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Patty Pieniadz wrote:
That's right! Listen to Itsaline and fall in line with the "correct thinking" around here or else you'd be accused of being OSA or a Clam.

God forbid you speak your mind and give an opinion other than what the powers to be around here think.

We want to make sure you Leave YOUR cult (Scn) and join our cult
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You're so right Patty. OCMB does not allow different points of view and free speech. Of course, I'm a sarcastic smart ass so please ignore my last two sentences.

Would "our" time be better spent contributing to DA threads started by OSA goons over on ARS? I really thought it was classy how you jumped in on the "Tory dogpile" over there recently. The Buttersquashers may not be OSA, but they sure are doing their best at employing their tactics. Why do you guys have a problem with EFFECTIVE critics?


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You are right.

How dare Patty publically disagree with Tory or question her on anything.

How dare she publically flaunt the rules of "Cult of Critic"!!

Don't worry, she will be dealt with very severely. I might even take a pot shot at her employment.


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itsaline wrote:
You are right.

How dare Patty publically disagree with Tory or question her on anything.

How dare she publically flaunt the rules of "Cult of Critic"!!

Don't worry, she will be dealt with very severely. I might even take a pot shot at her employment.


Like my mom used to say, "it's not what you say, it's how you say it". I've disagreed with Tory, but I respect her for being an EFFECTIVE critic so I didn't do it in a vicious manner or do it on a thread started by an OSA goon who was really grasping at straws to make Tory seem like a liar. I guess my chances of becoming a Buttersquasher are pretty slim!


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Patty Pieniadz wrote:
That's right! Listen to Itsaline and fall in line with the "correct thinking" around here or else you'd be accused of being OSA or a Clam.

God forbid you speak your mind and give an opinion other than what the powers to be around here think.

We want to make sure you Leave YOUR cult (Scn) and join our cult
(Scn critic).

Patty P

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You're so right Patty P. OCMB does not allow different points of view and free speech. Of course, I'm a sarcastic smart ass so please ignore my last two sentences.

Would "our" time be better spent contributing to DA threads started by OSA goons over on ARS? I really thought it was classy how you jumped in on the "Tory dogpile" over there recently. The Buttersquashers may not be OSA, but they sure are doing their best at employing their tactics!



RIP,

I got into Scn when I was 18 years old. I stayed in for 27 years and during that time I learned to be afraid. I understand now that it was all part of the Scn Indoctrination and I've done a lot to try to pull myself out of that pit and get my life back.

One of the decisions I came to was that I was no longer going to be afraid.

It's why I post under my real name and not a nick. I was afraid for so long about so many things that it stopped me from doing what I felt was right. The major thing that I was afraid of was of speaking OUT.

I will no longer be afraid. I will not be afraid of the C of S and I will not be afraid of a bunch of nitwits that call themselves critics that fail to tell the truth or get their facts straight.

I do not agree with people who give critics a bad name through exaggeration, hyperbole, lies, and SPECULATION.

What people need, especially people leaving the cult, is accurate, proveable, verifible facts. Not a lot of sensationalized made up shit.

You may not like the maligned Buttersquashers and are certainly free to criticize them, but one thing I will say about them, is they get their facts straight.


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Actually I think your chances are zilch.

They aren't processing further applications at the moment.

Actually, RIP, what is buttersquash? Can you explain?


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Just wanted to post something a bit more on topic- regarding the sex offences. There have been some interesting posts at the following site;

http://www.davidicke.com/content/blogcategory/30/48/

Yeah, yeah, I know it's David Icke, though if you scroll down you will see not only news on M Foley et al- also data on internment camps.

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"I would drive a few miles for a hot stud like you."
- Rep. Mark Foley, in an electronic message to a 16 year old page


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itsaline wrote:
Actually I think your chances are zilch.

They aren't processing further applications at the moment.


Damnit!!!!!!! Could I change Greenway's mind if I went after almost every critic who has made an EFFECTIVE blow against Co$? Would it help if I start cultivating an ambivalent stance toward Co$? Should I ask "pitbull" if he would be my mentor? Thanks in advance for your help itsaline...

Back on-topic: What really pisses me off about this whole Foley fiasco is that I didn't know about his ties to Co$ before the scandal broke and I don't think other critics made a big deal about his involvement with Co$ beforehand either. WTF??? We need to let all the constituents of politicians who get in bed with Co$ know what's going on. Thanks for the inspiration Mark! You've inspired me to step up my anti-Co$ activities a notch. Could someone point me in the right direction to get a list of all politicians who have gotten in bed with Co$?


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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... -headlines

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Ex-Page Tells of Foley Liaison
The young man says the then-congressman eyed males in the program. He says he was 21 when he and the Florida Republican had sex.
By Walter F. Roche Jr., Times Staff Writer
October 8, 2006


A former House page says he had sex with then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) after receiving explicit e-mails in which the congressman described assessing the sexual orientation and physical attributes of underage pages but waiting until later to make direct advances.

The former page, who agreed to discuss his relationship with Foley with the Los Angeles Times on the condition that he not be identified, said his electronic correspondence with Foley began after he finished the respected Capitol Hill page program for high school juniors. His sexual encounter was in the fall of 2000, he said. At the time, he was 21 and a graduate of a rural Northeastern college.

"I always knew you were a player but I don't fool around with pages," declared one instant message from Maf54, a screen name Foley used in exchanges that have become public involving male former pages.

The former page's account is consistent with Foley's assertion that he did not have sexual relations with minors, an issue that will be key to determining whether he committed crimes. The legal age of consent varies from state to state; in the District of Columbia, where the pages live in supervised dormitories, it is 16.

Yet the former page's exchanges with Foley offer a glimpse of possible predatory behavior by the congressman as he assessed male teenagers assigned as House errand-runners.

In the messages, Maf54 described how years earlier, he had looked to see whether the former page had an erection in his tight white pants while the then-teenager was working near the congressman. Maf54 also speculated about the sexual attributes of other males in the same page class, including the observation that one young man was "well hung."

Foley abruptly resigned his House seat Sept. 29, after the disclosure of sexually oriented messages to former pages. Other messages were subsequently divulged, and questions concerning how much House Republican leaders knew about Foley and his interest in pages are being investigated by the House Ethics Committee. Foley is now in seclusion in an alcohol treatment facility, and his lawyer has declined to answer questions about specific pages.

The FBI has begun contacting former pages, and at least one — a deputy campaign manager for Rep. Ernest Istook, an Oklahoma Republican who is running for governor there — has hired a criminal defense lawyer, according to a published report. Istook issued a statement last week urging the media to protect the young man's privacy after his name was briefly posted on the ABC News website.

The former page interviewed by The Times said he had not been contacted by the FBI or the House Ethics Committee. He agreed to talk to The Times only if his identity was protected, because of his fear that exposure could hurt his job prospects.

The Times found the former page after others identified him as someone whose contacts with Foley went beyond graphic messages. At an interview, the former page brought a computer containing his communications with Foley, and allowed a Times reporter to review them. The young man, who now manages a suburban office of a national franchise, says that he is gay and that he had only one sexual encounter with Foley before the contacts abruptly ended. The Times agreed not to publish the year of his page class to protect his identity.

The young man said that while serving as a page, he and his fellow pages gossiped frequently about Foley's overly friendly behavior but did not complain about him to program supervisors or other members of Congress. They nicknamed him "Triple F," for "Florida Fag Foley." One evening, four of the boys made an unannounced visit to Foley's home.

"We knocked on his door and he let us in. Nothing happened, but he was very friendly," the former page said.

Foley's flirtations made the young man feel important at a time when he was struggling with his emerging sexuality. "It seemed cool that he was taking an interest," he said. "I knew he was gay, and he was attracted to me."

After leaving the program, the former page began receiving messages from Foley. He is uncertain how Foley knew his college instant-message name, but assumed the congressman had access to a directory listing former pages' whereabouts.

The exchanges quickly became provocative. In one 2000 message, Maf54 inquired about the length and direction of the youth's erection.

"I always thought you were gay," Maf54 commented.

"Is it obvious?" the former page asked.

Ultimately, the young man said, he had a sexual encounter with Foley at the congressman's Washington home.

Then 21, he was in Washington as an intern in an unrelated program.

The two had wine and pizza on a backyard patio and then retired to a spare bedroom, he recalled.

The former page, who served during Foley's first term, said that he believed Foley became bolder in his behavior during his decade in Congress.

"He clearly has used his position, but who hasn't?" the former page said. He still follows protocol in referring to the former congressman as "Mr. Foley."

He said Foley was really two very different people: a legislator "really devoted to his cause," and a sexual being.

He and other former pages were surprised that it took so long for Foley "to get caught," he said.

"It most saddens me because of the damage it could do to the program," the young man said of the page system. "It was the most spectacular year of my life. I would love to do it all over again."


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wally.roche@latimes.com


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RIPODB wrote:

Could someone point me in the right direction to get a list of all politicians who have gotten in bed with Co$?



I don't know if there is a site for all of them but this site has a lot of them,
especially the Florida politicans.


http://web.tampabay.rr.com/sp/FLA.html

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Patty Pieniadz wrote:
RIPODB wrote:

Could someone point me in the right direction to get a list of all politicians who have gotten in bed with Co$?



I don't know if there is a site for all of them but this site has a lot of them,
especially the Florida politicans.


http://web.tampabay.rr.com/sp/FLA.html

Patty P


Thanks for the link Patty. Do you have any stories to share or info re politicians while you were "in"? If so, I'd love to hear them. I'd really like to know how these politicians are approached and how much money is spent to court their favor. I'd also like to know how many of these politicians actually know who they're dealing with beforehand. There are many churches who tacitly or pubicly endorse politicians so I could totally see a money-grubbing politician being caught unaware by the "Church" of $cientology, which tries to use these politicians as pawns in their game to achieve the fascist dream of clearing the planet. OTOH, I don't have much respect for politicians in general and think most of them would get along with Co$ famously.

IMO, Co$ will no longer be able to get away with this. SP912 and xenu.net shed light on the monster known as Co$ to the WHOLE world and it's now our job to make sure they don't get away with it any longer. Unfortunately, they're masters at hiding so it will take years to go after all of the tentacles. I heard a frickin' Narconon ad on a hip-hop radio station today!


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Look at all of the idiots going into agreement: Itsaline, Patti P, juju. etc. A big freakin idiot club. It is easy to say, "Ooooh we're so much better than everyone else at Clambake!" but all you guys are really doing is engaging in is a big self-congratulatory circle jerk. I can hardly wait for the X-Rated video where Patti P. uses a strap-on on Itsaline and then they get married and live happily ever after in a trailer park in Hemet.

Hey! Patti P! Since when is SPECULATION off limits? You lived with and obeyed all of LRH's fake science SPECULATIONS for 27 years and paid big money for them. You pay nothing here at OCMB for SPECULATION and have to obey none of the dreaded SPECULATION.

You get to speak your mind here and there are no KR's and Comm Ev's. OCMB is a better deal than what you had for those 27 years when you were a slave and a fool, so why attack OCMB and its members for the freedom we have to SPECULATE and to PRESENT FACTS and to EXPOSE SCIENTOLOGY? Do you gripe because you can take the girl out of Scientology but you can't take the Scientology out of the girl? Still feel a need to DA people huh? Just a force of habit? Can we get you back on the meter to see what your motivators are? Just for one session? Please? :smile:

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As for SPECULATION, let's add some fuel to the fire shall we? In this photo taken in 2005, President Bush is seen walking with Mark Foley. It is clear from this photo that Bush is playing "Whose is Bigger?" with Foley. This is PROOF in my book, okay? :wink:

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J Swift, What's the problem? Yes, Patty is speaking her mind here. So are others. comments like the strap on thing are just tacky and stupid.


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itsaline wrote:
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Well duh!

Foley is a bad man. All Scientologists are bad. Foley is a Scientologist.

I know this is really highbrow complicated thinking, but if you are going to fit in around here you'll just have to learn fast.

I hope I've helped.

p.s. Still waiting.......



That's right! Listen to Itsaline and fall in line with the "correct thinking" around here or else you'd be accused of being OSA or a Clam.

God forbid you speak your mind and give an opinion other than what the powers to be around here think.

We want to make sure you Leave YOUR cult (Scn) and join our cult
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Patty P

http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/pieniadz1.html


Damn right!!!

You simply must be in a cult.

Scientology is a bad BAD cult, but the "Cult of Critic" is a super dooper cult. You get to use all the same group think and name calling without any personal responsibility. You get to invent wild theories and bash anyone who dares to disagree. You even get to yell "OSA!" at them.


Yes. And to accuse them of having the wrong friends, of "bragging that (they) have an unusual sexual lifestyle", comments on their spouses, their lives, etc, that they put porn on the internet, oh, and really fun, you get to create threads about them and send them PMs saying they are writing ad hominems about the PM's author and that they better stop when there'd been no post or PM even mentioning the person. Or PMs saying that they must be nuts or OSA, or posts demanding that they take down a website- not change the one picture- no, the entire website, just because someone didn't like the picture that was on it.

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You don't need to be accurate, or even make sense, but you must be sensational, that is a pre requisite.


Sure. The Foley scandal is worse than it ordinarily would have been because of his Scn ties. Sure!


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Ohhh, the other benefit is that you can belittle anyone who attempts to refute your made up garbage. That is probably the funnest thing of all.


Yes, that occurs later in this thread. J Swift seems to think you and Patty are about to put on a little show.


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You don't need to know much about scientology at all. In fact it's probably better that you get all your info from the MB here because facts only confuse things.


Yep. I've seen people who just got on the forum take others to task and just tell them alllll about it.

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The only rule is that you are to have no empathy for Scientologists who are desperate for accurate information. We don't really want Scientologists to leave because if they did, we've have no one left to hate.


Of course there are a fair number of exceptions to that, but, by and large, a significant percentage of contributors here have no empathy for any Scn'ist at all, and even have none for other critics who won't toe their line.


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Oooohhhh!! Where do I sign up!


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Thanks for the link Patty. Do you have any stories to share or info re politicians while you were "in"? If so, I'd love to hear them. I'd really like to know how these politicians are approached and how much money is spent to court their favor. I'd also like to know how many of these politicians actually know who they're dealing with beforehand. There are many churches who tacitly or pubicly endorse politicians so I could totally see a money-grubbing politician being caught unaware by the "Church" of $cientology, which tries to use these politicians as pawns in their game to achieve the fascist dream of clearing the planet. OTOH, I don't have much respect for politicians in general and think most of them would get along with Co$ famously.

IMO, Co$ will no longer be able to get away with this. SP912 and xenu.net shed light on the monster known as Co$ to the WHOLE world and it's now our job to make sure they don't get away with it any longer. Unfortunately, they're masters at hiding so it will take years to go after all of the tentacles. I heard a frickin' Narconon ad on a hip-hop radio station today!


Sorry RIP, I don't have any personal stories to tell. The real push to ally politicians and put money in their campaign coffers seems to be something they started doing in the past 5 or 6 years. I could be wrong about that but from my experience in Boston, I never really saw any effort to ally or get in good with the local politicians.

Apparently that's changed since I worked for them because they seem to really be active in getting local politicians to their events and saying nice things about them.

Letters with critical links to politicians that are uneducated about the cult
is something any critic could do. We all know Scn is a destructive cult, but many others are still very clueless and need information.

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