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 Post subject: Interview with an OSA revenge picketer
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:35 am 
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Interview of Ex-Scientologist of Tom Gorman
By Arnie Lerma
16 September 2005



Arnie: What was your job called at Scientology in San Francisco?

Gorman: I was an OSA Volunteer

Arnie: What sorts of things would you be called upon to do?

Gorman: To confront and deal with Sps, to handle Sps.

Arnie: When did you do this?

Gorman: 1990 through the beginning of 2000

Arnie: Were there any specific names you called upon to deal with?

Gorman: Kristi Whachter who runs Scientology-lies.com in San Francisco and Peaches Pook in Oakland California.

Arnie: Describe what you did to handle Kristi Whachter

Gorman: I went to her home, to pass out flyers and give them to all her neighbors, so when she came home and came outside she would see her face everywhere saying she was a bigot. When I would see a crowd of people nearby, I would say things like: “you are psychotic�, “You came out of an institution�, “you like to fuck little cats�, “See you later Psycho� to get her angry, so she would look crazy to others. “I know you don’t like men�

Arnie: Describe what you did to handle Peaches

I would talk in a very smart ass voice, tell her she was ugly and old, tell me your crimes peaches, I said: “You are psychotic� “you are crazy� “no one cares about you� “the world would be better without you on it� “You are a bitch� “You are a bigot� “I’m never going to leave until you stop picketing my church� “I’m going to let all your neighbors know what a psychopath you are�

Arnie: Who told you to do and say these things and what did they direct you to say and do?

In my presence, Scientology’s Director of Special Affairs (DSA) of the Office of Special Affairs (OSA) for San Francisco, Church of Scientology who is Jeff Quiros, stated the following:

“Under oath doesn’t mean shit.�

Arnie: Did he say this often?

Mr. Gorman: He said this at least ten times.

Arnie: what else did he say?


Mr. Gorman: Jeff Quiros said that “The court system is just a bunch of WOGs and they are suppressive and that the US government is suppressive�

“The police dept., the FBI and the court system are all suppressive, they are all a bunch of morons and they are down stats and can’t get real jobs. The court system is designed to take any bad down stat (bad person) so they can torpedo an up stat (good person) and bring them down. The Police are a bunch of crooks and especially the FBI. The FBI is the number one terrorist group in the United States�

And then he showed me a written green on white policy by Hubbard that stated this.

Arnie: Did he direct the picketing?

He directed our conduct, yet stressed this: “You cannot tell them I had any involvement, I did not tell you to do any of this, and you don’t even know me� He would remind me of this EVERY time we would picket Kristi or Peaches. Jeff Quiros said, “I could get sued for this. The church would get in a lot of trouble and it would be all your fault�

Arnie: What did he tell you to do or say??

Mr. Gorman: To whisper very mean things into the ear of the person I was picketing whenever there were a group of people coming so that she would react badly in front of the people and look like a psycho-path. He told me to say specifically, “Kristi, you like to fuck little cats� “you practice bestiality� and then we both started laughing.. and to call her “psycho�, because we knew this would get her upset.

Jeff Quiros also told me; “You can do anything to an SP and not get into trouble for it� “A suppressive group is made up of a bunch of SP’s.� He said “Get little kids around the neighborhood to pop the lady’s tires, ruin her plants and break some windows in her house, give them candy for doing these deeds.�

He said: “When the police finally arrive from the picketing, make them believe that we are completely normal people and the people we are picketing are psychotic and paranoid. Be friendly with the police and become their friends, and make them like you.

Arnie: What effect did your efforts have upon the police?

Mr. Gorman: Based on Jeff Quiros instruction to me, I was not just friendly with the police, but I became their friends. I would tell the police that Kristi was a psycho, tell them that she pickets our church…

After a while, the police stopped responding to Kristi and Peach’s telephone calls, when Scientology would harass her at home. But Peaches would call the police every time, after a while the police stopped coming.

Jeff Quiros said: “After 6 times the police come to that location in one week, the police will stop coming because they will believe the person calling them is psychotic and paranoid. He told me if it ever comes to a time when we all have to go to court, not to worry about it because the Scientology lawyers are great and they will tell us how to act and behave and to just do exactly what they say. Lying under Oath is a normal thing for Scientologists because it’s the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics, and we are doing nothing wrong by changing the story since they are suppressive (bad) people and Scientologists are here to save the planet from those people. Then he said “SP’s and suppressive groups hate all organizations that fix peoples lives and help people, and they want to ruin those people and organizations utterly. Scientology is the only organization that does this on the planet�

Mr. Gorman: We became their ‘friends’; they started to believe that she was ‘crazy’
Arnie: Did the police continue to respond?

Mr. Gorman: After they came to Peaches Pook’s home about ten times the police stopped coming…

Arnie: So, would it be fair to say, that this is the one part of scientology that really works?

Mr. Gorman: Yes, it is the only part. He was making fun of Judges in general saying they look like Penguins and how they think they are all mighty and great. He said Judges do their jobs as well as nuns do, and he began to laugh, the joke was, he said that there is no God and so those people serving God don’t do anything anyway.

It was common knowledge that SP’s (Suppressive persons, enemies of scientology) are subject to being tricked, lied to, sued, or destroyed – they have no regard for people outside of Scientology and they believe they can do anything they want to SP’s and not get punished for it because they believe that Scientologists are above the law.

Arnie: Did you do these techniques to anyone else besides Kristi and Peaches?

Mr. Gorman: Yes, a psychiatrist at a hospital in San Francisco, near Funston Street.

Arnie: What was his name?

Mr. Gorman: I never knew his name.

Arnie: How did you know whom to picket?

A; I was shown a picture. Often of two or three different targets, if we would see one of them we would picket them and pass out flyers about how horrible psychiatry is

Arnie: Whom else did Jeff Quiros mention?

Mr. Gorman: Arnie Lerma – the Internet freak that posted the OT levels on the net. He told me that Arnie and a couple others’s dressed up in Sea org member suits and showed a fake order tricking them into giving you the documents.

Arnie: How often would he talk about me?

Mr. Gorman: perhaps ten times, often, I knew your name very well, what else would say about me? He said, “You are psychotic, that you are a criminal, an SP, and sent down to destroy scientology by the psychiatrists.

Arnie: Are there any other enemies of scientology he would mention by name?

A: Bob Minton

Arnie: What did he say about Bob?

Mr. Gorman: That he was money motivated made up a fabricated story about a girl dying which is completely untrue and is trying to get money out of scientology.

Arnie: continue

Mr. Gorman: Gerry Armstrong – Gerry is a pathological liar, one of the biggest SPs around who is trying to destroy scientology. Then he would blabber on about mankind trying to get me all pumped up

Arnie: Any other names mentioned that you recall?

Mr. Gorman: Ford Greene, Jeff said Ford Green is one of the only attorneys willing to take on Scientology but he will be taken care of soon.

Arnie: Thank you – The end.



9:49 PM Friday September 16th 2005, at the
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I hereby swear under penalty of perjury of the laws of The Commonwealth of Virginia, that the forgoing statement is true.

Signed: _____________________ Tom Gorman

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At the Freezone convention, there were some church members who said they were from the FreeZone Survivor's Assn there. They had also picketed the FZ in London maybe a year or so ago.

Since the convention was in a casino/hotel, they couldn't carry any picket signs or anything. So they kind of stood there mutely. They looked just like the lil' Jehovah's Witness guy who sometimes stands at bus stops downtown Seattle mutely holding his Watchtower mag with an air of resignation.

The FZ convention coordinator went out and talked to them before the convention, and after that, they didn't try and come up to anybody. They didn't stay the whole day, either.


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So what is a Freezone Survivor?


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Are they staying in shelters?
Do they need FEMA's help?


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Ball of Fluff, what in the world does your post about the Freezone Convention being picketed at a hotel casino (without signs no less) have to do with Arnie's post about Tom Gorman picketing Kristi and Peaches in the Bay Area in front of their homes WITH nasty signs?

That's it, you can't even pretend to be innocent anymore. You went too far this time. I almost missed this because I did not want to read any more of your drivel.

You are a Ronbot.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:05 am 
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Dear Tom Gorman,

Thank you for coming forward and telling the truth. I too worked for OSA, and did plenty of things I thought were right at the time, but know now were really really wrong.

Don't beat yourself up too much, all of us who understand the cult of scientology are just happy for you that you are free.

I look forward to hearing more of your story, and I hope you will read about what so many of us went through. Also read the main page here on OCMB, as well as Arnies site and all the truth about scientology on so many sites. Googling the names of my friends and other scientologists who disappeared off the lines really helped too.

If I can help you in any way, please PM me or write here.

All my best, Ladybird

PS: Here is a story about an ex OSA that I hope might help.

Google or ask Arnie about who Robert Vaughn Young and Paulette Cooper are, if you don't already know.

Story about Robert Vaughan Young

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From: Paulette Cooper (Author of "The Scandal of Scientology")
Date: 23 Jun 2003 12:36:54 GMT
Subject: Story about Robert Vaughan Young

Several years ago, I spoke at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Association annual convention on the difficulty of writing against cults. Throughout the weekend conference, I was followed and continually harassed by a Scientologist, who shouted while I was on the dais speaking about Scientology, and followed me everywhere, shouting insults, etc.

The Scientologist was Robert Vaughan Young.

Years later, when I came to a.r.s., Bob apologized profusely to me for his egregious behavior when he was a Scientologist, and we became good e-mail buddies. He was a brilliant writer and a caring and compassion human being. He will be missed.

Paulette Cooper


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Ladybird wrote:
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Ball of Fluff, what in the world does your post about the Freezone Convention being picketed at a hotel casino (without signs no less) have to do with Arnie's post about Tom Gorman picketing Kristi and Peaches in the Bay Area in front of their homes WITH nasty signs?


That's a good question. To be honest: I'm not really interested in the FZ convertion but much more in the story of Tom.

May I ask you a question, Tom? (I don't know whether you follow this board but Arnie does, so he could ask you):
How come you woke up? What happened which made it necessary for you to leave the cult?

And thanks a lot for sharing the above information with us !

All the best for you!

James


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james wrote:



May I ask you a question, Tom? (I don't know whether you follow this board but Arnie does, so he could ask you):
How come you woke up? What happened which made it necessary for you to leave the cult?

And thanks a lot for sharing the above information with us !

All the best for you!

James


His girlfriend was raped by one of the "executives" at Scientology San Francisco.

The case was settled, the only "gag' is the amount of cash that Scientology paid the girl to drop the criminal charges.



That's what 'woke' him up.

Tom was a 2nd generation Scientologist. He has deprogrammed his entire family. They are now proud members of the human race.

His story will be webbed soon.

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Arnie,

Thanks for the post about Tom, incredible stuff. Every police dept the bloodsuckers try to buddy up with should get a copy of this and find out how they are really thought of by the culties. Once again the end justifies the means. Bribing kids to commit criminal acts because the target is an SP is ok?

Keep up the good fight!


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Hello Arnie,

Thanks a lot for this information! I'm especially glad to hear that his whole family got out!
This time it's luckily none of these sad cases where some stay in and some leave - and Co$ executes the disconnect.

I'm looking forward to hear more of Tom's story!

At the end: One more crime on the dark bridge to total freakdom...

James


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 Post subject: FreeZone Survivor's Assn is an OSA Op
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Because we were discussing OSA pickets :roll: . The Freezone Survivors Assn is an OSA op. They picketed the FZ in London. ("Went too far". LOL! Yes, it's just awful when someone else discusses some OSA effort they witnessed. AFAIK, most critics are interested in OSA ops and victims of CofS...)

They went to the FZ thing in Reno.

At the London one, they dug up some former psychiatric patient who'd also had FZ auditing. He said he had no connection to CofS, but at the picket, some of the picketers said they were with CofS and knew the guy from London Org.

It's an OSA op. We were discussing OSA and their strategies including picketing.

If I had any interest in writing up the events of the FZ convention, I'd have written "here's what was discussed at the FZ convention and ain't it kewl." Since I didn't, and since I was talking about an obvious op, well...again... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Fluffy said: We were discussing OSA and their strategies including picketing.


"WE" were not discussing anything.

Arnie posted a very important and relevant post by an ex-OSA.

Fluffy immediately attempted to hijack it.

End of story.

Ladybird


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A freezone survivor is an OSA operative?


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The Freezone survivor's assn is an OSA op. It's organized by CofS. They go find people and get them to "DA", so to speak, the FZ.

So since it's an OSA op and we were discussing picketers, seemed somewhat relevant.

http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/scientolog ... ligion.htm

http://www.freezonesurvivors.to/

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.clea ... 5613114cb5


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 Post subject: Picture of Tom Gorman
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:51 am 
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A picture of tom gorman on kirsti whackters website

He is the blond guy handing out flyers on the left

http://www.scientology-lies.com/photos/ ... 9-1600.jpg

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