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 Post subject: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-8s..
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:40 am 
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OMG. I was doing research in county court records & this recently filed lawsuit caught my eye. Scientology's vitamin king, himself, is suing fellow Scilons, claiming they caused him to lose over $8 million in income.

THIS IS HUGE!!!!

Case Number: BC492003
CONQUEST INTERNATIONAL ET AL VS R ROSSER COLE ET AL

Filing Date: 09/12/2012
Case Type: Legal Malpractice (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Parties:

COLE R. ROSSER - Defendant/Respondent
CONQUEST INTERNATIONAL - Plaintiff/Petitioner
DOES 1-50 - Defendant/Respondent

PETER GILLHAM - Plaintiff/Petitioner

LAW OFFICES OF LLOYD S. PANTELL - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

HINTON KREDITOR & GRONROOS LLP - Defendant/Respondent

R. ROSSER COLE A LAW CORPORATION - Defendant/Respondent

SOBEL LESLIE - Defendant/Respondent

Documents Filed:

09/12/2012 Complaint (40 pages long.. will be posted soon).

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilcas ... /index.asp


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:47 am 
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Isn't that a "high crime" on $cientology's list of "bad things" that $cientologists shouldn't do?

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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:51 am 
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This 2009 thread says Peter Gillham, Sr., owner of the vitamin company, was the only one in his family still in. http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... l-Vitality

Here's another thread, date not found:
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Peter L Gillham is Peter F Gillham sr's son. Snr is still in Scientology. Daughter Janis Gillham-Grady and Peter (Jnr) are out and both have spoken out. Both should be on the list.
Also, Peter F. Gillham (Snr) was NOT who was being interviewed and is not Yvonne's son, he was Yvonne's first husband and father of her children. Peter L. Gillham (Jnr) is who was interviewed and the son of Yvonne.
...the sister of Peter L. Gillham (jr): I was born in Scn and joined the SO when I was 11 years old in Jan '68. I am one of the original four Commodore's Messengers and worked directly with LRH for many years on the Apollo, in Clearwater/ Dunedin and in California. Myself and other long term Messsengers became targets of David Miscavige as he was grabbing his unauthorized power of the Church of Scn and we were in his way.

Scientology as it is lead today by Miscavige, is not the Scientology that it was intended to be. Janis Gillham-Grady
from http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint ... 28.10;wap2

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Peter Gillham
Not much information about Peter Gillham is available. He was a chartered accountant and an Australian who entered scientology in the early days. He worked his way up the bridge to OT and a Class VIII Auditor. He wrote "Fundamentals of Success" which he apparently deliberately placed in the public domain so it would be available to everyone.
Peter also runs an extensive nutritional business and specialises in providing vitamin and nutritional supplements including the well known Cal-mag formulae.
He was a long term outstanding scientologist with much experience working with Ron.
from http://www.goldcenturypress.com/authors.php

Yvonne Gillham later married Heber Jentzsch.

Peter was born in 1927, so is 84 or 85 years old. http://www.mylife.com/c-926579434


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:37 am 
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I sent an attachment to several people who wanted to put it on their Scribd accounts. It was posted to WWP tonight.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106774212/Gil ... fullscreen


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:36 am 
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Smurf, good job :) And it is a big deal, Co$ doesn't like any messy court cases out there from followers. Whether in or out, look like transaction happened while still in?

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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:41 pm 
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Smurf wrote:
OMG. I was doing research in county court records & this recently filed lawsuit caught my eye. Scientology's vitamin king, himself, is suing fellow Scilons, claiming they caused him to lose over $8 million in income.

THIS IS HUGE!!!!

Case Number: BC492003
CONQUEST INTERNATIONAL ET AL VS R ROSSER COLE ET AL

Filing Date: 09/12/2012
Case Type: Legal Malpractice (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Parties:

COLE R. ROSSER - Defendant/Respondent
CONQUEST INTERNATIONAL - Plaintiff/Petitioner
DOES 1-50 - Defendant/Respondent

PETER GILLHAM - Plaintiff/Petitioner

LAW OFFICES OF LLOYD S. PANTELL - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

HINTON KREDITOR & GRONROOS LLP - Defendant/Respondent

R. ROSSER COLE A LAW CORPORATION - Defendant/Respondent

SOBEL LESLIE - Defendant/Respondent

Documents Filed:

09/12/2012 Complaint (40 pages long.. will be posted soon).

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilcas ... /index.asp

40 pages is a very long document for me.
Smurf, could you tell in few words how they make him lose $8 million?

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 Post subject: Scis suiing Scis
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:47 pm 
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Ordinarily one of the perks of being in the cult is the legal power and representation they can give to you. Not to mention just plain fear!

But when Scis sue Scis I guess nobody is going to use their cult lawyers to fair game each other right?


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:52 pm 
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Here's my non-lawyer summary - Gillham wanted to sell his business in 2009. There was an appraisal which was too low because it used only cash flow and ignored assets. The R. Rosser Cole lawyers handling the deal had a conflict of interest. Ownership was transferred ignoring an additional $2 million which should have been paid. The R. Rosser Cole lawyers tacked on a deal that Gillham keeps working, although Gillham never agreed to that. The lawyers never delivered the promissory note or the final documents. Damages claimed by the Plaintiffs (Gillham's side) are $8 milllion. There is an Elder Financial Abuse claim, too. The R. Rosser Cole lawyers are accused of Professional Malpractice.


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:51 am 
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Demented LRH wrote:
Smurf wrote:
40 pages is a very long document for me. Smurf, could you tell in few words how they make him lose $8 million?
You remind me of ME when I was in graduate school whining to the professor in a class where we had to read one book a week and write a lengthy summary on it, despite the fact, I had 6 other classes with the same, demanding professors. :(

The gist of the lawsuit, IMHO, and is the crux of alot of lawsuits filed, where abuse of fiduciary duties are claimed, Peter Gillham was taken advantage of because of his old age and, perhaps, fading memory, and manipulated into signing an agreement that deliberately undervalued his company's assets and potential profit in the coming years.

I was informed by a friend of Peter's, that his company was earning upwards of $2 million a week in gross (retail & online) sales for his products.

Rosser Cole could lose his law license over this. He, himself, was a victim of the Reed Slatkin pyramid scheme, and had to rebuild his life & finances after that debacle.


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:11 am 
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Thanks for finding this, Smurf. Sharp-eyed critics Google, poke around, read/watch the news, and a famous-within-Scientology name catches our eye. Expect us.


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:55 am 
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Peter Gillham was the 1st husband of Yvonne Jentzsch.
She used to be Yvonne Gillman.
They had 3 children Terri (Gamboa) Janis (Grady) and Peter jr.
All 3 were senior messengers on the Apollo and they are my in-laws.

David Miscavige embedded Private Investigator David Lubow to infiltrate and spy on them for 20 years ! (in Las Vegas)
You can read their story here ~~
http://www.tampabay.com/news/sciento...cle1048123.ece

Terri was the Executive Director of "Author Services" and let's say privy to huge amounts of this and that.......
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Terri (Gillham) Grady
Janis was WDC FSO and other exec posts.
They both fled INT base in early 1990. Janis fled to avoid enforced abortion, she was pregnant.
Miscavige obsessively had them under surveillance....

This is what parishioner's money BUYS ! Private Investigators on the payroll for decades stalking those who have fled. And on a Tax Free 501C 3 to boot !!


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Peter Gillham is in "good standing." He has not left the Church.
He is not permitted to speak to his 3 declared ex-messenger kids.
Peter Gillham never did OT VIII as others have mentioned, he lives in Clearwater.

One wonders how a public "in good standing" can sue a couple of OT 8s ?

I will tell you why.

The Church does have wins in the legal arena when there is a church doctrine to cover the deed no matter how outrageous. Judges are reluctant to interfere with the 1st amendment. The Church screams "Religion ! religious !" when challenged in the Courts. Observe Marc and Clair Headley's latest appeal in the 9th circuit Court of Appeals.

BUT

not so when it comes to BUSINESS. If the Church interfere's in Business matters, it is no longer covered under the 1st amendment. The Church recently lost a case of a husband and wife where they interfered and the BUSINESS came crashing down. The Church silently paid up.

IJC ~~ The International Justice Chief no longer forbids a Scientologist in good standing suing another Scientologist in good standing. Lawyers have coached and tweeked the policy.

Now, when Peter Gillham, a significant inheritance would be left (by default) to his 3 kids Janis, Terri and Peter junior. But with all the money siphoned off, the kids will get nothing, nada, zippo, zero.

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Here's Terri, Janis and Marshall Goldblatt

And what old enemy would stand to benefit with his foot soldier OT 8s siphoning off the inheritance ?

I love it that DISCOVERY questions can go deep..

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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:38 pm 
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Smurf wrote:
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40 pages is a very long document for me. Smurf, could you tell in few words how they make him lose $8 million?
The gist of the lawsuit, IMHO, and is the crux of alot of lawsuits filed, where abuse of fiduciary duties are claimed, Peter Gillham was taken advantage of because of his old age and, perhaps, fading memory, and manipulated into signing an agreement that deliberately undervalued his company's assets and potential profit in the coming years.

I was informed by a friend of Peter's, that his company was earning upwards of $2 million a week in gross (retail & online) sales for his products.
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Thanks, Smurf.
Does Peter have any chance of wnning? Although the assets were undervalued, it may be hard to prove that it was done on purpose. A defendent could claim, I suppose, that it was nothing more than a mistake.

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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:50 pm 
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Thanks, Smurf. Does Peter have any chance of wnning? Although the assets were undervalued, it may be hard to prove that it was done on purpose. A defendant could claim, I suppose, that it was nothing more than a mistake.
Of course. This happens all the time. Peter estimated future profits of his company & it's products to be much higher, than what his accountant & attorney claimed it was. It's difficult to estimate future profits in a downturn economy, and the company's profits would be different than when the economy was better than it is today.

Separate from that, though, if Peter signed a contract stipulating he would receive income payments, and he did not receive them, then a violation of contract law occurred. I expect this case to be a numbers game. Peter's attorney will hire a CPA & actuary to analyze Peter's financial records & go head-to-head with Leslie Sobol. I expect this to be settled out of court, much like cases in the past, that have involved the SEC & bankruptcy court.

Cases like this should not go to a jury. Judges & juries, generally, lack an understanding of accounting methods & how actuaries arrive at conclusions using math, statistics, and financial theory to assess legal issues involving financial risk & potential profitability. It's brain science. It's like asking a jury to decide who's right in an argument over the law of physics.


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 Post subject: Re: Scientology's vitamin king Peter Gillham sues fellow OT-
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:13 pm 
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Several critics have been trying to find out who "Ian" is, that is mentioned in the lawsuit. I learned from a source that Peter Gillham had a girlfriend in Australia, who bore a son, Ian. They were never married.

I found dox on Ian & his mother. Ian won a national competition in 2006 for emerging artists with disabilities. He's also a member of the Sculptor's Society in New South Wales (Sydney area) who last showed his art in exhibition in 2007. I can find no reference to him after 2007.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... post731497


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