When filing papers away in student and staff folders at an org, I noticed one person had an OTVI certificate, and a suppressive declare in his file! I thought SP's weren't capable of self improvement. And if an SP can attain the level of OTVI and beyond, is the CO$ not just making more powerful SP's? Needless to say, that among other things planted a seed of doubt in my mind about the whole thing. In my opinion, a person or organization is suppressive when it causes people to disconnect. $cientologists disconnect from their families, their careers, sell of everything they own, etc., and all to become slaves to the CO$. So at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how many SP's are in the CO$ because the CO$ itself is suppressive, whether it's members are or not. And $cientologists are all, to some degree, PTS to the Church.