Thank you, BTs2Free....truthfully, I never paid any attention, so I didn't see the name. lol

Prufrock, You're right. The Halliburton comment was just to make a point. But a good question would be, and this should possibly be the subject of another thread, but what was Scientology's reaction to Halliburton's connection to the war in Iraq? You would think that they would get their e-meter cases from another company if they had "saving the planet" as their own stated #1 purpose. I guess they don't feel bad about helping fund war machines and putting money into Dick Cheney's pockets.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Civilians_t ... C_coercion

I guarantee you that Scientology has used the war in Iraq to forward their own campaign to get more Scientologists "active" in Clearing the planet. So why would they be giving money to a "criminal" organization whose sole intention is to make more money whilst destroying the planet? Sounds like birds of a feather!

Last thing said about this, I promise.

Halliburton, like Scientology treats our own military just like Scientology treats it's Sea Org members. Amazing similarities. See the link in my last post as well as this one:

http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20 ... -82879.pdf

Why would anyone support that, even if it's just to purchase their great cases? Add up the amount of money Scientology has provided Halliburton over the years. Definitely a contribution!

Bts2Free

Some people in this country have managed to get the word Halliburton to be almost as nasty as Nazism or Fascism. The only thing I know is that for better or for worse Halliburton is a for profit American giant corporation that American vice president Dick Cheney was once involved with. For thirty years I more or less bought the "party line" of the CoS, including that having an "open mind" was almost as bad as being a child molester (except if the child molester had money, lots of it, and was wiling to hand it over in some way to the CoS, then of course openminded trumps the child molester in badness, if you all get my drift). These days I take very much pride in having an open mind, including about Halliburton. This message board is about undressing Scientology. If you're on a spiritual quest for the truth this site is a god-send, if you have been in the mind-fuck that is Scientology (thank you again, Andreas, who doesn't even believe there is a god), but let's keep political comments out of here and address them on other message boards that are political in nature.

Dear SCIE-NO-MO-.

Scientology IS a political body, it's an intelligence gathering body, and it has imperialistic goals. Some Bush cronies are Scientologists. Inasmuch as Scientology mimics Nazism, and the Bush Family funded the Third Reich, and the Bush Administration SHELTERS SCIENTOLOGY (and enables Haliburton)-

-discussions of politics are NOT misplaced here. IMO, that is.

I welcome discussions regarding any correlations between the rapacious behaviours of Haliburton and Scientology. I discuss many correlations myself between Scientology and other businesses and the reason the Administrations of the major first world countries enable such rapes of their citizenry.

Listen to "Working Class Hero" by John Lennon.


Love,

Os

SCIE-NO-MO, Gotcha, however, in regards to the undressing of Scientology, please read the first posting on this thread as well as any other postings I've made in regards to Scientology. I think I've done a fair share so far of undressing the Cult and there's a lot more I need to say, so I believe I have earned a right to discuss any topic on this board unlike some who's sole intention is to distract a thread or stir the pot. But I started this one in particular and believe that on this thread we can discuss anything we want about Scientology. BTW, if all you think Halliburton is is just a corporate giant that "Dick Chaney was once involved with" you really need to do your homework on this one. Do you follow politics much? Because it's the ignorance of the people in this country who are allowing people like Bush, Cheney, Halliburton, Kellog, Blackwater, Scientology et al, to continue to rape the people on this planet. And guess what, it's the Scientologist that's been blinded the most. Don't get "open minded" about your own personal freedom and human rights just because those lines were used in Scientology propaganda to enslave you.

Os, you are right on. For example, the German government and others can spot a Cult a mile away and won't put up with it. Yet, here in the USA, Scientology is pretty much free to get away with anything it wants. Hmmmm.... Could it be vested interests? The Halliburton connection is probably small in comparisson to other ties that Scientology has within the US Government. How about the IRS?

Scientology infiltrated the US Government with Operation Snow White and to this day is THE largest infiltration of the US Gov't that's ever happened in history. So, in my opinion, Scientology IS a politcal Cult and that's what I'm attempting to "undress" here.

IMHO, some people should follow politics more closely. If you became part of the herd in a Cult, don't become one of the sheep out in the real world either.

Cheers!
BTs2Free

Erh.. I didn't even know what Halliburton is.. But it sure looks like they're not just a suitcase manufacturer...

But if Halliburton has managed to get itself a stinking reputation.. And we can get that to bleed over on $cientology.. I'm all for it.

OP Snow White followed Hubturd advice about infiltrating any and all influential offices in industry and government.

The fact that US government caught 'em at it, learned about their policies, and then blithely let them carry on.. Boggles the mind!

Fact is that the cult of $cientology still follows their policies. Which means that they still infiltrate the US goverment and any other goverment. Same story with police and the justice system.. There are documented cases!

I have to say I agree with Os and BTS2Free-Scientology IS a political body,one which uses the political connections it has and works to create more.
Scientology and politics are inseparable.
Also why are we undressing Scientology?Isn't it because it is reckless profiteering at the expense of human beings?Isn't that also the case with Haliburton(and ,I would argue,big pharma)?It's very interesting to me to see the connection between the two.
I also agree that this connection is very small compared to the connection with the IRS and even,i believe,MKUltra.

I can't get my wits around Halliburton manufacturing meter cases. Is this the same Halliburton where, in the 50s, I learned to do quantitative/qualitative analyses of oil deposits, and learned to read electric logs ( these are dropped down a drilling hole in order to read the strata)? I do know that the halliburton Co was connected to Cheney, and that Halliburton was given lucrative contracts in Iraq, but meter cases?
Is it possibly a different company?

la

I think OCMB is at its best when the topic is the dangers of the cult of Scientology. Almost everyone who posts to OCMB seems to agree on that and we all want to see Scn's crimes exposed.

But when it comes to politics there are many different opinions. There are very intelligent people on the left and the right. Posts about politics belong on political sites. My favorite is Realclearpolitics.com

-- that's my 2cents --Thorn

And mine.

Regardless of the right or left, facts are facts. Also, if you have anything to comment about this subject or anything else on this thread, feel free.

If you read my original posting in this thread re: the Halliburton/Scientology connection, that's all I wanted to say about it. Anything I posted about it later was just to answer some questions. But these reactions of NO POLITICS HERE, is really strange to me given the fact that Scientology is very involved in politics. Why do you think OSA attempts to get "keys to the city" for LRH from the mayors of practically every US city? Scientology should be undressed from all angles, including politics.

The only thing I was trying to mention was that Halliburton has been manufacturing the Scientology e-meter cases since the Mark VI e-meter, circa 1979 up to the present. At $300-$400 a case as a regular customer over the years, that's a nice little business friendship.

My point about the connection was this... Please bear with me! If Scientology claims to have as it's highest purpose to "salvage the planet", then what the fuck are they doing supporting Halliburton? That was my only point!!!!!

And if you don't know who Halliburton is, Google it and find out because dammit you should know. Halliburton is one of the main reasons why the war in Iraq is still going on and why the troops haven't been pulled out yet.

Scientology would have switched to another manufacturer for their cases had they had the best intentions at the fore front of their cause.

This is from the US Congress re Halliburton and this doesn't even cover half of it:

http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20 ... -82879.pdf

This one's a better deal, but it's not red...

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/for/380252796.html

Looky:

http://www.zerohalliburton.com/computer/aluminum.jsp



Which Halliburton?

http://www.zerohalliburton.com/heritage.jsp

EARLE P.!!! The founder of Halliburton of which you speak.

There you go!

Love,

Os
P.S.~ everybody's doin' it...
http://www.beachblogger.net/bwtm/index. ... ent_Wilkes

I have to chuckle at the bit about "the rigors of the Texas oilfields in the back of a pickup truck". The oil biz is a famous long time haven/front for CIA operatives (think George H W Bush and Zapata Oil). They probably have a guy nicknamed Q in a lab somewhere turning out cases like this where the handle doubles as a submachine gun, a flick of the wrist shoots out taser darts and inside there's a minibar that will get you a martini, shaken, not stirred.

More likely they started selling the danged things to the public just to make it hard to tell the real spies from the guys who just want to look cool.



Cheers,

Smitty

Dear Antiscn,

The connection is very large if you view Scientology, Halliburton, Executive Outcomes, Blackthornsag, etc. as CELLS in a NETWORK of SPOOKS who are WARTIME PROFITEERS and whose business it is to DESTABILIZE GOVERNMENTS!

I know whereof I speak.

Hypnoprogrammed zombies are frequently used to pad polls, to create havoc, to sign petitions, to write letters. Each tiny cell of a cult can drum up X membership to act on orders, but put all those cells together! Especially if one or another can use their computers to spam and mine info!

The tech works for everyone who employs it. I have witnessed a Scientology run scam get all their unwitting zombies to sign a petition to put someone on a ballot in Texas who had no business being on a ballot. They used real technology to convince each of these petition signers that they were victims of government mind control (brain implants) when in fact they were actually victims of mundane technology in the hands of a few canny Scientologists! The candidate was running on an "anti mind control" platform (this is what was stated to the unwitting petitioners). Boy, were they all in for a surprise when the candidate disavowed any interest in mind control after they got him on the ballot!

I am very glad you brought up MKULTRA, which is in fact a reality on many levels. It's an octopus with many tentacles, many of which are labeled as Kabala, Scientology, Est, Anthroposophy, Rush Limbaugh's dittoheads, etc.

William B. Wilson OIL BILLIONAIRE is an OT VIII and a crony of FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH. Bush's Tax Commissioner is the one who first proposed a deal with Scientology in 1991.


Love,

Os