Dear Mr. Lerma,

Great stuff on Wilkes. My own G-G-G-G-G Grandaddy was a Captain under George Washington and amongst those serving at the crossing the Delaware (as in that famous painting). His name was John. None of us are very fond of King George, regardless of which generation it presents itself in.

Thanks again!


Love,

Os

This quote stood out in this evenings research readings:



Harry Aarons in
THE JOURNAL OF HYPNOTISM
Vol 1 # 4 November 1951
(emphasis in original)


"hypnosis is entirely a mental state,
in which the dominant subjective mind
believes implicitly
whatever it is told to believe"

From my Things I need to research inbox..

A trusted research assistant for Lermanet.com stumbled upon
the fact that there was an interrogation guide published
by the (army?) called the Kubarik Interrogation Manual
and it DIRECTS the use of phrases from Alice in Wonderland
to be used to confuse and hypnotize, to subdue the subject being
interrogated.


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Even amongst hypnotists, Hubbard the stage hypnotist, was considered
an unscrupulous, unethical hypnotist..

Hubbard engaged in "Torture displays" on stage..

He left one kid screaming in pain, with hands claspoing on a wooden railing, after inducing the poor slob to believe that he was holding onto a red hot iron handrail and COULD NOT LET GO.

THAT IS JUST LIKE SCIENTOLOGY!

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Titles of articles in The Journal of Hypnotism
does the pattern of topics remind you of
Scientology?

Hypnotic Conditioning For Childbirth
Hypnotism and CRIME
Chiropractors and Hypnosis
The Case for Stage Hypnotism
Instantanteous Hypnosis Part III

The last article explains why L Ron Hubbard's fake history
and bogus reputation must be maintained - it states that
the hypnotist, in order to do fast and successful inductions
must create by his or her countenance and REPUTATION
an expectation of change.

Arnie, I feel sure what you are referring to is the...

Kubark Manual (produced by the CIA in '63)

The actual correct title is: Kubark Counterintelligence Interrogation.

It came to be called a "manual".

my best,
Charles

indeed, thankyew...

Now, consider THIS perspective, THAT THE



IS A CHURCH?

THIS IS MADNESS

and a 100,000 iragi child casualties in "Operation Enduring Freedom" is just a business decision, ...
it is getting to be too much...

Dear Mr. Lerma,
Your lifetime of work exposing the mind-control cult of L Ron Hubbard is a body of work to be most proud of. I personally hold you in the highest esteem with a respect that is well earned. You Sir have a big heart, and you have followed it.

Below is the KUBARK work re: the "Alice in Wonderland Technique", from chapter VIII. The KUBARK work can be viewed HERE


Alice in Wonderland

The aim of the Alice in Wonderland or confusion technique is to confound the expectations and conditioned reactions of the interrogatee. He is accustomed to a world that makes some sense, at least to him: a world of continuity and logic, a predictable world. He clings to this world to reinforce his identity and powers of resistance.

The confusion technique is designed not only to obliterate the familiar but to replace it with the weird. Although this method can be employed by a single interrogator, it is better adapted to use by two or three. When the subject enters the room, the first interrogator asks a doubletalk question -- one which seems straightforward but is essentially nonsensical. Whether the interrogatee tries to answer or not, the second interrogator follows up (interrupting any attempted response) with a wholly unrelated and equally illogical query. Sometimes two or more questions are asked simultaneously. Pitch, tone, and volume of the interrogators' voices are unrelated to the import of the questions. No pattern of questions and answers is permitted to develop, nor do the questions themselves relate logically to each other. In this strange atmosphere the subject finds that the pattern of speech and thought which he has learned to consider normal have been replaced by an eerie meaninglessness. The interrogatee may start laughing or refuse to take the situation seriously. But as the process continues, day after day if necessary, the subject begins to try to make sense of the situation, which becomes mentally intolerable. Now he is likely to make significant admissions, or even to pour out his story, just to stop the flow of babble which assails him. This technique may be especially effective with the orderly, obstinate type.

Please note the last sentence above. "...effective with the orderly, obstinate type."

What Hubbard was doing was to create a conditioned "mind-set" where his deranged teachings were acceptable, ...even to the most stubborn of his "fresh-meat".

I repeat once more my opinion, the TR's are the "back-bone" of the mind-control programming in Scientology. It is the process by which Hubbard attempts to create a "Mental Slave" that will listen only to him, the "Source".

The "Alice in Wonderland" TR truly exposes Hubbard's intent to take control of a person's mind by vehicle of confusion.

Confusion is the Devil's "game", and easily defeated with knowledge.

Love
Charles

L Ron Hubbard's Scientology Training Routines are also effective tools
to train the new adept to lie convincingly. In an article in Science News letter
psychologists determined that people who looked you straight in the eye were percieved as telling the truth.

There is a contrived cleverness to this scam that I believe lies beyond the capabilities of a mere sociopathic liar and unethical stage hypnotist.

And here is an example of "The Confusion Technique" being used by gypsys to make a living the old fashioned way, by STEALING.

Introduction:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/pers ... nosis.html

"it is possible to put a person into altered state of consciousness and achieve results before the person knows what's happening. It is even possible to use naturally occuring trance (when reading, when commuting) to do something bad.
In Russia we have these Gypsy "fortune teller", who are trained in hypnosis from their childhood and use it to steal. I'm not being nationalist here. Obviously there is just a small number of Gypsies who do it, but no other ethnic group is known for this. I once came under attack from such "fortune -teller" in broad daylight, and my NLP training allowed me not only to avoid the attack, but also to realize what exactly was happening. So I can attest that they indeed use hypnosis for their criminal ends."

Published: Wednesday, February 2, 2005

Theft victims blame hypnotizing Gypsies

By Kim Murphy
Los Angeles Times

MOSCOW - He was striking, with dark eyes, a long black ponytail and a stylish suit. He had a large, cheap ring that Olga couldn't stop looking at as he waved his hand repeatedly in front of her face.

"He was talking gibberish," she recalled. That he had left his wallet in a taxi. That he was supposed to meet someone at Sheremetyevo Airport. That he couldn't remember where he lived.

Olga offered him the $250 in her purse for a taxi, but he said it wouldn't be enough. She found herself leading the man up to her apartment. There, she opened her safe and counted out $500. "Can I have more?" he asked. "Can I have the 7,000 rubles in your purse?" Without replying, Olga emptied her wallet into his hands.

As they rode back down the elevator, Olga knew the man was a thief. She knew she should demand her money back before it was too late. But she couldn't open her mouth. "I was in a trance," she said later.

Almost immediately after he left, Olga broke into hysterical sobs and phoned a friend, who persuaded her to go to the police. There, detectives nodded knowingly. "Gypsy hypnosis," they said.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/02/ ... ies001.cfm

The devil, a universal metaphor for evil, is always defeated by truth.

It ocurred to me this morning that in society there is much RE-programming of minds... much programming of minds, but not enough DE-programming.

Re-programming ocurres when one set of LIESor truth is replaced by a new set of LIES.

De-programming is only accomplished by the actual truth.

I'm not sure why this came up now, maybe it was better than a simple BUMP, dedicated to whomever is running the pitbul nick in this new year.

Thank you for your kind words of encouragement.

All regimes running upon lies, repress and discourage insightful commentary, as if their very life depended upon it.

arnie lerma

deleted, off topic.

Dear AH,

glad it worked out.

Today's Missive of Hubbard and Hypnosis




I got a telephone call from a one time LONG TIME now ex-clam
who has been following along with the books I have read and found illuminating, and pursued the writings of Giordano Bruno...

Previously another ex-member supplied the red hot tip ( as opposed to the red hot iron rail ) about L Ron Hubbard's supposed discovery of "study Technology"
The pages of the real "study technology" were webbed HERE:
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/studytech/

Found to have been published in 1889....

There was, however, a lingering uneasiness with the use of a "demo kit"
This 'demo kit' deal appears to be rubbish that is uniquely Hubbardian, however the more I look at Scientology, the more I see that NOTHING is by whim or accident and EVERYTHING is a contrivance.

So, a group of use have been considering what the deal is with the "DEMO KIT".. now when I read something complicated, I like to draw pictures, and doodle, that is how I illustrate complex concepts in this mind...

But a tray of rubbish that is ASSIGNED a meaning by a victim of Hubbard's lies...What is the demo kit about???

It ocurred to one of the Lermanet.com research team.. today... and his observation was that, Hypnosis demands REPETITION... You have to keep repeating the same LIE over and over again... that is one reason Scientology mails out so much junk mail to it's victims..to constantly remind them... of the false promises.. and instil 'hope'... of chieving "clear" or whatever...

Overall in scientology, people become convinced that everything they thought was important before, has its meaning reduced to ZERO...
and the value-less rubbish of Scientology... a "Piece of Blue Sky" if you will, it's percievd value increases from 0 towards infinity.. until you are willing to part with all you own and your family..

As scientology's current victims do, every day.

LINK


One can assume then, that the use of a "DEMO KIT" is in fact a means used by Hubbard to create a HYPNOTIZED STATE, and in that hypnotized state, one practices, assigning great meaning to objects of no consequence,
assigning significance to NOTHING!

and THAT my friends,

IS SCIENTOLOGY

From

THE JOURNAL OF
HYPNOTISM
Vol 1 No 6 March 1952 50 cents

INSTANTANEOUS HYPNOSIS

Before proceeding to the modus operandi, it is necessary to say a few words about the imitativeness of the human animal as a significant factor in his hypnotizability.

Human beings are, after all is said and done, very much like sheep. They will often be induced to do things that they see others do before them that they would not be inclined to lend themselves to in individual situations. In hypnotization, the operator must keep this fact constantly in mind, and must so arrange the setting and the sequence of the proceedings that this quality of imitativeness will be allowed free reign. As an example, I can cite the practice of arranging the chairs on the stage in a semi-circle so that each subject is able to see the others: thus, when the more suggestible ones begin to go under, the rest notice this fact and are in a position to be influenced to react in a similar fashion.

The stage hypnotist always selects the BEST of the "volunteers" for the first instantaneous hypnosis, as his success or failure with the first subject largely determines the course of the rest of the demonstra tion. The quotation marks around the word "volunteers" are not intended to imply that they are not indeed volunteers, but refer to the recommended practice of testing the entire audience or large portions of it with preliminaries like the Arms Rising and Falling Test and selecting the volunteers from among those who reacted favorably, thus eliminating really "cold" volunteers without impressing the audience too strongly with the fact that a subterfuge was employed. The same principle operates in clinic situations like Emile Coue's clinic at Nancy and is behind the so-called miracles at Lourdes and other shrines. Mesmer's old practice of grouping his patients around his famous "baquet" probably resulted in a greater degree of success than would have been possible had he worked on his patients individually.

Prehypnotic Suggestion.

You have all had experience with post-hypnotic suggestion and the marvelous results that it can produce. But few of you, I am quite certain, have given prehypnotic suggestion much thought. Actually, prehypnotic suggestion is an underlying factor not only in instantaneous hypnotization, but also determines the types and varieties of responses that will be elicted in the resulting hypnotic trance.

There are two main types of prehypnotic suggestion: 1) hetero- suggestion-suggestion received from an extraneous source, and 2) auto-suggestion-suggestion that has been somehow self-administered.

Article continues HERE
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist6.htm

from an advertisemnt on the back page:

Master Course in Hypnotism
only $1.98
Harry Arons shows you
how to:

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USES AND REALITY OF MASS-HYPNOSIS - IMITATION AND ATTENTION

Hitler was reputed to use this method in conferences: never ceasing to project his words and ideas at a person until he seemed to agree with what was being propounded. <repetition>

Mass hypnosis is often possible in an audience which has already seen several persons hypnotised: their suggestibility is greatly enhanced by this experience.

Mass-hypnosis depends for its efficacy upon attracting attention, holding it, directing it to some subject or idea, producing expectancy of some 'change' in the individual: and commanding the hearer to ‘see or feel something.

It is probably by this means that most of the strange mass-delusions and illusions of history have been engendered. Each practitioner uses a routine best adapted to the audience with which he is working; playing upon their susceptibilities, credulity, prejudices, etc. An ingredient common of some forms of oratory.

I'm not sure if this is what is wanted from this thread but i feel it shows what a good mind magician can do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Brown
Lots of examples of mind manipulation contained.

Off topic: (but contained in URL above)

Could this be an example of how OSA commit crimes and don't give it a second thought?