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My org had a backdoor which hardly anyone used.


That's OK... DM has a backdoor everyone in prison will use! :twisted:

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Jeez... this pretty much ensures all cult members end up bipolar, doesn't it? But I guess this is part of the breaking of independent personalities and creating mindless drones. I have seen the term Sci-lons used, but this stat thing is more like the Borg.

Somewhat telling to me though is the posts in this thread. Notice.... not one of the cult representatives who post here to disrupt have touched this thread. Is it a deeply ingrained fear of anything to do with 'stats'?

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Hey, derail away!

Ah, Wednesday!

Ennui sets in.

Funny that "ennui" never made it to the 'tone scale.' Here's a definition: "a feeling of utter weariness and discontent resulting from satiety or lack of interest; boredom: The endless lecture produced an unbearable ennui."

"A feeling of utter weariness and discontent." Yep, that's what sets in on Wednesdays.

Stats up or down the feeling is the same. Stats down is obvious why. Stats up feels that way, especially if the stats have been up and up trending for a long time. Stats up feels that way because stats up hasn't been getting the promised rewards from having stats up and stats up knows that he/she can't keep the stats up forever and eventually stats up will become stats down.

I've been throwing around the terms 'day org' and 'foundation org' without explanation. Within most scientology buildings there are two 'orgs.' The exception to this happens with 'orgs' that are just starting out or with small missions. The schedule for starting 'orgs,' small 'orgs' and missions is evenings Monday to Friday and days - 9 to 5 or 6 on Saturday and Sunday. The starting 'org' founds the 'org' in that location and so is called the 'foundation org.' Later when the 'org' grows it adds staff to operate it Monday to Friday during the day and is called the 'day org.'

(Day org! Day ay ay org! L. Ron lied and me wanna go home. (Sorry, couldn't hold it back,))

The 'foundation org' will finish its week tonight at 9 p.m. but since the week officially ends on Thursday at 2 if stats aren't up by 9 p.m. people will be putting in over time.

The academy course supervisor will already have a list of people he/she expects to complete and any that would otherwise finish their course on Friday or Saturday will be 'encouraged' to stay late tonight and do it now.

From now to Thursday at two you will hear the phrases 'the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics,' 'do it for Ron,' and 'make it go right' a lot. There are others but those will be the most used.

The 'day org' will be very busy as well. No one wants to come into the home stretch on Thursday morning with their stats in questionable shape. The mind set of most staff members will be going two ways right now. Those who are likely to be downstat will be in a funky panic because they know what's coming their way in terms of scolding, lower conditions, penalties and all that. Those who have their stats up already or who are in good shape to have them up will be looking to the next week and wondering if they can keep it up and for how long.

If you are upstat and have something lined up for next week that could be done before the week ends will have Mr. Product Officer coming by and making sure that product goes on this week's tally. This is especially true if that product directly involves money.

If you are a public person expect phone calls today and tonight. You could get calls from the registrar, the recruiter, the book store guy, someone in the department of clearing looking to your fsm (field staff member) activity, the person running the volunteer ministers, and the course supervisor just to name a few. These people in both the 'day org' and the 'foundation org' will be likely to phone public with a view to getting stats from their participation or from their money.

Tomorrow, Thursday at 2 is crunch time. How are your stats?

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So lurking scientologists. It's Thursday and 2 o'clock approaches.

How are your stats?

Are you fed up with the horse shit?

Go to any of the people picketing your 'org' this Saturday and ask for help. Get reconnected with people who really and actually care for you and love you. scientology does neither.

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Wieber, I've really enjoyed reading this. I don't enjoy the fact that it's what these people go through; I want to see that frantic crap ended NOW!

This is exactly what will make people still inside stop and think. It's one thing to say "critics are full of lies" but when the critics are saying EXACTLY what you observe every day, you can't forever stifle it.


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I think the correct thing to say right now is:

It's Thursday, just past 2 PM (west coast time). How WERE your stats? Down, again? Oh dear...

I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that!

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Ladybird wrote:
Every member has a stat and they are judged on their stats.
( ... )
The harder you try one week the harder you have to try the next week.

Like in sports. Win an olympic medal and you are a nation's hero. Be 2nd in the next world championship and you are considered a loser... ( but still the world's 2nd best. )

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Scientology operates on weekly statistics from Thursday at 2 until Thursday at 2. Nothing you ever did in the past matters after Thursday at 2.

Why this odd period? Stat periods ( in business ) are usually calendar periods like a week, month or quarter. Why does the week start at Thursday 2pm in Scientology? It is 2pm, right?


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Fanboy The Great And... wrote:
The whole thing is a sick, twisted violation of humanity.


" ... a violation of humanity ".

Exactly!


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Ok, this was the wrong thread to read this early in the morning.
I'm going to tap dance all over the obvious for a minute. I have to.

I understand these things are all part and parcel to mind control in degrees. But it seems no matter how well I get this, it's always a freaking profound realization of the obvious when I read these things. I get the 'lron was a genius' thing every time I hit one of these "if this had been deadly, we'd all be dead" profound in the obvious moments.

So to the obvious....
Aaaarggh
This is *classic* abuse. We saw this working with abused women day in and day out. All the classic tactics are here.
-creation of a no win situation
-vascillating behaviours, expectations and reward systems that leads to confusion and imbalance in the victim
-public criticism that leads to shame and humiliation
-private criticism that leading to doubt and hurt
-verbal threats that begin and reinforce the fear process
-threats of emotional or physical withdrawal triggering fears of abandonment
-withdrawal of support or financial power leading to plummets of self esteem
-tirades that lead to feelings of helplessness
all these eventually lead to physical aggression that lead to fears of physical pain and death.

As I read this thread, I kept thinking over and over "baby, why do you make me hit you?"

The whole shooting match is here - subtle power scale sliding that defines dominant and submissive positions, situations balanced by gestures, 'Positives' that the victim can cling to when the negative tactics bring realizations close to the surface that allow the victim to do their own programming, even little microcosmic manifestations of the cycle in real time - abuse from superiors leading to abuse to your subordinates.

Bleh.

Ok, I'm done stating the obvious and now I feel better.
I have these realizations over and over when looking at scientology and it never makes it to old hat. I never become immune. I still get struck by it in all it's horrific emotional glory.

I know this was gauged for scientologists, but you've just reminded a woman who worked with abused women but was too arrogant to realize her own abusive relationship at that time was turning her into the women she often got frustrated with that walking away is worth it, there really is a better life on the outside that we do deserve and have an innate right to reach for and attain.

And on that note, I'm going to go hug my husband before he leaves to go to work. Because right now, out of all his wonderful qualities, the simple fact he's not my ex in any way means the world right now.

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DISCONNECT FROM YOUR STATS.


Your life will improve. I guarantee it. Then come out and have some cake.

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The week ends tonight for the 'foundation org.'

What with Anonymous' epic picket on the weekend and Jason Beghe publicly and noisily leaving the so called church I am very glad I am not with scientology as a public or staff member for what is going on now and what will go on tomorrow before and after 2.

If you're a scientologist lurking here reading this, get a clue. You so called church hurts you. You had nothing to do with the recent events in the public arena outside your 'org.' Those events happened for reasons that are far beyond your control and there's no way you could know about those reasons anyway because you aren't allowed to look. But you will be held accountable and responsible. You will be punished for your down stats this week.

You can leave.

Enough of preaching. I have a little story about stats.

While I was making my reentry to being scientology public I met a man who worked with the part of the government that keeps statistics of all kinds on everything to do with the country. He gave me a booklet on it. It had comparative statistical information on the country over the several years. It had graphs, too.

Ooh, statistics! So I very much got into studying what was in this little booklet. Crime rates were down. Economic things were up. Educational levels were up. To summarize, in scientology's terms, the country was 'upstat' - 'affluence' in many areas - even 'power' in a couple.

To make conversation with the person I was dealing with who was at the executive level in the 'org' I brought up getting this little booklet and that from studying all the information in it I had to conclude that the country was 'upstat.'

Have you ever seen the expression on a person's face after they have been sucking on a lemon? Now take that face and imagine you have just struck the person hard on the back of the head with a two by four. (This is imaginary it didn't happen and I am not advocating violence here.) Now imagine getting the person to look up at the clouds on a very sunny day to find the one that looks like a bunny. If you can imagine that you will be very close to how that person looked in response to what I told them.

Hey, scientologist. Still lurking? How are your stats?

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Here are their stats!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106516/Ameri ... olics.aspx

:-({|= :D :roll: :lol:

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LOL Bernster! That is a REAL stat!!!!

Quote:
Three of the religious groups included in the survey are mostly viewed negatively, including Scientologists, atheists, and Muslims, with Scientologists having the lowest overall rating.
...
Groups such as atheists and Scientologists that rated negatively in 2006 are still rated negatively today, with similar scores over time in most cases.


If one were to apply the scientology conditions formula to it, having a flat graph (especially if it is flat below the bottom of the barrell at a -45 rating) would mean the cult was in a condition of "Danger":

- From 'Introduction to Scientology Ethics' by L. Ron Hubbard:

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A Danger Condition is normally assigned when:

1. An emergency condition has continued too long.
2. A statistic plunges downward very steeply.
3. A senior executive suddenly finds himself or herself wearing the hat
of the activity because it is in trouble.


The formula for the senior declaring a Danger Condition:


1. Bypass (ignore the junior normally in charge of the activity - handle
it personally)
2. Handle the situation and any danger in it
3. Assign the area where it had to be handled, a Danger Condition
4. Handle the personnel by Ethics Investigation and Committee of
Evidence (Committee of Evidence: A fact-finding group appointed and
empowered to impartially investigate and recommend upon Scientology
matters of a fairly severe ethical nature)
5. Reorganize the activity so that the situation does not repeat
6. Recommend any firm policy that will hereafter detect and/or prevent
the condition from recurring. The senior executive present acts and acts
according to the formula above.


So when is Davey going to stick his head out of his single malt scotch bottle and take over all these posts his juniors have totally f**ked up? I suppose it would be kind of hard to fit a public interview in between the 4 packs of Camels a day, the hangover in the morning and the McCallans the rest of the time...not to mention combing through PC folders for crimes and writing checks to lawyers and PIs as well as arranging ever more gruesome penalties for the staff and monitoring the internets for references to his shortcomings... Oh my!

Poor little Davey! (*) His life must be HELL!

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It kind of hit me in a speculative way last night.

With all the pickets, Jason Beghe leaving publicly and loudly, the giant ToryMagoo44 footbullet and everything else going on, most scientology staff members must be having the Devil's own time getting their stats up. Never mind affluence or power; getting into normal with a plus one from the week before must be tough.

Just for argument sake and because I'm familiar with that part of the organization, look at the body router, personality tester and public registrar. I would be surprised if anyone walking past their 'org' wasn't clued in to some extent. They will be dry. It would not surprise me to find out some of the people on staff are in an emergency situation where their weekly stat is zero. One benefit of this is the staff member is now immune to the danger condition.

The body router, the tester and the public registrar will not be allowed to say that the reason their stats are down is because Anonymous is picketing or because Jason Beghe left publicly or because Tory is doing regular Youtube videos or because the Tom Cruise videos were leaked or because Andrew Morton's book came out.

The people on those posts will undergo ethics and justice handling to determine what it is that they are doing and where there ethics are out in their life. They will be given lower conditions to do with all the attendant penalties.

Basically right now all the scientology staff members on the planet are between a rock and a hard place or they very soon will be.

If you could read the minds of these people you would be picking up a chorus of, "fuck it!" now and over the course of the next few days. Those people will be mopping floors, cleaning windows, scrubbing toilets, and doing a whole range of tedious physical tasks. While they are doing that and pondering why they are in that situation they will eventually have no choice but to conclude that their condition as a staff member really isn't their fault and that no matter what they do it will not improve. The only choice for them will be to leave.

This is speculation on my part but I am pretty sure that the staff blow rate right now is at an all time high. We may soon see a great many ex scientology staff coming here and finding things out. Some of them may start posting. Expect them.

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