Interesting stuff, thanks for posting it...

I had heard long ago about Manson's supposed dealings with the Process - which was a Scientology offshoot. Do you have any documentation linking to that?

I was just sitting down this evening to read Peter Lavenda's book

If there was an e-meter at the Spahn ranch, it's possible to identify the owner by the serial number on the meter.

Chances are it was a stolen meter.

Misinformation about The Process:

The Process held to a unique theology which worshipped God while loving Satan. Being an open and proselytizing religious organization, they were exposed to criticism by other Christians. Having such an unorthodox response to Satan, they were easily misunderstood.

A book about Charles Manson, "The Family", claimed that Manson was a member of The Process. The Church obtained apologies and retractions to the book after it brought about a suit against the publisher. Because of the time it took to bring about the retractions, a large portion of book sales had occurred; so many of the books (without retractions) are on shelves today. The connection between Manson and the Process has not completely been corrected. Manson was never a registered member of The Process. A group of Processeans visited him in prison and confirmed that he had never been involved in the local Chapter.

Arnie wrote:


I'm picking that up tomorrow, along with BarefacedMessiah.

Anymore book recs Arnie? Anyone? I already have A Piece of Blue Sky on backorder...

Arnie,

Manson had very little to do with Scientology but any nutcase (like Manson) could claim this.

I am no apologist for CofS (to say the least) but using Manson's notorious character is not a good thing. Scientology did not make Manson into the way he was.

From: http://www.shipbrook.com/jeff/CoS/docs/manson.html
GS-C Comm
GS-G 22 June 70
D/G Intell U.S.
Dear Mary Sue, COMPLIANCE REPORT RE: MANSON, BRUCE DAVIS There have been numerous new developments on this case and they are as follows.

An individual by the name of Steve Grogen appeared on our lines (PM). I received word that he had made statements that he was a member of Mansons family and therefore started some intell.

action, which at first consisted of talking to the girls he had been in contact with. By the time I had finished talking to them Grogen had been put away in jail for car theft. In spite of numerous efforts on our part it was impossible to get together with him. I had the girl he seemed to be most in comm with, journey out to the valley on four different occasions to talk to him and in spite of our best efforts he was never made available. He was either "in court" or the jail was undergoing extensive re- decoration. Of course we did not want it known that a member of The Church was trying to see him. At the same time this was going on we received word that two members of the Manson Family "squeeky Frome" and "Sandy Goode" were staying at the Viking Motel on 3rd and Alverado which is in close proximity to the org. We made no efforts to contactthem.

On 18 June 80 the following report was received by me.

Report of interview with Raul Morales, Re: Charles Manson.

According to Raul: Raul arrived in prison on McNeil Island, Washington in 1962 and became a cell mate of Lafayette Raimer allegedly a trained Scientology auditor (about Level I in Raul's estimation) and was introduced to Scientology at that time. Raimer was auditing in prison at that time and in one 10 man cell had managed to gather a group of about 7, all in Scientology. Charles Manson entered later and studied, did TRO etc. along with his cell-mates and received approximately 150 hours of auditing from Raimer. Processes used were CCH's, Help processes (Who have you helped-Who have you not helped) and other Dichotomy processes (Rauls terms, such as What can you confront, what would you rather not confront), Havingness (Such as "What can you have?" "Look around and find something you can have. Look around and find something you're not in." Rainer kept recor records of his auditing. Manson got super-energetic & flipped out when he'd been audited and would, for a time, talk about nothing but Scientology to the extent that people avoided his company. After a while, however, Manson was screaming to get away from his auditor (in Raul's opinion, he'd been severely over-run or something). He eventually managed to get put in solitary confi- nement to get away from his auditor. Eventually prison officials got suspicious of the groups strange activities and broke up the group. Subsequently, Raul was released from the prison in 1965.

Raimer's wife was in training here at the L.A. Org in 1965-66; she had disconnected from Raimer. Raul just found out yesterday that another friend, Marvin White, later sent Manson books (after the Scientology group was broken up) on hypnotism and black magic,

From: �Anti-Cult� - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/ <The.Galactic.Federation@ThePentagon.com>
Subject: More on Charles Manson as a Scientologist.
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 01:00:42 +0100
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From: http://www.b-org.demon.nl/scn/deaths/uwc/helter.txt
From Bugliosi HELTER SKELTER -- page 647 On November 21, 1969, the bodies of James Sharp, fiften, and Dorren Gaul, nineteen, were found in an alley in downtown Los Angeles. The two teen-agers had been killed elsewhere with a long-bladed kniife or bayonet, then dumped there. Each had been stabbed over fifty times.

Ramparts division Leiutenant Earl Deemer investigated the Sharp-Gaul murders, as did Los Angeles Times reporter Cohen. Although the two men felt there was a good possibility that a Familty member was involved in the slayings, the murders remain unsolved.

Both James Sharp and Doreen Gaul were Scientologists, the latter a Scientology "clear" who had been residing in a Church of Scientology house. According to unconfirmed reports, Doreen Gaul was a former girl friend of Manson Family member Bruce Davis, himself an ex-Scientologist.

Davis' whereabouts at the times of the murders of Sharp, Gaul and Jane Doe 59 are not known. He disappeared shortly after being questioned in connection with the death of Zero.

On December 1, 1969, Joel Dean Pugh, husband of Family member Sandy Good, was found with his throat slit in a London hotel room. As noted, local police ruled the death a suicide. On learning of Pugh's demise, Inyo County DA Frank Fowles made official inquiries, specifically asking Interpol to check visas to detrmine if one Bruce Davis was in England at the time.

Scotland Yard replied as follows: "It has been established that Davis is recorded as embarking at London airport for the United States of America on 25th April 1969 while holding United States passport 612 2568. At this time he gave his address as Dormer Cottage, Felbridge, Surrey. This address is owned by the Scientology Movement and houses followers of this organization."
From Paulette Cooper THE SCANDAL OF SCIENTOLOGY p105 Another bit of publicity that the Scientologists are probably not too pleased with concerns the murder of three people in Los Angeles. Two were Scientologists.

According to *The New York Post*, all three were brutal- ly beaten, ritualistically stabbed, had their right eyes cut out, and were dumped 100 yards from a Scientology commune. One of the girls, Miss Doreen Gaul, nine- teen, who came from New York to study Scientology, was naked except for a strand of Indian beads. The boy, James Sharpe was fifteen years old. The third was un- identified. Doreen Gaul's father allegedly told a *New York Post* reporter that she had lately become disen- chanted with Scientology.

She was not the only one. For the past fourteen years, John McMasters, the first Scientology clear, ap- pears to have been groomed by Hubbard to take his place when he dies. McMasters recently wrote a letter to Hubbard, and sent copies to "suppressives" and Scientology enemies. Although McMasters declared that "I shall never withdraw my allegiance to Ron or Scientology" he announced that he was leaving Hub- bard's ships to spread Scientology in Africa, because of his "horror at what such people on the Sea Org could do to mankind." He criticized Hubbard and Scientology for their "savage and vicious ethics" and seemed partic- ularly disturbed over the death of the three Los Angeles teen-agers. Their deaths may have partially precipitated McMasters' decision to dissociate himself from certain aspects of Scientology. "Somehow we are violating our basic ethics for such things to happen to us," he wrote. "These last two ghastly murders of our students, one of whom is a clear, need never have hap- pened if we hadn't been mocking up [making] enemies so solidly." - Page 105

Scientology played an important part in the lives of Charles Manson and Bruce Davis. There is documented evidence regarding the teachings of Scientology to Manson even while he was incarcerated during the 1950's. It is reported Charles Manson reached the level "Clear" and was rather astute in his adaptation of control and manipulation techniques when dealing with other people. Manson used Scientology to answer questions with Diane Sawyer during the ABC television broadcast. Manson often expressed the concept of living in the "Now" and that term was used to describe the murder of Shorty Shea, when the killers said "It was hard to bring Shorty to Now".

Bruce Davis was an emissary for Manson when he traveled to England to work out problems between The Process and Scientology. Davis denied to the BBC reporter Bill Murphy that he ever traveled to Manchester England, despite the fact witnesses saw him there. Murphy had an acquaintance who actually witnessed Bruce Davis traveling around Manchester with a coven of witches.

Murder victims Doreen Gaul and James Sharp were deeply involved in the Church of Scientology and it was documented James Sharp conducted instruction to Doreen Gaul the night of her murder. He was taking Ms. Gaul to the level "Clear" and Gaul was also working on Engrams at the time of her murder. Bruce Davis lived in the same communal residence as Doreen Gaul while he was very active in Scientology. The owner of the residence was The Church of Scientology.

Just prior to the murder of Doreen Gaul, she made a telephone call to her father asking for an airplane ticket home. Mr. Gaul told Doreen he would send her a round trip ticket. She responded that it should be a one way ticket. Said Gaul to her father, "I think this stuff is all a bunch of crap." She was leaving the Church of Scientology and that fact was documented by a friend of Doreen Gaul who resided in New York who had offered her a job. For whatever reason, The Church of Scientology has played a very important part in the Manson saga. The Church of Scientology even offered a reward for the arrest and conviction of the person/persons responsible for the murder of Doreen Gaul and James Sharp.

Susan Atkins stated that a "man" use to come up to Golar Wash and have meetings with Manson. "I believe he was with The Church of Scientology" said Atkins. Paul Crockett, Paul Watkins and other Manson family associates spoke of the influence of Scientology on Manson. Best Selling author Ed Sanders made some statements about Scientology and The Process Church in his first edition of THE FAMILY. Legal action caused Sanders to remove that portion of his book in the subsequent editions. Scientology is an important part of the Manson story.