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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:38 am 
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I've yet to see any legitimate scientist or doctor who agrees that the Purif or any of the wacky nutritional theories in scn are valid. Still waiting...


One of Ron's wacky nutritional foods was to drink yeast dissolved in water. One of the two doctors drank about a quart of that stuff every day. I saw them drink it.

Rice and beans with a yeast shake, mmmmm!

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Here we are on the first Thursday after the world wide May 10 picket.

Not that we care about stats, but from what I hear there were more picketers than ever out this time - double and triple numbers in some places. Then who's counting because with the pickets it's all about quality - and cake. (Mmmmm, caek!)

To be fair, you did have Tommy Davis tell everyone three times to go into a church of scientology, buy a book by L. Ron Hubbard, and visit scientology.org. Ooh! that Tommy Davis! He really made that injury around the eyes look work for him, didn't he?

Heber on 60 Minutes years ago berated Mike Wallace with, "You hit us, we grow! You hit us, we grow!" So Anonymous hit you with a world wide picket. Coupled with Tommy's encouraging words and oh, yes, Tommy Cruise's two part special Oprah appearances - well, every stat in every org must be out through the roof!

Every org in every town in every country must be in affluence of power now.

I don't really need to ask: How are your stats?

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entheta wrote:
I've yet to see any legitimate scientist or doctor who agrees that the Purif or any of the wacky nutritional theories in scn are valid. Still waiting...


The one that cracked me up, even when it was first released, was the idea that anyone who has taken LSD would have crystals of the stuff form in their system, which would randomly be released at a later date.

LSD survives in your system for about 15 minutes, and it is unstable at body temperature. The typical dose is around one ten thousandth of a gram.

Let's compare this to salt. You have at least 20 grams of salt in your body, 200,000 times as much as a dose of LSD. Have you ever cut into a piece of meat and found salt crystals? Of course not. And yet, the odds of salt crystals in flesh would be 200,000 squared, or 40 billion times higher, than the chances of finding an LSD crystal in the body. And that's totally disregarding the fact that LSD is unstable at body temperature and could never survive there for long.

It's all quackery and pseudoscience.


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Any drug that is water soluble is very quickly eliminated from the body and does not accumulate anywhere in it.

Now, since it's Thursday and 2 is approaching I must say this to OSA about Davie: OSA . . . you know.

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Great thread on stats here... wow, dug up from the back pages, yet still smells like win...

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Their 'stats' don't look so good now, huh? :lol:


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One of the lower conditions - I think it's liability - has as part of its formula the comparison of 'stats' between the two groups one has to decide between. Of course, it's a forgone conclusion that the scientology parisioner/staff member/sea organization member/celebrity/etc. will choose the scientology group.

However, there is the possibility that a person doing the 'liability formula' could choose to be with wogs, anonymous, big pharma, psychiatry, the Republican Party or their own family instead of scientology.

For the lurking scientologist, contemplating the liability formula, I suggest you take a look at your own personal statistics and how they have derived from the group you belong to - namely scientology.

Is your weight optimum for your height? Have you got all your teeth? Do you have a monetary reserve set aside for the day the org will route you off staff? Do you have a really nice place to live? Do you get days off? Do you get a full eight hours of sleep every night? Do you eat well? Have you had a holiday - 2 weeks off in a row - since you joined staff? Have you got a university degree or a college diploma? Do you have a high school diploma?

If you are right now countering those questions with going on about the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics, consider this: How can you give of yourself if you have nothing of yourself to give?

On a very personal level, taking into account what is best for you, how are your stats?

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If you are right now countering those questions with going on about the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics, consider this: How can you give of yourself if you have nothing of yourself to give?


^^ THIS

Made of pure win.

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One of the lower conditions - I think it's liability ...

It's Doubt. Here it is:

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1. Inform oneself honestly of the actual intentions and activities of that group, project or org, brushing aside all bias and rumor.
2. Examine the statistics of the individual, group, project or org.
3. Decide on the basis of “the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics” whether or not it should be attacked, harmed or suppressed or helped.
4. Evaluate oneself or one’s own group, project or org as to intentions and objectives.
5. Evaluate one’s own or one’s group, project or org’s statistics.
6. Join or remain in or befriend the one which progresses toward the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics and announce the fact publicly to both sides.
7. Do everything possible to improve the actions and statistics of the person, group, project or org one has remained in or joined.
8. Suffer on up through the conditions in the new group if one has changed sides or the conditions of the group one has remained in if wavering from it has lowered one’s status.

I once did a Doubt Formula and the answer for me became "Leave the Sea Org and go back to where you were last doing well." The key to this answer came when instead of looking at the dynamics as "those things over there", I looked at MY eight dynamics. They had all crashed since I joined the Sea Org. So I had to get out. After all, LRH's tech said I should. Of course, no one else in the Sea Org was real pleased with my decision.

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Thanks for that, Sea Horse. I would just like to add that once you leave scientology you don't have to do these 'conditions' any longer. Once you leave scientology you are not bound by anything L. Ron Hubbard wrote or said, just as you are no longer bound by scientology. the organization. When you leave those bonds fall away.

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Wieber wrote:
Thanks for that, Sea Horse. I would just like to add that once you leave scientology you don't have to do these 'conditions' any longer. Once you leave scientology you are not bound by anything L. Ron Hubbard wrote or said, just as you are no longer bound by scientology. the organization. When you leave those bonds fall away.

That's correct. I don't use ANY of the Scientology technology anymore -- no stats, no conditions, no admin scales, no nuttin honey. But it was indeed L. Ron Hubbard's Doubt Formula which got me to decide to leave the Sea Org. Thanks, Ron!

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But it was indeed L. Ron Hubbard's Doubt Formula which got me to decide to leave the Sea Org. Thanks, Ron!


LULZ!

Delicious irony is delicious ^_^

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You want some more irony?

My first wake up call was reading this gem by L. Ron Hubbard.

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The pattern that persists is the pattern that persists in the physical universe.


That's pretty much exact but it may have since been edited to take the suppressiveness out of it.

After I read that over three or four times my response was, "so that means I'm stuck body routing with next to no pay no way to pay off my debts and I'm not going to get any training or auditing to go up the bridge. F**k!"

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Since I was doing stuff in division six when I was on staff let me wax nostalgic (wait there's not nostalgia there) about stats. It's Thursday and 2 o'clock is nigh.

How are your new people in, new names to CF and public reg paid starts? It must be a slog to get those stats up now.

Oh, well, I'll just have another sip of my cappuccino and another bite of my biscotti. Ah, life is good (when you're "out" of scientology.)

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From another thread on this message board it was reported that Stu Wyatt was arrested for an alleged assault on a scientologist. I will leave it to that thread to develop and to report on the events that ensue related to that.

However J. Swift made this comment about Stu's arrest.
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Our posting on Stu's arrest got some OSA Fucks their stats.


Ah, this arrest has to do with stats. So right now there are some people involved with scientology's office of special affairs who are in a state where they are feeling a high degree of smug satisfaction at finally getting their stats up.

While you are high fiving each other at your blow against Anonymous, allow me to comment on this as an aside. As you become a scientologist you set aside your national identity. Stu is a Brit as are the members of Anonymous he associates with. The Brits were not intimidated by all of Hitler's luftwaffe thrown at them during the blitz. Do you think a little thing like what is happening with Stu is going to make them back off? You can't now come back and say you are Brits, too. You aren't. The fact that you have become scientologists and to the degree that you have means that you have eschewed your national identity. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Back to stats.

So scientology got up their office of special affairs number of blows against the enemies of scientology stat. They are probably celebrating. David Miscavige is probably nodding with that grim smile and his diamond sparkling eyes. "Oh, yeah, baby! We got ourselfs (sic) an SP!"

But let me remind you, gentle scientologist, this is not you're valuable final product nor does the statistic attached to it have anything to do with your valuable final product.

The statistics that have a bearing on your valuable final product are gross income along with new names to central files, public reg paid starts, book sales to raw public and bodies in the shop. How are those statistics?

Here we are on Thursday with two o'clock swiftly approaching. Anonymous is right now in the preparatory stages of hoisting the colors for the coming weekend. You are about to receive the black spot. Are you ready? How are your stats?

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