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 Post subject: Exes feedback req: Has the cult ever witheld your passport?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:17 am 
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On WWP, in light of the Freewinds imprisonment news story this week about Valeska Paris Guider's ordeal, there's now a working thread up today on testimonies of scientologists having their passports confiscated by the cult.
If you have a personal story of you own, including witnessing it happen to someone else then please do post details, either on the WWP thread or post them here and I'll copy them over there.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/ex-church-of-scientology-members-passport-confiscation-testimonies.97105
RightOn, posting on WWP, wrote:
There are many testimonies from ex members of the Church of Scientology claiming their passports were confiscated by Scientology while they were under their employ. These testimonies are scattered all over the internet.

It is good to have them all in one place which will make it easier for media, reporters, journalists and hopefully authorities to access and reference this information easily.

Ex members can feel free to post their short story, interview, videos or testimony ect. here or PM someone to do it for you.

If you are an ex and are publically out, it is best if you use your actual name to keep the list more credible.


If you find anything on the web then check out the wwp thread to see what has already been found and posted so far.

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 Post subject: Re: Exes feedback req: Has the cult ever witheld your passpo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:37 am 
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Sponge ~~

I do not post on WWP.
But I could not resist chipping in here to post my Passport /Apollo story::::


My passport was invalid because it had expired. Passports were needed, especially for Missions to various countries.

On arrival on the Apollo, before anything, the "Port Captain" Sea Org member confiscated the passport.

My passport was previously British (Now US) The Port Captain Office called to tell me I needed to get a new one briefed me thoroughly on what to say to the British Embassy.
I was to avoid any mention of Scientology. In the continuing THEM vs US culture, I we were slowly educated that the WOG world was evil and bad and and one kept all secrets within.

I was told I had to return with a valid passport in 3 hours.

Problem was in the islands we were at there was no British Embassy. We were in the Caribbean ~~~ agricultural Islands with few Embassies. And the more advanced Islands such as Aruba and Curacao were Dutch Colonies, not British.

Finally we arrived in Jamaica, a former British Colony with a British Embassy.

I saw an attache and gave the story of "OTC" ~~ I was on a ship called "Operation Transport Corporation" a Business Management training ship.

Unfortunately, the British Embassy knew all about the Apollo and did not buy any of my story. I was shuffled to different probing staff and looked at with magnifying glasses. I knew the Embassy wanted a lot for info on the Apollo.

I stuck to my story.

Finally, I blurted a plea for a temporary passport as I would be going to London the following month and could get it all squared away in the UK. I would pay the extra *RUSH* /URGENT Fee.

Who knows what they were doing in the background? What telexes, what phone calls they made ?
I was at the Embassy for 6 hours, I kid you not.

Finally, I was issued a temporary British Passport valid for 60 days. Notes on the Apollo were handwritten inside the passport.

I fled the Embassy, took a taxi to the dock.

The Apollo had gone !!!!!!

The Apollo had set sail without me... (Later I found out that the berthing of the Apollo was opposite a chemical factory belching out poisonous fumes which were affecting the lungs of Apollo crew and especially LRH so the order was to leave.)

If you could imagine what it is like, to stand on a dock, in an island in the middle of nowhere with nothing in the world except some few bucks with one's home, one's dwellings, ones friends vanished into thin air.

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I felt very alone as I stood on the dock, staring into the setting sun. I had absolutely nothing with me to survive, not even $$$ for a hotel.

My home, my berthing, my belongings, my post, my world had vanished. I stared at the Ocean ahead, standing on the dock, it was a feeling of disbelief, yet tracking in some other time zone !

To be continued......

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 Post subject: Re: Exes feedback req: Has the cult ever witheld your passpo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:16 am 
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^Thanks. Cross-posted to WWP. If at all possible could you try to give at least a rough idea the dates of key events in your account.

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 Post subject: Re: Exes feedback req: Has the cult ever witheld your passpo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:17 am 
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Apollo Story Continued..... Part 2

Sponge ~~ First response would be 1974 ~~ the latter half ? Maybe early 1975 ?
circa 1974/75


Well, after the 6 hours at the British Embassy with interrogation and cross-examination, I returned to the Harbor in Jamaica...and the Apollo was gone !

I had been through this before in Madeira.. the island off Spain. But the ship had only pulled out out of Funchal and was very visible. We were put in little ferries to get back to the Apollo. This time is was complete vanishment.

I stared into the horizon to see if I can spot any ship on the horizon. There was none. I could not fathom how this could be.

Grasping at straws I told myself "must be Sea Trials". We had recently done a dry dock.

Sea Trials are mandatory after a Dry dock. Sea trials are conducted to measure a vessel’s performance and general seaworthiness. Dry Dock is repairs and maintenance on a ship to get it ready for more sea voyages. The ship is taken out of the water and into a DRY DOCK to repair the hull and all the checklist of service maintenance.

Sea Trials often consist of a ship spinning round and round in circles so as not go too far away from Port. It just verifies that the Ship can depart for the high seas in good shape.

But there was no ship.
The sun was setting. I had a 60 day passport and maybe $15 in my pocket m (they had charged a lot extra at the Embassy for so-called "Rush/Urgent Service" for the passport ~~ even though the Embassy was empty with almost no visitors and no work occurring)

For some annoying reason I kept getting a repetitive line in my head from the Rolling Stones hit

Its so very lonely
You're 100 light years from home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drwM5jQvrpU

I tried to collect my thoughts. The Port Captain clearly knew I had left the ship. The Quarter Master (QM) clearly logged me as off on shore. It made no sense.

The schedule of where the Apollo would be for the next 2-3 weeks was always issued in our in-baskets. I tried to recall which was the next port. I drew a blank. I could not even recall if Jamaica was the last port on the last issue.

Harbormaster, I needed to find the Harbormaster. This is the official in charge of the port, the security of the harbor and the correct operation of the port facilities. He would have knowledge of whence a ship came from (Inbound) and where it was going (Outbound).

The harbor was empty. As a general rule, ships were berthed one after another in a line like a taxi waiting queue. No ships, weird.

I was almost unable to take my eyes off the ocean and horizon. I walked along the harbor to see if I could locate a Harbor master's office. The sun sets so much faster further south. The sun was going down quickly.

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I felt a tension and a stress but no one would know. I determined to put out an outward face of calm to the Harbormaster.

Damn it ! The repetitive Rolling Stones line continued in my head in action replay ~~


Its so very lonely
You're 100 light years from home


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drwM5jQvrpU

I walked some 50 yards and walking towards me was a WONDERFUL sight ! Another Apollo Crew member ! Whew ! What a sense of comfort. We exchanged stories. He had been out on a purchasing/logistics cycle.
Then another Apollo Crew ! Then another ! 4 of us were now a TEAM, A GANG. Between us, we had funds for a hotel for the night. Boy did we feel a sense of camaraderie and mutual experience....
We could not Telex the Apollo. But we could phone FOLO EUS (New York Sea Org Base) to give our location and get instructions (these days were prior Emails and Internet !)

We got back to the Apollo in 24 hours. Later I heard from a messenger that LRH had heard all about our Adventure and how we made it back. He was very pleased. The old saying applied. "You could take Apollo away from its crew, but you could not take the Crew away from the Apollo."....

We all come from different positions and different viewpoints and time track. I have heard the Apollo Stories, even on this board. I acknowledge that others had other experiences, but I can only state what is true for me. My Apollo Time track was one the happiest, most thrilling, most adventurous, most exciting, most action-filled than any time of my life. I could not have wished for a happier time.

I acknowledge that others had pain and suffering. I am sorry that occurred. It did not happen to me on the Apollo.

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 Post subject: Re: Exes feedback req: Has the cult ever witheld your passpo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:32 am 
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I have no real story to tell other than to corroborate the fact that you cannot have access to your passport unless the Freewinds chooses to do so. Every trip I made to the ship was frightening because you could not leave without routing out and could not route out without completing a course (your return trip tickets do not matter to them) and you cannot get your passport until the routing form is completed with an acceptable success story.


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