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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:52 am 
BTs2Free wrote:
How do we know that Rinder isn't on a project to keep an eye on the Miscavige family for Little Hitler? Being the "eyes and ears" for Dave with the family. Dave has to know that his own family could become his worst enemy.

Mike Rinder has done similar projects in the past.

I wouldn't put it past Dave or Mike to come up with something like that. But who knows, maybe Mike really is out for good. That would be nice. Hopefully someday he speaks up. Do we wait for him to decide that on his own, or do we turn the screws a little bit at a time?

He's not just a run-of-the-mill ex-SO. The dude was the head of OSA for many years and should be held responsible for the crimes he ordered and committted.

I think Mike should know that there are eyes on him now. And if he is spying for Dave, he should just be aware that people are keeping an eye on him as well.
IMHO, Rinder, in order to become a functioning member of society MUST PAY FOR his crimes in a court of law. NO REDEMPTION WITHOUT DETENTION!

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No need to prove to him the real world is just as nasty the cult was.

I agree. Rinder is finding out what it's like to live outside the cult. It's got to be a huge adjustment for him, after a lifetime inside. I hope he'll speak out eventually, but I think if he encounters picketing and other abuse right now, he's almost guaranteed to clam up forever.

If any authorities want to go after him for crimes he committed, that's a different thing. If they have a case they should pursue it. Maybe he'll turn state's evidence.


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So the thing about twins being split up is true? That's fucked up. Okay, okay, I know we are talking about people who do many things that are even more fucked-up than that. But still...I wonder how old they were when it happened.



It was just verified by someone at ESMB that my recollection is accurate.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... #post59771

Just so you know - yes Sterling and Justin were twins - I was there when they were born. They are both Foster and Bitty's kids - Jenna is Ronnie Miscaviges daughter with Bitty. So half sister to Sterling and Justin - boys were separated when young - one went with Foster and one went with Bitty.

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lulu_belle wrote:
rickybobbybabyjesus wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgqKA3w6T2U

so he owes no one an explanation for these lies?



Any ex, I feel, would have the same reaction.

He did fucked up things when he was on staff.

We all did.

If you aren't ex-Sea Org, you don't know how it is, so don't think you know what the fuck you are talking about.

Now he's out.

The guy has been in the Sea Org since he was a kid. His family got him in.

He has never had a real job. Never.

A real life.

He's got to be close to sixty.

He's trying to start all over again.

If you do something to embarrass him, to make him lose his job, I would personally consider you to be at least as evil as Miscavige.

And maybe more so.


I completely agree.

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lulu_belle wrote:
If you aren't ex-Sea Org, you don't know how it is, so don't think you know what the fuck you are talking about.


lulu_belle... If you could then, could you give us an example of how it does feel? I'm not trying to be snide. You're right in that there's a perspective many of us may not be aware of... especially of the "Anon" persuasion who would like to know MOAR. It's then, I think, you'll be really teaching, given the state of things and many of them want to understand what it's all about.

Sure, they may not "understand what the fuck" they're saing, but that's where you come in as someone who's been there and knows what's going on. i know it may be hard to hold back the emotions and such, but reme ber; in many cases you're dealing with babes in the woods. You, as an Ex, I feel it is your duty to guide them so they see.

How about it? Sit back, relax and gather your thoughts and let us know what the score is? Let a bit of it go, give your honest take.... And remember to breathe.... ;)

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Dorthe wrote:
Could someone outline the Miscavige family tree?
Sounds like there is stuff for a another chapter in the book about David Miscavige.

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Will start doing that, in this thread
viewtopic.php?t=7097


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