billy behind.

Peter Schless' ex-wife, Karen, used to have a web site on
the WingsofLoveMinistries.net:

http://tinyurl.com/7rj58

Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
"Scientology: it's about deception."

http://warrior.xenu.ca


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 Post subject: Re: How COB came to be the dominant person in tech
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Lulu_belle wrote:
Posted to ARS by Chuck Beatty.

Comments and input wanted, especially from ex-SO.


Info from former Int Base staffer:


How COB grew to become the dominant
person in the area of tech.

1) Ray took over as Snr C/S Int in about Sept '82.
LRH was extremely complimentary to and about him
in the advices of that time. In technical matters,
no one was senior to Ray except LRH himself.

2) As RTC developed, they formed, under VA [Vicki
Aznaran], the tech unit. Kevin True, Abby Ambron,
Adrienne Ambron, Hansueli Stahli, Nina Paul, Hara
O'Hare, Nicola Corrias. Spike Bush was IG Cram Off.

3) Ray Mitoff was still the top guy in tech matters,
up through the RTC re-org that occurred in early 1987.

4) In '87, DM ousted VA, he busted Jesse Prince,
Spike Bush and most of the tech unit, and became COB
RTC. DM set up the IG, IG Ethics, IG Tech and IG Admin
system, with Greg Wilhere as IG (replacing VA), Marty
Rathbun as IG Ethics, Ray Mitoff as IG Tech and Mark
Yager as IG Admin. Ray Mitoff as IG Tech was still
the top tech person in the movement.

5) Under Ray Mitoff as IG Tech, there was Hansueli
Stahli, Hara O'Hare, Nicola Corrias, and a couple
others. When Ray Mitoff moved up to IG Tech, Jeff
Walker was promoted to Snr C/S Int.

6) Starting in this time period, as tech flaps
occurred, DM as COB RTC increasingly invalidated Ray
Mitoff's handlings (Ray as IG Tech was DM's junior
in RTC). DM began ordering directly directly on
tech matters.

7) In spring of 1990, KTL and LOC were released.
COB pushed the RTC planning calling for at least 3
people sent to ITO (Int Training Org at middle
management, in Los Angeles),. Two main changes were
introduced: all orgs had to send at least 3 people
to the ITO for training to become part of the KTL
delivery team; and
all Scientologists, staff and public, were required to
do KTL as their next action, and in many cases were
put on it in the middle of a course or auditing action
that they had already started. There was intense
effort on the part of the RTC tech staff to get
compliance to programs and orders related to this.

8) While evidently all orgs DID send three
people to the ITO, the tech and qual divisions of
many orgs were to one degree or another unmocked.
Many public complained about HAVING to do KTL. And
if you ever looked at long term delivery stats
internationally, there was a distinct peak in 1990
and a steady downtrend for some years afterwards.

9) Anyway, it became clear that by then DM was
calling many of the shots technically. Then in 1993
the March 13th event was in CW. After the event DM did
inspections at the FSO. The shit hit the fan in
several areas. Because the tech was found to be bad,
Ray was busted back to CMOI, as was MY. RTC was
reorganized. Many, many projects and missions were
sent to the FSO to handle it.

10) Ray had more or less fallen from grace, and
Hara and
Hansueli, who were still in RTC, had now become senior
to Ray, not just administratively but also
technically. Pauline Flood, who had been in Snr C/S
Int Office, was promoted to RTC in some tech capacity,
and even she was in some ways senior to Ray.

11) The '93 FSO fiasco was a typical example of
DM being "overworked" and "the only one who can handle
things." Reportedly at a meeting in the CMO Int
conference room with DM and many CMOI execs after DM
returned to the base from the FSO (where he had been
for several weeks or months), at the beginning of the
meeting he turned to Ray and said something like,
"Ray, I could knock you right through the wall." The
implication was that the "out-tech" that DM had found
at the FSO was appalling and Ray, as IG Tech, should
have handled it or not let it get that way.


[former Int Base staffer]


Good info. I was at FSO when the fiasco was happenning. John Eastment arrived from Int and took over the Snr C/S FSO post. Interrogatory went out to all tech terminals and trainees, O/W Write-ups were ordered and Knowledge Reports were demanded on any out-ethics known about. It was martial law. DM then ordered everybody onto Pro TRs. This was riduculous and it didn't matter if you were doing just fine as an auditor or had pcs interested and willing to talk to you, etc. or not. It was just a big generality that nobody had their TRs in and had to re-do the course. Then, a course that should take 2 weeks, Pro TRs took a year to complete, with all tech staff and trainees struggling to get a video passed. Videos would have to go through Paul Schobel and then up to the RTC Rep Sue Wilhere or Angie Trent and then up to DM for final pass. This line was slower than an injustice appeal line. Weeks and weeks would go by, only to come back "Your TRs are robotic." People were broken on that course. It was suppressively run (surprise.) DM was looking in on sessions with the look-in system at the Fort Harrison at that time and he found flagrant mis-metering, namely F/Ns that didn't exist were being called. I'm not talking about one or two sweeps being called an F/N, people were calling dirty needles F/Ns. DM would confront these auditors as soon as they came out of session with ferocity and throw water on them and tell them they are dry, saying that was what it felt like to be told your needle is floating when it isn't. He was furious. Tech staff were woken up in the middle of the night and bussed down to the Internship to drill metering. A whole fiasco and utter confusion occurred on the entire base. A tech meeting was called and when asked if anyone knew for sure what an F/N was, no one raised their hand. Everyone was confused, because now DM was enforcing a whole new standard of what an F/N is. A whole parade of red tags followed, and not only that, they WEREN'T coming off with subsequent sessions. For the first time in FSO history sessions were going unrepaired over 24 hours because the pc wouldn't F/N at the examiner after the sessions. Some of these pcs were going a week red tagged and FSO was losing its stats each day for the entire HGC as a result. Unusual solutions got implemented to interview the pc and try to get an F/N, then other actions got put in like searching interviews for any psyche background or suicidal thoughts, etc. and finding that they were illegal pcs or non-Flag public and having them routed off still red tagged (but it would be off the books this way and stats could be counted.) This was a period of total chaos on tech lines. DM was RPFing Class XIIs left and right, Comm Evs were flying, Doubt conditions were assigned for any mis-called F/N, even if it was an accident.
If this interests anybody let me know and I'll continue from here. This may be a bit too detailed and boring to you all.


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Please keep going.


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type 4,

I second what Don Carlo said, details are good.


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More! More!


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More. Pleeze! This is very interesting AND original. I've never been a kultist, but, damn, your post is tantalizing! (I think I need to word clear 'tantalizing'.)

Most readers of OCMB - and there are far more readers than posters - hang on new revelations! When you post teasers, you have to eventually post the full feature!

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Okay, here is another installment continuing where I left off.

So at this point, Red Tags were occurring more often than not. The post of Examiner went from the easiest post to hold to the most dangerous. People were booted off that post on a daily basis, and the people who could smile the best and the best looking who wouldn't flub the calling of an "F/N" were searched for. Young pretty girls had the most success :shock: and so were used for the most part. EVERY exam was video'd and watched by top brass, who were no longer doing their post duties but stuck in front of a TV monitor watching F/Ns at the Examiner all day long. Numerous terminals would look at the same exam when their was a dispute if the needle really did float. Auditors who thought their pc F/Ned would find out later that no, it didn't, and they had to take the pc back in session right away. PCs were in an uproar, wins were getting invalidated by this whole process, yet it was all assumed it was because of their prior "bad auditing to no F/N" earlier that was making so much trouble now. The word of DM could not be questioned, it became law and we were all subject to the new standard of what an F/N was. Auditors were dropping like flies. The Captain herself who is a Class IX was called into audit, as was CMO Paul Schobell and Art Webb. They struggled too and didn't last. PCs were having trouble getting past the first step of the session, the rudiments. A present-time problem would come up such as needing to call your spouse, then in order to get an "F/N" since the needle only swept around a couple times, despite the pc feeling ready to get on with the rest of the session, one would have to ask for an ealier and ealier similar problem, ending up going into past lives, all the way back to the ark and beyond. Huge amounts of session time (keep in mind how much it cost, up to a 1,000 dollars an hour) were tied up in just trying to "handle" this present-time problem! PCs would then red tag and things snowballed. A tremendous amount of wasted time and unnecessary repair occurred, and pcs would introvert about why they are having so much trouble (the pc frequently blames himself.) All this from the DM insertion of the huge arbitrary on what an F/N is. This resulted in the huge amounts of drilling "to attain perfection" which IS the "Golden Age of Tech." Auditors didn't know what to do when these F/Ns wouldn't occur and the pc had no more answers, so all sorts of buttons were checked on the earlier similar question which just drove a pc into frustration. PCs were requesting auditor switches all the time. Cramming became non-existent on the flubs, there were too many. Instead, you did your Doubt and Liability condition and DRILLED. Drilled all night. Since nobody had drilled this shit before of checking buttons and following up on meter reads during pc answers, it was "the blind leading the blind." So we got these scripts given to us to drill, word for word, line by line. This led to all the binders and packs of the "Golden Age of Tech."
I'll expand more on that from here soon.


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Hello type 4,

very, very interesting information.

Please keep going!

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Did Miscavige ever demonstrate how to audit "his way?" Or would he have likely failed to follow his own orders perfectly?


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type 4, this is just amazing information. I know from faking F/N's when I was in session that a F/N is arbitrary. I think a F/N has as much to do with how the student communicates as the needle read. I could respond Tone 40 on a dirty needle and it would often be called an F/N by a weak auditor. If COB was invalidating FSO auditors then they would introvert and not know. Factually, no one at Flag was going to Q&A COB.

This all sounds like a power play on DM's part to give himself as much tech authority as LRH. This would allow him to become the top tech terminal in CoS and change the tech. No one is going to challenge DM or ask him for an LRH ref. When he says that the tech is "X" then by God it is "X" and not whatever LRH said.

You have to tell us more type 4. Your data explains a lot of questions I had.

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