Rang, emailed and protested to youtube and Google re Xenutv and tory.

Favourite-d (is there such a word?) xenutv and torymagoo 44 videos on my youtube channel

Had business type cards printed to be surreptiously distributed around work and the local book stores/Borders. (BTW, 250 cards printed free at vistaprint.com per transaction, I just pay P&P)

Told EVERYONE I know and care about to check out xenu.net

Pinched a great idea from Hoot and am having some cheap bookmarks made up to slip inside Scio books everywhere I find them for sale.

Made myself aware of this danger, so I can be ready when people refer to CoS as just silly or crazy or harmless.


It's a start.....

"Perhaps the discomfort you feel is because you are going
down a path Smitty and I feel is counterproductive and
you don't have a good argument against our position. "
-Os

I am having a hard time understanding why you think
that worldwide protests against scientology are
counterproductive.

I and my other half have gone to all of the Anonymous protests. I have written letters to my representatives on the tax exempt status. I have told people about Scientology and many times get negative reactions to Scientology before I even need to go further. I am putting flyers in all my postage paid envelopes and hopefully spreading the word that way.

Every little bit that is being done on ALL fronts IS adding up to REAL change

Dear HM,

I don't know what happens in other countries where Scientology is not a protected religion. I am only finding fault with what is happening HERE. I am not finding fault with the idea of organized protests, only with specific "loopholes" in OUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY which work to Scientology's advantage.

Please read my posts which contain enquoted US CODE. Also, read my post on the thread about anonymous and Tory shutting down Scientology's street scene. I quoted US Code in that thread too, as well as referring directly to Keith Henson's unsuccessful gambit of picketing Scientology.

Anonymous has committed crimes against Scientology. These crimes are being used against all the critics by Scientology to PAD A CASE that Scientology is being victimized by the critic movement. All Scientology needs to prove is that a normal person would be intimidated by what has been happening, and guess what? A normal person would be.

This cannot be undone by redefining or spin doctoring who or what anonymous is and how they are "not committing crimes now", which is irrelevant and arguable.

When the critics of Scientology visit events organized by anonymous at Scientology premises, they are becoming enablers, accomplices, and at least "comrades in arms" to a group which gloated over DoS attacks, Pizza Bombs, black faxes and other threats and violations. THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE. When Scientology is being prevented from engaging in their legal right to spread the word about their "religion", our own people are now complicit in breaking a law. I am cringing at this, HM. I really don't want Tory to end up like Henson. But she very well could.

Fact is, Tory stuck her neck out and didn't wear a mask at an anonymous event. So SHE WAS IDENTIFIED as one of the people that by HER OWN ADMISSION DROVE SCIENTOLOGISTS AWAY FROM THEIR NORMAL ACTIVITY OF PROSELYTIZING IN FRONT OF THEIR FACILITY. I quoted the relevant US CODE which covers that. Henson did much less than Tory, and was quite a bit less threatening and destructive than anonymous. Yet he ended up wasting his resources in a fight against Scientology which is only of interest to Scientologists and the critics of Scientology.

I am not against pickets, but I am against pickets where the advantage goes to Scientology instead of to critics. I think if we are going to picket, we need to do it in such a way as the advantage goes to us.

I am advising against picketing with anonymous folks in Guy Fawkes Masks or other disguises AT SCIENTOLOGY PREMISES in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA where Scientology is a LEGAL RELIGION. Scientology has got the legal high ground here you guys. I am not making this up. You might not like hearing it, but it is nonetheless true.

I am advising instead for unmasked critics to PICKET YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THEIR OFFICES, and write many letters to your congresspeople. The law which allows Scientology to operate as a religion needs to be changed. Most people do not care one way or the other. But our elected officials will care when 300 people stand outside their office before their election and complain that their concerns are not being addressed.

The fact that this critic community is adverse to approaching our lawmakers to redress our grievance with their laws is sticking in my craw. It almost appears as if the critics, anonymous and all the ex Scientologists do not have any REAL EVIDENCE OR COMPLAINT WITH SCIENTOLOGY. Otherwise, why would they be adverse to taking a tack which would RESULT IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA COVERAGE, EMBARRASS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS INTO SOME KIND OF STATEMENT OR ACTION, AND STAND A CHANCE OF BEING EFFECTIVE TOWARDS EFFECTING OUR STATED GOALS?

Instead, they are following the lead of a group flying the flag of an EPIC FAIL which is being spun off as some kind of Robin Hood fantasy on webblogs.

If you didn't understand what I just said, perhaps you could narrow your question so I can focus better.

Love and Respect and Gratitude for all YOU HAVE DONE, HM- which is A LOT.

I believe HM has done so much that I recommend all HM posts to anybody who visits this board.

Except the ones that make me look like an idiot.

Ignore those.


Os

All I have done is made my website.
Almost forgot: Sent a letter to the Justice Department and the National Coördinator Against Terrorism about the terrorist threat made by DM during the 2007 New Years Eve Event!

Peter

My Congress critter, Senator, and Governor back in Kansas are sick of hearing from me by now with all that about Scientology and all those Downsizer D.C. mailings I sent them. Their California counterparts are going to get sick of me soon too. I ask them to investigate Scientology's fraud and criminal activity mostly. (I'm not even going into taxation again.)

However, I don't like the idea of government assistance in taking down the Co$. If they are breaking the law and hurting people, that needs to be stopped and at the moment the only way to achieve that is though government. I think the most effective way, and it's showing itself to be the case with ever defeat they face so far, is free market tactics.

Holding a sign has done more to stop Scientology's fraud and abuse than begging a politician and/or bureaucrat.

os and smitty don't care for anonymous, but that's okay. they won't stop us from protesting and doing whatever we can to dismantle this cult.

this is my list just off the top of my head.

i have either phoned and/or emailed and/or sent snail mail to the following organizations, governmental offices, media, and people:

amnesty international (STILL waiting for the national office in nyc to determine if they can help us. i'm calling them tomorrow to ask them to watch jenna and astra's AWESOME nightline show.)
fbi
fdc
pinellas co. sheriff's dept.
cwpd
mountain view, california police department
fda-florida and california
justice league of tampa
all of my senators and representatives here in florida
senators from vermont, massachusetts, and california
aarp
nbc
abc
cbs
60 minutes
cbs sunday morning
NIGHTLINE!!!!
the colbert report
the daily show
can't remember the name of the show, but i sent a comment to the new show with leah remini
oprah winfrey
fox news
all the local tv stations and many of the radio stations
st. pete times
tampa tribune
orlando sentinel
time magazine
newsweek
i also try to digg and comment on important articles
i leave the anonymous business cards EVERYWHERE
i've passed the anonymous business cards on to my friends who also leave them EVERYWHERE
i've PEACEFULLY protested in orlando and clearwater. i'll be in illinois for the may 10th protest, so i'm taking a 5 hour train ride to chicago to protest.
i've done some surveillance at a few of the $cifag-owned properties here in clearwater.

i gave my "$cientology is a cult" speech to all my family and friends many years ago. i've given them all refresher courses since anonymous has declared war on the cult.

i've also been PM'd here in clambake and over in enturb by people asking for help and/or giving me info. it's been my honor to help them and if i haven't been able to help them, i have tried to find people who can.

WEREN'T JENNA AND ASTRA AND HER DAD WONDERFUL ON NIGHTLINE TONIGHT? i'm in awe of the whole show.





E D I T E D because i just saw os' last post.

os, people have REPEATEDLY given you the real information on what happened with the ddos attacks. there has been NO proof that any anonymous were responsible for the other terroristic attacks on the church! the fbi was called BY ANONYMOUS when the cult first reported that LIE. the cult didn't bother to call the fbi or any other law enforcement agency when they said this stuff happened---the contacted the MEDIA first.

i'm not sure why you refuse to see these facts. people have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you all have refused to gracefully back off of this bashing of anonymous!

i have come to a conclusion about why you all are doing this: you're jealous. you don't want the cult to be dismantled with anonymous' help. you want the cult to be dismantled by the OG and you other 'bakers and the ex-$cientologists. it's not enough that the majority of the anons ADORE the OG and the ex-$cieno's from here on clambake. they have the utmost respect for these people and are amazed at the perseverance these people have shown in fighting against $cientology in relative obscurity. it's not enough that anonymous gives props to all these people. it's not enough that anonymous wishes to remain anonymous and WILL NEVER GET ANY GLORY FROM THEIR FIGHT! it's not enough that anonymous just wants to get this job done and then get on with their lives.

respect is a two-way street, os. you do nothing but bash anonymous. i no longer have any respect for you or smitty any more. i've tried to give you all the benefit of the doubt, but that's over. i'm disgusted that you continue this childish bashing in the face of overwhelming evidence in the favor of anonymous.

step back and look at how many people you've convinced in your constant bashing of anonymous. so far, i've seen NONE.

shame on you and smitty for this behavior.





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Smitty and OS, you 2 are getting on my last nerve. Please stop worrying about what everybody else is doing or not doing...if you see something that needs to be done, JUST DO IT!!!!

Os and Smitty are the antithesis of the quote, what if they had a revolution and nobody came?

I can only speak for myself, and not living in the US I don't even know how officialdom works over there. But in my country, if 300 people congregated outside our local MP's (Member of Parliament) office, on a Saturday (when most protesters are available) we'd be most likely picketing outside an empty building, as our MP would either be a) at home with their family or b) in the nation's capital, running the country.

I can't see the benefit in protesting outside an empty electoral office, when standing outside a Scientology centre, peacefully holding signs asking members to think about loved ones they've been forced to disconnect from, has a much greater impact.

There's no reason why we can't combine a campaign of lobbying officials and peacefully protesting outside Cult HQ all over the world. The argument that the general public sees Anonymous as scary masked terrorists is ludicrous. There have been three co-ordinated worldwide protests, with not an inkling of violence from any Anons. The amount of interest in the media has gone through the roof, all due to the awareness raised by the Anons and OG protesters. This would never have happened if we focussed solely on trying to educate officials. It hasn't worked in the past, at least not at anything like the same levels. People who had never even thought about Scientology are now aware of the criticisms and are forming opinions and making choices based on the wealth of press and online discussion, videos etc.

* I mean no disrespect to the OG, your tireless efforts over the years inspired a new generation. But most of you would agree that the campaign to stop the crimes of Scientology has snowballed since the leaking of THAT video in January.

I have been writing to as many media outlets as I can get my hands on and taking part in protests

OS and Smitty

here is a call out

WHAT CRIMES???

just repeating this line over and over doesn't make it any more true

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
show me the court doc of ONE Anon being convicted for CRIMES AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY

oh wait... there are none..huh imagine that

to mangle an old phrase

Typists - type
Anonymous - delivers

need to throw in old pic

Dear Daywatch

Haven't you heard? Anyone who opposes the Cult of Scientology is a criminal. LRH said so. It must be true.