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 Post subject: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:33 pm 
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Per L. Ron Hubbard's 'SP/PTS' materials when one is connected to a suppressive person (PTS) they make mistakes and have accidents.

At Gold Base, there are people who have been declared SP but instead of being sent away so that no one involved in $cientology is connected to them they have been kept there. Keeping them connected in any way with $cientology makes the whole organization a potential trouble source (PTS).

So all of $cientology's current list of problems must stem from the fact that it is connected to so many SPs.

The handling is obvious. Give each of those individuals their goldenrod declaration, their $500 severance pay, and disconnect from them by dropping them off at the nearest bus depot.

You see how helpful we, at the Bake, can be.

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 Post subject: Re: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:40 pm 
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When filing papers away in student and staff folders at an org, I noticed one person had an OTVI certificate, and a suppressive declare in his file! I thought SP's weren't capable of self improvement. And if an SP can attain the level of OTVI and beyond, is the CO$ not just making more powerful SP's? Needless to say, that among other things planted a seed of doubt in my mind about the whole thing. In my opinion, a person or organization is suppressive when it causes people to disconnect. $cientologists disconnect from their families, their careers, sell of everything they own, etc., and all to become slaves to the CO$. So at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how many SP's are in the CO$ because the CO$ itself is suppressive, whether it's members are or not. And $cientologists are all, to some degree, PTS to the Church.

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 Post subject: Re: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:52 am 
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My golden dream is to receive an SP declaration from the Church -- that would be so much fun! Alas, they do not do public SP declarations nowadays.

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 Post subject: Re: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:10 am 
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Wieber wrote:
Per L. Ron Hubbard's 'SP/PTS' materials when one is connected to a suppressive person (PTS) they make mistakes and have accidents.

At Gold Base, there are people who have been declared SP but instead of being sent away so that no one involved in $cientology is connected to them they have been kept there. Keeping them connected in any way with $cientology makes the whole organization a potential trouble source (PTS).

So all of $cientology's current list of problems must stem from the fact that it is connected to so many SPs.

The handling is obvious. Give each of those individuals their goldenrod declaration, their $500 severance pay, and disconnect from them by dropping them off at the nearest bus depot.

You see how helpful we, at the Bake, can be.


Wieber, I am sure Karin Pouw or Tommy Davis will have a very good "explanation" for it. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
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True, they should send Heber, Shelly, Tommy and all the rest home.

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 Post subject: Re: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:17 am 
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Peter Schilte wrote:
Wieber wrote:
Per L. Ron Hubbard's 'SP/PTS' materials when one is connected to a suppressive person (PTS) they make mistakes and have accidents.

At Gold Base, there are people who have been declared SP but instead of being sent away so that no one involved in $cientology is connected to them they have been kept there. Keeping them connected in any way with $cientology makes the whole organization a potential trouble source (PTS).

So all of $cientology's current list of problems must stem from the fact that it is connected to so many SPs.

The handling is obvious. Give each of those individuals their goldenrod declaration, their $500 severance pay, and disconnect from them by dropping them off at the nearest bus depot.

You see how helpful we, at the Bake, can be.


Wieber, I am sure Karin Pouw or Tommy Davis will have a very good "explanation" for it. :wink:

Peter


There is a skill in one of the role playing games I used to play called, 'spurious logic.' Karin Pouw and Tommy Davis have that skill in spades.

(Yes, I played role playing games. I told some people involved in $cientology that I did and no one was even slightly or politely interested, certainly not enough to report it.)

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 Post subject: Re: Ah! There's Co$' Why. It's PTS.
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bparker230 wrote:
When filing papers away in student and staff folders at an org, I noticed one person had an OTVI certificate, and a suppressive declare in his file! I thought SP's weren't capable of self improvement. And if an SP can attain the level of OTVI and beyond, is the CO$ not just making more powerful SP's? Needless to say, that among other things planted a seed of doubt in my mind about the whole thing. In my opinion, a person or organization is suppressive when it causes people to disconnect. $cientologists disconnect from their families, their careers, sell of everything they own, etc., and all to become slaves to the CO$. So at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how many SP's are in the CO$ because the CO$ itself is suppressive, whether it's members are or not. And $cientologists are all, to some degree, PTS to the Church.

Bobby

Good summation!


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