This topic has to be a real downer for people still "in".

It seems un-real to us Wogs.

It's like a hamster wheel.

So does that mean if Bart Simpson's voice only gives 5 mil next year...her stats are down?

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Wieber,
Thankyou for starting this thread. As a non scientologist I had no idea this bat shit craziness went on.

The more you learn about Scientology, the more you become convinced of two things, that Hubbard was crazy, and he was a genius. He had to be to be able to get fully grown adults to buy into this nonsense. Of course once people have bought into the program, they'll be so focused on achieving stats they won't notice so much other things going on around them.

Everything you hear about being on staff in Scientology sounds so brutal it just amazes me that people put up with it.

Yes.

I am sure the celebrities get treated better than other scientologists. If she gives less they will take the money. They may have subtler ways with the celebrities to let them know they are displeased with them.

A downstat celebrity probably gets greeted by a division head or department head rather than the executive director. At functions they may be seated at a table or location with lesser status. Celebrity center has probably developed hundreds of ways to let people know they are downstat without actually putting them in lower conditions or scolding them. A downstat celebrity may also find their career choices restricted with regard to other scientologists in the business.

I am speculating here. Perhaps someone who was involved in CC activities would like to comment on this.

There's worse than this.

If you keep your stats up, you CAN get away with anything - and Scientology will help.

A long time ago, I was passed a story about a rich public who was freely molesting children from his local Cadet Org, picking them up, taking them to dinner, then having his way with them - but because he kept the money flowing in, he was protected from reprisal.

It's entirely possible that the specifics of the story told to me were a blatant troll, but upstat child molesters have been protected - a woman in Florida was ordered by the local Org not to report her second, Scientologist husband for molesting her little girls, saying that "They would handle his aberration."

The whole thing is a sick, twisted violation of humanity.

Thinking back to when I got involved and indeed joined the Guardian's Office..

There was stats being a student but I only understood the game fully in the GO where pay and libs were dependent on the stats. Mind you, the pay was small. You might say the pay was alarmingly downstat!

Hmm.. So what intriques me is that I recognized the stat game as a losers game immediatly! - Oh, there was some 'philosophical' explanations and persuations, that being 'upstat' was 'natural' and good. It was criminals and SP's who were downstat.

However, when the stats are tallying your 'work' literally, then one can only be 'upstat' while learning and getting better at it. Soon as you get as good as you acn be at what you do the stat will level out. Means that you do that job optimally. Can't be done any faster.. Yet in $cientology that is an Emergency stat that will get you in trouble! - And since you are as good as humanly possible, then the only thing left that 'stat' can do is going down.

I really suspect that ALL scientologists recognized this losers game when they first learned about it!

Every single one!

Because it's too obvious not to! - Why didn't we say "Bollocks! You can keep that game yourself! I'm outta here!!!"?

I was very close to doing just that.. And that would have been the right thing to do! - You join the 'movement' as a volunteer with the best of intentions. Accepting little or no pay.. Then you are presented with a shit game like that!?

From what I have been able to glean, it appears there is also no global thinking in regards to the stats.

If stats plummeted after the Tom Cruise video release, no-one would have said that this happened because Tom Cruise is a dick, or the marketing genius who thought up this video is down stat, or those pesky SPs are responsible for this.

Because everyone is expected to be cause and not effect, they somehow pulled in the low stats. If they were cause, they would have been up stat despite the negative publicity and everything else going on in the world.

If a flood caused a city to be evacuated, staff were effect to the weather, therefore are still down stat.

Is that correct?



How far up the ladder do the stats get recorded? Does DM have a function that is subject to stats?

Edward, you are now into the Data Series.

The Data Series is a set of Hubb policies about evaluating a departure from an "ideal scene" (down stats), finding the "why" and developing a "program" to "handle." One does the evaluation by assigning "outpoints" until one finds ***THE*** "outpoint," which will be the "why."

Sorry, Edward, do you need something to settle your stomach after reading that?

One of the rules of that game is that the "why" has to be something "in your area" over which you have control.

This means that if you are a bookseller, a body router, a public registrar, a personality tester, a basic course supervisor and on into the 'org' you cannot attribute your stat crash to Tom Cruise's lunatic ranting or Anonymous picketing the 'org' because those things are not "in your area" and you have no control over them.

As a staff member you are then desperately "hatting" yourself on (oops slipped into the language - studying) the Data Series and desperately attempting to find out what it is you have done or over which you have control that is the reason why your stats have crashed because it isn't Tom Cruise or Anonymous.

At the same time you have Mr. Ethics Officer interested in you, Mr. Product Officer coming around "naming, wanting and getting" your product and "baiting and badgering" you to find your why and your chain of seniors scolding and yelling at you.

At the same time you will have management, those are Davies boys somewhere out there, developing programs for your 'org' designed to "slam in" production.

Also at the same time you have everyone in the 'org' going around hoping against hope that management does not declare "emergency - state of" in your 'org.' That's kind of like the imposition of martial law.

So does scientology's game sound like fun? Does it sound like something you want to do?

Oh and you lurking scientogists - how are your stats?

So if someone is carefull and starts slow and keeps a slow increase every week. Then take the plunge and go downstat, and start over again,
(s)he will get into ethichs problems for manipulating his/her stats..

There cant be any winners in this game, the only way to win is not to play.

Ultimately, the only stat that counts is cash: How much money did we bring in? All of the other stats are mean to support Gross Income, or GI.

The myth that stats, or GI, can and must increase infinitely is ruinous to any organization for it is a false assumption that that sales will expand infinitely and forever. There is always an absolute limit to any market size. Corporations set sales goals each year that are in line with the general economic growth of the nation or their particular market. When companies fall short, their annual report states that market conditions were tough and that sales were down. When sales are up over goal, managers and salespeople are rewarded. However, they dread the next year because a higher growth target is set. Eventually, a company fails to hit its goal, no one gets a bonus, and a company sets new and more realistic goals.

There is an inevitable sawtooth pattern in almost any company's stats, but the trend line in a well-managed company must increase steadily and realistically over time for the company to grow and succeed. At some point, sales will stagnate as market saturation is achieved or a few competitors dominate a mature market with roughly equal market shares. At some point, companies must purchase other companies in their market to gain further market share, or, they must diversify into other markets.

Sales growth is the basis of capitalism, and capitalism faces economic cycles. Any company that demands infinite growth in a down cycle could be said to be insane.

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The sales of any organization are affected by:

1. Economic cycles

2. A company's reputation, or lack thereof.

3. The quality of the company's product, or lack thereof.

4. The quality of the company's leadership, or lack thereof.

5. The ability of the company to launch new and innovative products.

6. The morale and focus of the salespeople.

7. The support given to the salespeople.

8. The market penetration of the company and its products.

9. The number of competitors and their quality of their products.

10. The "good will" a company possesses with its customers, vendors, its local community, and the local, state, and federal government.

11. A company's ability to purchase competitors or to diversify.

Scroll down to see how Scientology compares to these metrics.



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How does Scientology compare to these metrics?

1. Economic cycles -- CoS does not do well in economic downturns because Scientology auditing is not a necessity like food, clothing, and shelter. In a downturn, people skip vacations, luxuries, purchasing new cars, or donating large sums of cash for brutal Cult mind control programs.

2. A company's reputation, or lack thereof -- CoS' reputation is irreparably shot to hell. The Cult's infamous renown for sadistic, batshit-crazy insanity does not help its sales at all. That Charles Manson was a customer is negatively perceived.

3. The quality of the company's product, or lack thereof -- Imagine trying to sell vacation cruise packages to people who were rushing off The Titanic into the lifeboats. Such people would not be inclined to purchase their next ocean cruise. Scientology is the sinking Titanic and it is trying to sell people their next ocean cruise. That CoS can only sell the deluded 1950's-era ravings of the drug-addled Satanist L. Ron Hubbard is not exactly a plus you know. This is not a good product.

4. The quality of the company's leadership, or lack thereof -- Two words: David Miscavige. Having a sadistic SP as one's CEO is not the ideal scene.

5. The ability of the company to launch new and innovative products: Hmmm? The Super Power Project is twenty years old if we add in the five years of piloting prior to groundbreaking. DM cannot launch a product. All DM does is to re-release "remastered Ron."

6. The morale and focus of the salespeople -- Imagine trying to sell Scientology in the face of recession, Anonymous, and CoS' horrible reputation. This would be like trying to sell fireplaces in Hell.

7. The support given to the salespeople -- Sleep deprivation, face-ripping, sec checking, and the threat of RPF is is not motivational. Nor is a $40 a week salary that is paid only when there is money left over from all other expenses.

8. The market penetration of the company and its products -- Scientology is a monopoly. There appears to be 40,000 hardcore Scientologists in a world of 6,600,000,000 people. Stats at Flag are reportedly down 50%. Perhaps this means that there are now only 20,000 hardcore Scientologists.

9. The number of competitors and their quality of their products -- Scientology faces stiff competition from The Freezone. The FZ is less expensive and much nicer. The FZ has no RPF and no felony convictions as does Scientology.

10. The "good will" a company possesses with its customers, vendors, its local community, and the local, state, and federal government -- Scientology possesses "goodwill" in the same way that other criminal groups possess goodwill, i.e. the public has the goodwill that its law enforcement officials will arrest the leaders and put an end to their criminal enterprise.

11. A company's ability to purchase competitors or to diversify -- The FZ is not for sale. However, CoS gets an A for diversifying its mind control products and its hocus-pocus "purif" nonsense into drug treatment, criminal rehabilitation, education, and business consulting. That it had to often conceal the "Scientology" name from some of its efforts shows that even Scientologists are aware of how badly the name is perceived.

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J. Swift as usual makes many good points about scientology.

But I still want to do some taunting.



Now how come I was not that perceptive going into my ordeal with scientology? So far you are all coming up with A+.

Thursday at 2 has arrived along with the hustle and hurry up just preceding it. By the way very few scientologists have lunch on Thursdays because they are on a last minute stat push. This occurs even it they are well ahead of last week's score, although I never could figure that out.

I have to digress briefly. I don't know how but I managed to score a post where I was in charge with three or four people under me. We had to promote to the public to make them active. I ran my team by consensus and we covered each other's ass. We all managed to be upstat and we helped each other out to make sure we all made it every week. Three weeks in we were investigated for being upstat. Four weeks after that we got "unmocked" with the team disbursed into other areas where there was "greater need."

Early on we decided we would "hold the form of the 'org'" per policy. We agreed to rigidly stick to the daily schedule and not make an exception for Thursday unless the stats were in trouble. Week two we came up to 11:30. We checked - everybody's stats up? Great. Let's go to lunch.

We were heading out to go to lunch and the department head from the next department over met met us as we were leaving. "Where are you going?"

"We're going to lunch."

"But it's Thursday."

"Yeah? So?"

He explained that it was traditional to work through lunch on Thursdays and blah blah blah. We explained that our stats were well up and that we were holding the form of the org per policy. After several more minutes of arguing he went off shaking his head and we went to lunch. He probably wrote a knowledge report, too.

Back to what I was meaning to go into.

After Thursday at 2 if you are downstat you get a minimum of a visit from Mr. Ethics Officer who acts like Dracula when he's down a quart. This is well known and I really don't need to go into it.

What happens with those who are upstat? Upstats are supposed to get rewarded. Those who are really upstat are supposed to get auditing sessions, pay bonuses and other nifty things. If they get an ethics chit they can write "upstat" on it and the chit is supposed to be torn up and discarded. Well, that's what is supposed to happen.

When you are upstat you do get the pay bonus, but it could mean an extra thirty-five cents to two dollars on your pay. As to the rest, the first thing that happens is you take part in a muster for your section, department, division or whatever. At that muster production targets are set for the week and you had better get busy working on that right away and don't you know it because you have to get a higher stat come next Thursday. You don't have time for a session. You don't have time for time off. You don't have time for anything but production time.

One more thing. Even if there were time for you to have an auditing session you won't get one because there are too few auditors to go around. If there's anyone paying for auditing they will bump the staff that are scheduled. While I was in the only staff who got audited were those who somehow got the money to pay for it. There are a couple of horror stories connected with that but they are for another thread and if I get around to telling them.

So, lurking scientologists, Thursday at 2 has recently gone past. Another Thursday at 2 looms less than a week away. How are your stats?

Great post Wieber! I always make it a practice to loaf off and laugh for a few minutes every Thursday at 2, no matter where I am.

I recall one Thursday just before 2 when I was on the comps list (Scheduled to complete a service so it could be counted on the stats) for a level I had paid for. Unfortunatley, I was also an exec responsible for major stats. Robin Mattoon, who was FCCIPO (Flag Case Course Intensives Product Officer) at the time actually banged on the door and screeched at the top of her lungs for me to get back on post while I was attesting at the examiner! The examiner was a friend of mine, and we looked each other in the eye with a suppressed laugh and she told me my needle was floating. I am sure it was!

Since I was staff, my comp didn't count for FSO, but it counted for ITO. I wonder where Robin is now. She was raised in the Sea Org, and she looked like a living Barbie doll, long blond hair and big blue eyes. She came from money, she drove around the base in a little white jeep, always with the top down. Robin was cool.

I heard she got sent to INT or CC INT from Flag. She told me stories about the RPF, and being forced to clean the inside of the boilers in the basement of FH. She told me a lot of things. I would love to get in touch with her.

Here we are into the weekend and early into the scientology week. scientology staff members get some time off on Saturday and Sunday evening, unless there's an event, in which case it's all hands for both 'orgs.'

As well, those staff members who owe the 'org' extra time in the form of amends because their stats are down will likely be working off those amends in that time.

scientology staff and any other scientologists keeping stats, which is most of them, will have numbers from the first few days of the scientology week. They will have had three or four musters at different organizational levels.

There will have been the weekly staff meeting. Those were fun. "The world is in really bad shape. It's going down the tubes. Psychiatry is making things really bad. We are the world's only hope. It is up to you to make it go right on your post and reverse the world's downward spiral. To LRH! Hip . . ." There will have been divisional and departmental musters at the beginning of the day or evening at which targets (quotas) will have been set. If the targets aren't met there will be other meetings when the 'org' closes.

This time of the week is one of elation and anxiety, anticipation and the fear of disappointment. By this time in the week the average staff member will have 'outflowed' and 'inflowed' several dozen ronitudes: 'Make it go right.' 'The greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics.' 'Outflow is greater than inflow.' 'Necessity level.' 'Do it in a new unit of time.' Those are just a few.

Those who are upstat from the following week will be wondering how they can keep it up and how come they aren't getting a session and wasn't the staff pay a little on the thin side this week when my stats are up?

There is a lot going on in the early part of the scientology week. Very often it is what is produced in this part of the week that determines the final outcome on Thursday. Coming into Monday with lower than expected production (stats) produces considerable anxiety. If the stats at that time are good the seniors still put on pressure.

To those scientologists lurking on this message board, how are your stats?

Once my stats were up for the week, I really secretly hoped that last cycle would NOT get completed before Thursday at 2.

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"Once my stats were up for the week, I really secretly hoped that last cycle would NOT get completed before Thursday at 2."

You were not the only one who felt like this. I heard few staff member who said the same thing.

I remember a Course Supervisor who was "terrified" to get his stats too high because,so he said, how was he going to keep them in the same range in the next week and then the next week.................?

I must say that I myself didn't pay too much attention to my stats because I felt that I didn't have nuch control over it ( I pretended I cared to avoid ethics).

In my opinion the stats system is designed to fail you or as they say in Scientologese: to give you loses. It is impossible to keep the stats going up every week and all the time except, of course, in SCN propoganda at events when they show you the expansion graphs with all the HIGHEST EVERS and without any numbers on them to be able to compare them to previous years.

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