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I hope that justice is going to be served by re-opening the case because the first trial was a joke and had nothing to do with justice.



I believe the police mentioned that they got emails

"all the way from amsterdam and france"


there is no telling what kind of LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN Scientologists have BEEN ASSIGNED to...

Better start writing to RIVERSIDE and CALIFORNIA AUTHORITIES to counteract whatever nonsense SCN is GUARANTEED to be spewing by now...

They will be FLOODING the mail boxes and phones ( just like they bury courts in PAPER) in order to confuse the issues and bury the legitimate pleas...

.......Perhaps the authorities need to be FORWARNED of the SCIENTOLOGY tactics.... otherwise its almost Guaranteed SCN numbers of "letters" will out weigh the LEGITIMATE ONES.

afterall, we KNOW they follow the FAIR GAME POLICY stating LIE to WIN at ALL costs to ruin the TARGET, utterly... whatever it takes


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I have tried several times to open this link to send a message to the Californian authorities:
http://www.govmail.ca.gov/
But I can not get through! This could mean that there are many people trying to send there message to the authorities. My only hope is that they are not rondroids.

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I have tried several times to open this link to send a message to the Californian authorities:
http://www.govmail.ca.gov/
But I can not get through! This could mean that there are many people trying to send there message to the authorities. My only hope is that they are not rondroids.

My bet s they are calling telling TALL TALES of their e-meter IMPLANTED FEAR - these are mnd contol victims afterall... who apparently defend their abusers - ALL needing some kind of psychiatric HELP...

A victory for Keith No Matter HOW small t is in the BIG Pcture is a terrible BLOW to SCIENTOLOGY and solidifies their SCAM to a HIGH degree- they will be exposed and humiliated and DOWN STAT (as if they could go any further down stat than they already ARE...)- they (scn) are answering to their CRIMINAL BOSSES trying not to get beaten in the head, afterall


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During this calm before the real storm, I'm pondering Detective McClain's involvment behind the scenes (and the people who communicatated with him) and maybe he can clear a few things up and/or lead to other things that he himself should be concerned about.
There is something very odd about it, from what he himself has said and what Keith observed and what generally happened. Without slinging mud, some simple clarification is desirable at some point.

* 3 months observation on Keith after being "tipped off". Why 3 months?. Was he waitng for permission from someone? If so, who and why? Seems like a waste of time if he knows where he lives and he's already aware that he his a "fugitive". The excuse that he was waiting for the warrant from Riverside seems irregular. 3 months waiting? Surely the decision would have been quick and simple. It smacks of Scientology interference/influence at Riverside (note the later "crime" of ommission by Riverside that caused the bond to be temporarily increase to 500,000) or maybe it just did take 3 months for a warrant because it was only due to a trivial misdemeanor and thus was not a high priority(?). An answer to this should be simple enough.

* McClain says he got most of his info from the internet. Then he was spotted by Keith handing out RFW site pages to his colleagues. Why? When you type "Keith Henson" into Google, the first two and a half pages are practically all good things about Keith so why did he choose to go past all than and home in on the RFW crock of shit? Why did he not instead hand out copies of the Keith Henson timeline from Holysmoke - which would have given them a far more accurate idea of Keith, the actual history and how it affects the situation in hand. Also, if RFW was his source then why did he consider Henson not a threat at arrest? Did he in fact determine the real truth from proper sources (internet or not) or was there a request from above not to use excessive force in public (which would have attracted a lot of attention). Eitherway I personally find that unless McClain has some very good reason, the handing out of RFW pages in the cop shop is not only distasteful but just brimming over with wrongability and I'd like to know his precise reasons for why he thought that it was a good idea to use the pages of a liar to educate his fellow officers (at the exclusion of all else?).

* McClain says he was given the info by and anon tipster. What were the contents of this report (will the details be made public or will it be just a summary "I got a report from an anon tip"?). Did he report back to the tipster and/or did he get any further information from him/her? From the information he received, did he notice any unusual enthusiam for Keith's original conviction. Was the tip a phone call or a letter or an email? In his 3 months of waiting, did he make any attempt to trace the source of the tip or was it on some special guaranteed anon service they provide to the public?

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lermanet_com wrote:
Navy wrote:
I hope that justice is going to be served by re-opening the case because the first trial was a joke and had nothing to do with justice.



I believe the police mentioned that they got emails

"all the way from amsterdam and france"


there is no telling what kind of LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN Scientologists have BEEN ASSIGNED to...

Better start writing to RIVERSIDE and CALIFORNIA AUTHORITIES to counteract whatever nonsense SCN is GUARANTEED to be spewing by now...

They will be FLOODING the mail boxes and phones ( just like they bury courts in PAPER) in order to confuse the issues and bury the legitimate pleas...

.......Perhaps the authorities need to be FORWARNED of the SCIENTOLOGY tactics.... otherwise its almost Guaranteed SCN numbers of "letters" will out weigh the LEGITIMATE ONES.

afterall, we KNOW they follow the FAIR GAME POLICY stating LIE to WIN at ALL costs to ruin the TARGET, utterly... whatever it takes


The clams have had 3 months preparation during the suspicious time delay from the "anon tip" and the execution of the warrant. It will interesting to see how far over top they go in their orchestrated campaign. However, quality beats quantity so I reckon one good email/letter from a critic can turn a ton of cult babble into recycled toilet paper easily.
Ya know what though, I have a suspicion that they might just want this to go away quietly. There's been the few odd clam nutters on comments sections of media reports/slashdot, ARS etc but nothing of any consequence.

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INTRODUCTION:

Eightyfour year young Ida Camburn, who lives close to scientology's headquarters, in Hemet California and was close friends to Keith Henson, letting him sleep at her home when he was in town to picket, is the grandmother of the anti-cult movement. She was involved in the original CFF - Citizens Freedom Foundation - LINK, whose membership turned into CAN - The Cult Awareness Network - CAN was later taken over by Scientology..LINK

Her son disconnected from her in 1976, she recalls asking him "what is wrong with your eyes??" because they looked glassy.. hypnotized, after he was in scientology and came to visit her for one of the last times.

I encourged Ida to tell her story, because she knew more details about Scientology and the anti-cult effort than anyone else.

Her story is here: http://www.lermanet.com/idacamburn/

Ida was one of two or three people present watching as Scientology railroaded Keith in that Riverside Courtroom. She was also present during debates for the notorious Petris Bill. I asked her to comment on recent events and this is what she said:

Ms Ida Camburn on Henson and Justice

I need to work on getting 1423 rescinded. Today I plan on trying to get someone of importance to look at the fallacy of that bill 1423. 1423 is the Petris Bill that the cults and scientology pushed through the california legislature, prohibiting the california attorney general from investigating religions.

We elect officials to protect the country then take their rights away with a bill such as this. I remember well who was there at that fiasco. and the head of Synanon wasn't there but dozens of his followers were there sitting like zombies, shaved heads and all . Old Senator Petris stormed in like the Lord of the castle, he was in the Synanondistrict I remember how disgusted the state Attorney general, Dukmajean was over this fiasco.

Disgust didn't help as the damn thing passed Only one person voted against it. I remember Willie Brown and Maxine Waters grinning from ear to ear.

Well the cult has reigned in California about long enough and wouldn't it be great if all this flack on Keith would help remove their crown?
Almost too much to hope for but hope springs eternal with me. When you have lost the most precious thing in your life, if you lost hope too what would happen to your psyche then?

I'd prolly lose it like the woman astronaut did yesterday It is time the media brought this 1423 fiasco up. That came up right after Jonestown. I never could figure out how that was pulled off other than Petris had power in Calif gov at that time. I do know then Attorney general Dukmejian had two ugly groups ready to be tried. One was a small group in San Jose who were beating children in the name of God and the other was the World wide church of God.

They had ripped off many old couples getting their property etc.

Now these two were mere patsies compared to what this Hubbard cult does Scientology destroys families, practices medicine with out license, hires killer pi'sto keep any decent human from exposing their ugly works It would take a couple pages to tell what I think of them I would like to see David Miscavige's sorry ass before a judge that knew what the score is I was on a jury once and watched two trials.

When I saw what a fiasco this trial against Keith was I wanted to jump up and scream, and to think Graham Berry saw a letter from the great Feffer in The files. Feffer is the all power boy in Washington D.C. I must get busy Time goes so much faster when you are old

My mother used to tell me that and I didn't believe her IT IS TRUE. When I am reincarnated I'm coming back able to write .. until then I'll struggle with what I been doing since l976.

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http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special12/articles/0311scientologists11.html
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Scientology group finds support in Legislature
Tinseltown trips linked to anti-psychiatry push

Amanda J. Crawford
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Mar. 11, 2006 12:00 AM

A group affiliated with the Church of Scientology has forged close ties with several influential members of the Arizona Legislature as part of a nationwide battle against the mental-health industry....


As part of our work into examing the arrest of Keith Henson, we need to examine if an Arizona State Legislator or other public official worked on behalf of Scientology in what could be a Scientology-influenced covert operation.

It seems self-evident that a Scientology PI gave the "anonymous tip" concerning Henson's whereabouts to Prescott PD. How did Mc Clain get assigned the case and who did he meet with during the three months he had Henson under surveillance?

One the hand, Henson was a fugitive and so the Prescott PD had to arrest him once it knew he was living in its jurisdiction. We understand that as a matter of course. On the other hand, did Detective Mc Clain go over and above the call of duty? Was he talking to any Arizona officials connected to Scientology? Was he surveilling people who came and went from Henson's home? Was a wiretap warrant secured on Henson to intercept and monitor his phone calls? In other words, was this a routine arrest as Prescott PD claims or did Mc Clain infuse a personal agenda into the Henson case at the behest of an AZ pol? We don't know. However, we can ask questions through the correct legal channels.

I raise these questions because of the three month gap between the anonymous tip and Henson's arrest. There would be no reason not to arrest Henson once the Prescott PD knew his whereabouts. What was Mc Clain's motive in conducting a long surveillance?

Prescott PD wants to push the story over to Riverside County, California and I understand its desire to do so. However, there are simple questions that Prescott PD can answer and need to be asked given Scientology's ties into the Arizona Legislature.

Senate Bill 1477, which would have placed tight controls on psychotropic drugs, was vetoed by the AZ Legislature. I am looking into the AZ pols who sponsored SB 1477.

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One way for a cop to become a mayor, a councilman, or a state legislator is to begin working while they are still on the force and can help legislators who need things bird-dogged by a cop. So did Mc Clain do anything to help pro-Scientology legislators in AZ? If so, were these actions ethical? It is acceptable for officers to work for political causes, but only within departmental boundaries. I mention this because I know Fred Hunter, the former Mayor of Anaheim, California, who began as an Anaheim cop and later was promoted to become an APD Narcotics Detective. Fred is a textbook case of a cop running the city he once patrolled. He is a great guy. There are many ambitious and smart cops like Fred Hunter throughout the US. They become mayors by cultivating people while they are on the force. This is not improper, but it can be if departmental boundaries are crossed. Fred never crossed any lines.

I am not saying Mc Clain did anything improper. An initial look shows normal police procedure. However, when we see an AZ Legislature link to Scientology, it raises eyebrows about the extent of Scientology's reach. It may have been limited to only SB 1477. Or maybe not. Like others, I think Detective Mc Clain's investigation deserves some scrutiny because Keith Henson is a cause celebre.

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So you can buy politicians.

These people were invited by CCHR on the mentioned date and CCHR payed their bills:
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The following lawmakers have taken trips to Hollywood paid for by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights since January 2004. Other trips took place before the group was registered to lobby legislators. According to the group's lobbyist records, the trips were valued at $250 to $499. Also, some legislators were briefed on campaigns and presented with possible legislation.

February 2006, CCHR International Human Rights Award Dinner:

• Rep. Tom Prezelski, D-Tucson, cost unavailable.

Dec. 2005, grand opening, Psychiatry: An Industry of Death museum:

• Rep. Pamela Gorman, R-Anthem, $253.40.

August 2005, Celebrity Center anniversary gala:

• Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, $499.
• Sen. Thayer Verschoor, R-Gilbert, $495.
• Sen. Carolyn Allen, R-Scottsdale, $405.
• Sen. Karen Johnson, R-Mesa, $485
• Sen. Marilyn Jarrett, R-Mesa, $485
• Sen. Linda Gray, R-Glendale, $485.

February 2004, CCHR International Human Rights Awards Dinner:

• Sen. Albert Hale, D-Window Rock, $432.
• (former) Rep. Sylvia Laughter, I-Phoenix, $315.
• (former) Rep. Mark Thompson, R-Tempe, and wife, $631.40.
• Rep. Lucy Mason, R-Prescott, $295.70.

These people are supposed to represent the people! This makes me :puker: !

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special12/articles/0311scientologists11.html

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wonder what legislation was passed or maybe voted on - if any- during the 3 months?

was PD lead to believe that Henson would committ a crime so therefore they "tailed" him waiting for such result - which never happened...

did the 3 mos gve PD time to SEE that he is a nice guy that abides by the law after SCN had convinced them he was "BAD" ?

either way looks like they tailed him on some TRUMPED UP INFO and in the end a judge allowed him a low bail on a fugitive warrant-

do those cops feel stupid now for falling for the CULTS BS?

HAS ANYONE CALLED OPRAH about this case YET??


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So you can buy politicians.

These people were invited by CCHR on the mentioned date and CCHR payed their bills:
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The following lawmakers have taken trips to Hollywood paid for by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights since January 2004. Other trips took place before the group was registered to lobby legislators. According to the group's lobbyist records, the trips were valued at $250 to $499. Also, some legislators were briefed on campaigns and presented with possible legislation.

February 2006, CCHR International Human Rights Award Dinner:

• Rep. Tom Prezelski, D-Tucson, cost unavailable.

Dec. 2005, grand opening, Psychiatry: An Industry of Death museum:

• Rep. Pamela Gorman, R-Anthem, $253.40.

August 2005, Celebrity Center anniversary gala:

• Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, $499.
• Sen. Thayer Verschoor, R-Gilbert, $495.
• Sen. Carolyn Allen, R-Scottsdale, $405.
• Sen. Karen Johnson, R-Mesa, $485
• Sen. Marilyn Jarrett, R-Mesa, $485
• Sen. Linda Gray, R-Glendale, $485.

February 2004, CCHR International Human Rights Awards Dinner:

• Sen. Albert Hale, D-Window Rock, $432.
• (former) Rep. Sylvia Laughter, I-Phoenix, $315.
• (former) Rep. Mark Thompson, R-Tempe, and wife, $631.40.
• Rep. Lucy Mason, R-Prescott, $295.70.

These people are supposed to represent the people! This makes me :puker: !

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special12/articles/0311scientologists11.html
I bet those people have not a clue what they are dealing with as we KNOW scientology uses DiSGUiSE for all their crimes.

THEY ALL NEED AN EMAIL that is short an to the point explaining what exactly they are buying into...


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Just so I get this correct. The Assistant DA R Schwartz of Riverside County was a clam and he was part of Keith getting railroaded in the first place?

Robert Schwartz the clam

Rampant corruption in Riverside County


OMGWTFBBQ!! Spongey!


No, the DAs name is spelled Schwarz. The ARSCC elfen noticed the simlarity years ago and disproved it. No relaton to a certain "Barbara" either. :)

Im just getting back familiar with htis case, cant believe the cult want to stir this up again. They would be better off to let the statut of limits lapse.

If theres any decency left in the world, the whole case should be voided. So many irregularites!
Thanks Torsten, I now see that the DA in question more or less disappeared through fear of sorts and wasnt the clam I saw on the beach of hubbards insanities.

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I notice that Rep. Lucy Mason, who represents the Prescott area in the Arizona Legislature, was among those wined & dined by CCHR. Could there be some connection here....?

It does seem awfully strange that the Prescott police department, knowing that Keith was a wanted fugitive, would follow him around for three months before making the arrest. Why the delay??


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And the Henson Legal Fund is Still open at
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
put HENSON in the message box when it takes you
to the paypal page
goto the SEARCH link at
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And we take Visa and mastercard
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BobDylan wrote:

HAS ANYONE CALLED OPRAH about this case YET??

great idea!!
whether they will take it up,who knows,but worth a try!!


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