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 Post subject: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:03 am 
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"David Miscavige's mother-in-law, Mary Florence "Flo" Barnett, died from four rifle shots, three to the chest and one to the head. Originally classified as a "suicide," upon closer inspection it was determined from the ballistics and the height of Ms. Barnett that the wounds could not have been self-inflicted. Evidence was collected that just one week prior to her death, Ms. Barnett had threatened to sue the Church, and was in contact with David Mayo, a former member who was an avowed enemy of David Miscavige."

I've read a lot of things about the Church on yours and other sites, but this one really horrified me. Was there ever an investigation? I couldn't believe this story. What are we dealing with here? So sinister.


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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Do you have a link to the article?

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:42 pm 
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There's a lot of info right here on xenu.net.

http://www.xenu-directory.net/victims/barnett1.html

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
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I thought that she died recently. But that was long time ago; I do not think that LAPD are planning to reopen the investigation.

Being a prostitute is much better than being OT -- you take money from your clients, you do not spend your money on auditing!! Good choice, Ms. Miscavige!

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:10 am 
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And where is Shelly Miscavige? After reading Marc Headley's book, I feel now that anything is possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:05 am 
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Hi barbiedoll, welcome to OCMB. I'm pretty new to the board too. When I have free time, I read the old threads and they are very informative. You'll find everyone here very helpful in helping us newbies.

That story about Flo Barnett is very disturbing. I couldn't believe it either that it was ruled a suicide. There's too many untimely deaths with this cult.

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:26 am 
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Flo's husband, Jim P. Miller, who was initially suspect by police being involved in her death, died in 2006. Her daughter, (Mary) Camille Barnett, who is identified in the autopsy report is at Gold Base.

http://www.xenu-directory.net/mirrors/w ... roner.html

Camille was married to John Brosseau, who has blown the cult, and provided an arsenal of dox.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... p?page=all

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... ge_dea.php


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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:09 am 
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I've never heard this before (from the Fishman affidavit):

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Furthermore, one of David Miscavige's sisters had committed suicide after completing OT VII. Another sister left the church and became a prostitute after starting the OT levels.


Anyone know if Miscavige had a sister who committed suicide? If so, this is news to me.


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Father: Ronald Thomas Miscavige, Sr. (staff musician for Scientology)
Mother: Loretta Miscavige (accountant for Greta Van Susteren's law firm)
Sister: Denise Miscavige Licciardi
Sister: Lori Miscavige Vernuelle
Brother: Ronald Thomas Miscavige, Jr.
Wife: Michele Diane Miscavige ("Shelly")



http://www.nndb.com/people/212/000092933/

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:28 am 
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barbiedoll, I don't know if you've ever heard Eric Rubio's story. It's a painful one which ends with another unfortunate death at the hands of $cientology Inc. Here's a link for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReZYMm7vxck

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:18 am 
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barbiedoll wrote:
And where is Shelly Miscavige? After reading Marc Headley's book, I feel now that anything is possible.

People tend to think she's alive but somewhere without any interaction with the outside world.

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 Post subject: Committing suicide with a long weapon
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Is impossible! Your arms can't reach the trigger and hold the gun straight. And you don't want to partially miss!

During WWII Japanese soldiers were in a cultlike environment and told to commit suicide rather than surrender to US troops in places like the South Pacific.

US troops found the suicide victims after they took the caves the Japs were hiding in. The dead bodies had strings tied from their big toes to the triggers so they could commit suicide with the only weapons they had, rifles and shotguns.

All the troops who killed themselves did it for nothing. The government had lied to them and told them the American's killed POWs and would kill the emperor (who is like LRH in this story).

The only way you can really get people to do what you want is to lie to them. I would think getting someone to kill themselves would be the toughest convincing job of all.


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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
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I'mglib wrote:
I've never heard this before (from the Fishman affidavit):

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Furthermore, one of David Miscavige's sisters had committed suicide after completing OT VII. Another sister left the church and became a prostitute after starting the OT levels.


Anyone know if Miscavige had a sister who committed suicide? If so, this is news to me.
It's not true. This was one of many examples that the cult raised in their arguments in the 'Church of Scientology v. Steve Fishman & Uwe Geertz' lawsuit, to show Fishman was not being entirely untruthful.

DM's only twin sister, Denise Gentile, was never a prostitute and she is very much alive.


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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:31 pm 
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Good work on the Mary Florence Barnett findagrave. I found more about her daughters, with links to the free familysearch Texas birth records:

Mary Clarisse Barnett Brousseau, in the Sea Org. Born 18 Sep 1956, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VDF3-5B7
Metarie Lynn Barnett, died in infancy. Born 13 May 1958, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VDFL-6J8 . Died 14 May 1958, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K33B-KX7
Shelly Miscavige, wife of David Miscavige. Born Michele Diane Barnett, 18 Jan 1961, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V67S-FP3 .
Marie Camille "Camille" Barnett Griffin, born 1 Oct 1962, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VDCX-B9H . Camille is married to Jeff R. Griffin born 1960. His name and birth year from living at the same address in Ancestry.com as "Camille M. Griffin/Camille M. Barnett" born 1 Oct 1962.



http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... =97790675&

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:29 am 
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Smurf wrote:
I'mglib wrote:
I've never heard this before (from the Fishman affidavit):

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Furthermore, one of David Miscavige's sisters had committed suicide after completing OT VII. Another sister left the church and became a prostitute after starting the OT levels.


Anyone know if Miscavige had a sister who committed suicide? If so, this is news to me.
It's not true. This was one of many examples that the cult raised in their arguments in the 'Church of Scientology v. Steve Fishman & Uwe Geertz' lawsuit, to show Fishman was not being entirely untruthful.

DM's only twin sister, Denise Gentile, was never a prostitute and she is very much alive.


DM has another sister Lori who is married and still in the Co$. Last name Venulle? Or similar????

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 Post subject: Re: Mary Florence Barnett
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Lori Miscavige Verneuille is on the Scientology Celebrity Spiderweb under her brother 1960 David Miscavige. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=69963


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