OT VIII PROJECT WHERE ARE THEY NOW.

Patty Pieniadz · **Joined:** Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:50 am **Posts:** 452

This has been an on going project with me and Kristi Wachter for about 10 years.

This is a list of OT VIII's that were culled from the OT VIII completions lists in Freewinds
Magazine Issue # 1 to Issue # 89 (Dec 1989 to April 2012).

We are missing Freewinds Issue # 72 from 2008, which means the list is incomplete at this time by about 15 names.

I have provided a place to view the list more easily at:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... W5PcHhSWlE

Please read the notes Kristi left concerning the list and also please notice that
there are three tabs at the bottom of the page:

Full list --- tally by year --- and individuals. These tabs give further stats and info about the list.

How you can help.

What I need is for people to post updates here on this thread, on any of the names on this list and then for a couple of people to volunteer to be admins and update the spreadsheet linked above.

If you would like to help with updating of the list, please email me with your gmail account at ppieniadz@gmail.com. I'll authorize you as an admin for the list.

I am looking to find out where these OT VIII's are right now and some info on them.

Still In?
Deceased? and the cause of death if known
Is in Freezone/Indie field?
Is an Ex Scientologist?
Is Declared?
Remarried with new Last name?

As information comes the volunteer admins will update the database at the above link.

Many thanks, hugs and kisses to Kristi and to the anonymous elves that helped with this project! It's a great team effort to get information and I think the end result will be that Scios still in and the media will see some real stats about OT 8 comps.

Hugs,

Patty

Don Carlo · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am **Posts:** 8167

The following I researched in summer 2012 for the Scientology Celebrity Spiderweb, and found strong links to other CoS members and groups, and no evidence they have quit CoS. That included comparing them to the massive list of people who have left, at https://sites.google.com/site/biglistth ... ientology/.
Birth years, more detail, more relationships, and sources at Scientology Celebrity Spiderweb, viewtopic.php?f=9&t=69963

Alan Turbin, co-owner of Nationwide Title Clearing, of the robo-signing scandal.
Barry Shereshevsky, graphic designer, husband of Robin Shereshevsky.
Bob Graves, former CEO of e.Republic, husband of Judy Norton Taylor
Charla Lorch - mother of producer Nathan Lorch
Chick Corea, famous musician
Cindy Feshbach - widow of Joseph Feshbach. Her 3 daughters all in Sea Org, including Jessica Feshbach.
Claire Woodruff - wife of John Woodruff
Craig Jensen founder of Diskeeper.
David Minkoff, doctor, fined for wrongful actions related to Lisa McPherson death.
David Regan, former CoS "staffer," runs art shop with wife Libby Regan
Dee Pearson wife of Donald Pearson
Denice Duff, actress - wife of Michael Duff. Very active; were "squirrel busters" harassing Marty Rathbun.
Dennis McKenna, CEO of e.Republic, has CoS completions in 2012
Don Pearson see Donald Pearson
Donald Pearson, exec at e.Republic
Donna Isham,Pres., Artists for Human Rights - wife of Mark Isham
Edward Goss - in several CoS charities
Elena Cardone - wife of Grant Cardone
Elizabeth Baybak wife of Michael Baybak
Gabi Lanik wife of Hans Lanik
Gay Ribisi, agent, former actress, wife of Al Ribisi, mother of actor Giovanni Ribisi
Gerard Renna, in OSA, is father of actor Patrick Renna
Grant Cardone, author, TV personality, motivational speaker
Hans Lanik, in Florida real estate.
Helen Wisner - wife of R. Michael Wisner. Daughter performance artist Alex Wisner in Celebrity Center article.
Isadore Chait, Asian antique dealer, confronted Marty Rathbun recently.
James Krebsbach, father of Keesha Kresbach, who works at CoS front Mad Hatter Studios
Jim Meskimen, voice actor, very active
Joan Sigal, leader of several Clearwater CoS-linked charities.
John Hillman, CEO at Nationwide Title, founded by wife's father Ike Kezsbom.
John Woodruff, was in Foreclosure Assistance Solutions scandal, John's highly successful Orange County org was looted and destroyed by Miscavige; John has two sons in Sea Org.
Jon Coale, lawyer - husband of Greta Van Susteren
Judy Norton (Taylor) Graves, actress - wife of Bob Graves
Karen Renna, represenative for actors, wife of Gerard Renna
Kathy Feshbach - wife of Matt Feshbach
Laurie Dohring - wife of Doug Dohring
Libby Regan, formerly Libby Weigand, tried to blackmail cousin Senator Thomas Eagleton, Libby is now wife of David Regan
Libby Weigand, see Libby Regan
Liz Baybak, see Elizabeth Baybak
Lucinda Feshbach, see Cindy Feshbach.
Maryann O'Donnell - wife of Kevin O'Donnell co-founder of EarthlinkMatt Feshbach, Short trader, opening stem cell clinic in Bahamas. One daughter, Katie Feshbach Tisi, in Sea Org.
Matthew Feshbach, see Matt Feshbach
Michael Duff, musician - husband of Denice Duff
Michael Wisner - professional name is R. Michael Wisner; author and activist promoting Purification Rundown for environmental toxins.
Moshon Reuveni, real estate professional; adult sons heavily into CoS
Nancy Daley - wife of R.F. Daley
Noel North Norris - voice actress, kept picketing kids out of sandwich shop
Norm Novitsky, founder Nationwide Title
Raven Campbell aka Raven Kane, singer/songwriter, wife of David Campbell, step-mother to Beck
Renate Helnwein - wife of artist Gottfried Helnwein and mother of four artsy Scientologist adult children.
Robin Shereshevski, store manager for Kirstie Alley's Organic Liaison diet business, - wife of Barry Shereshevsky
Scott Snow - prob. father of Buck Snow who is colleague of Chick Corea
Sheila Gaiman, owner of G & G Vitamins, widow of David Gaiman, mother of writer Neil Gaiman
Stan Gerson see Stanley Gerson
Stanley Gerson,in real estate, father of two adult sons in CoS
Star Hillman, daughter of Ike Kezsbom, wife of John Hillman
Scot Weigand - former husband of Libby Regan.
Tamra Meskimen - wife of Jim Meskimen
Terri Novitsky, Mission Holder for Malibu, Calif. Scientology mission - wife of Norm Novitsky

Tunes · **Joined:** Thu May 10, 2012 3:18 pm **Posts:** 10

Can this list be viewed anywhere else? I'm trying to bring the list up and it freezes each time I do.

Cheers,
Tunes...

Don Carlo · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am **Posts:** 8167

The following people on the OT 8 list have died:
David Gaiman
Ike Kezsbom
Joe / Joseph Feshbach
Loretta Miscavige d. 2005

The following have left:
Maria Pia Gardini
Michael Pattison

Scott Weigand was not the Scott Weigand who went to prison for child porn; so sorry. Scott was the ex-husband of Libby Weigand, now Libby Regan, and I saw no evidence he has left CoS.

Demented LRH · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:48 am

Michael Pattison’s story could be found on the Internet. He had reached OT 8 level, but still remained gay. Currently he is suing CoS.

Smurf · **Joined:** Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:10 am **Posts:** 2681

Demented LRH wrote:

Michael Pattison’s story could be found on the Internet. He had reached OT 8 level, but still remained gay. Currently he is suing CoS.

Wrong again, DLRH. Please stop posting comments until you've fact-checked them. Michael sued in 2003. The case went nowhere & was dropped.

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/pattinson1.htm

secularpatriot · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:23 pm

Smurf wrote:

Please stop posting comments until you've fact-checked them. Michael sued in 2003. The case went nowhere & was dropped.

Saying the case "went nowhere" makes it sound like the case had no merit, which is absolute nonsense. Scientology fair-gamed Michael Pattinson and buried him in counter-suits until he had no money:

"By 2000 I had to dismiss the case against Scientology, not because it had no merit, as it had tons of merit and the cult knew it. I had to dismiss it because I had no more funding. By that time I had lost my home, my bank account, credit, job, career as an artist, clients and case, pretty much all due to "Fair Game" tactics. Not only was the playing field not level, it was like a cliff face with Scientology's lawyers standing on a mountain of defrauded monies throwing heavy objects down on us below. They did not want to litigate the case as they knew they would lose it heavily; so they decided to destroy the plaintiff and his lawyer's personal lives to 'win'."

http://exscn.net/content/view/75/101/1/12/

Smurf · **Joined:** Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:10 am **Posts:** 2681

secularpatriot wrote:

Saying the case "went nowhere" makes it sound like the case had no merit, which is absolute nonsense.

You're entitled to your your misinterpretations, which is why most people ignore you.

Roan · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:16 am

Here is Yvonne Prince, Orange County Ideal Org IAS Patron and a double loser (she has done OTVIII ...twice!?! )

She has been regged heavily to pay for the boondoggle that is the OC Ideal Org and she has ponied up. To such an extant that she thinks she owns the place! lol

I ran into her at the coffee shop the other day and she "commanded" me with her best Tone 40 Intention never to darken the door of "her church" again! http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=71959

She glared at me, attempting to disintegrate me with her OT powerz, but the fact that I'm posting this here today is proof positive that there are no OT's in Scientology... only an asthmatic dwarf!

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Smurf · **Joined:** Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:10 am **Posts:** 2681

Roan wrote:

Here is Yvonne Prince, Orange County Ideal Org IAS Patron and a double loser (she has done OTVIII ...twice!?! )

[b][size=150]She has been regged heavily to pay for the boondoggle that is the OC Ideal Org and she has ponied up. To such an extant that she thinks she owns the place! lol

Sorry, the red hair doesn't obscure her age.. 65. Sad she's not on Facebook like her husband, Marty, or daughter, Annika.

https://www.facebook.com/marty.prince.39

https://www.facebook.com/annika.prince.9

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Californ ... 73000.aspx

I'mglib · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 4980

secularpatriot wrote:

Smurf wrote:

Please stop posting comments until you've fact-checked them. Michael sued in 2003. The case went nowhere & was dropped.

Saying the case "went nowhere" makes it sound like the case had no merit, which is absolute nonsense. Scientology fair-gamed Michael Pattinson and buried him in counter-suits until he had no money:

"By 2000 I had to dismiss the case against Scientology, not because it had no merit, as it had tons of merit and the cult knew it. I had to dismiss it because I had no more funding. By that time I had lost my home, my bank account, credit, job, career as an artist, clients and case, pretty much all due to "Fair Game" tactics. Not only was the playing field not level, it was like a cliff face with Scientology's lawyers standing on a mountain of defrauded monies throwing heavy objects down on us below. They did not want to litigate the case as they knew they would lose it heavily; so they decided to destroy the plaintiff and his lawyer's personal lives to 'win'."

http://exscn.net/content/view/75/101/1/12/

Good point. Love your posts.

Wieber · **Joined:** Tue May 23, 2006 10:57 pm **Posts:** 8449

If someone does OT-8 twice does that make them OT-16? He asked, rhetorically.

Don Carlo · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am **Posts:** 8167

As of July 30, 2012 these people need an update:
Barbara Santos is listed as mother of Mike Rinder, but may be instead Barbara Schneider Santos, a well-off public member who supports a Haitian orphanage, https://www.facebook.com/barbara.schneider.7965

Barbara Wiseman, President of The Earth Organization,http://www.earthorganization.org/whoweare.aspx?CatID=4

Barry Shereshevsky, graphic designer, owns Shereshevsky Advertising, http://www.slatkinfraud.com/inv_2001_4b.htm

Bob Graves, husband of Judy Norton Taylor, is founder of Int'l Academy of Detox, http://www.utah-detox.org/home/steering ... es-ms.html

Carl Rohrig looks like Carl-W. Röhrig, German artist, born 1953, http://www.carlwroehrig.com/carl-w-roehrig/biography/

Charla Lorch is mother of actor Nathan Lorch; Nathan's birth record shows her maiden name Charla S. Grossman; Charla is divorced from Nathan's father Daniel Lorch, who is CEO of Veterans Detoxification Project, http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/ ... 93796.aspx

Chick Corea has no news of quitting.

Chris Gerson is listed once as Chris Gerson and once as Christine Gerson on the OT VIII list. She is the "in care of" person for Ability Academy in San Marcos, Calif., http://www.faqs.org/tax-exempt/CA/Abili ... z1SqQa6KSZ wife of Jonathan Gerson

Cindy Feshbach - widow of Joseph Feshbach. Her 3 daughters are all in Sea Org, including Jessica Feshbach.

Claire Woodruff is wife of John Woodruff, of Foreclosure Assistance Solutions scandal, and mother of two sons in Sea Org, (1) Shane Woodruff, VP Celebrity Centre and (2) Todd Woodruff.

David Gaiman is dead, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gaiman

Dee Pearson is the wife of eRepublic exec Don Pearson; their daughter Pavaune links to Scientology groups, http://www.causes.com/profiles/6758249

David Slaughter - no news of him leaving the Memphis mission that he and Benetta Slaughter run, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennetta_Slaughter . It would be huge news if they quit, because of the Lisa McPherson scandal.

Don Pearson = Donald Pearson, CEO of eRepublic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Pearson

I hope someone can add these to the list at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... SWlE#gid=0
And, don't forget the names I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread. If this info gets posted, I'll add links and more names.
I'm not going to that list directly; I already have too many databases to maintain.

JohnnyRUClear · **Joined:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:05 am **Posts:** 4

Don Carlo wrote:

I hope someone can add these to the list at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... SWlE#gid=0
And, don't forget the names I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread. If this info gets posted, I'll add links and more names.
I'm not going to that list directly; I already have too many databases to maintain.

Message from WWP:

Quote:

In this thread OCMB-user Don Carlo posted helpful info, adding he would post even more if what he had already posted was put into the Google-spreadsheet initially made by Pooks.

The latter has been done: https://whyweprotest.net/community/...w ... st-2157686

I believe you have an account on OCMB.

Could you please add a post to the OCMB thread so Don Carlo keeps on posting his info?

So... ker-post.

Don Carlo · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am **Posts:** 8167

Thanks, Johnny,
I will be working on it in the next week.

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