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 Post subject: EO wants to know - Is this real
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:58 pm 
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You are Invited to the August 8 th, 8 pm Special bay area SF Anonymous

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Everyone from the bay area are invited, San jose, Sacermento,Mountain view and any other places that are with in driving distance. All Anonymous exscientologist or people that will help stop scientology from harming people may come.

You are Invited to the August 8 th, 8 pm Special bay area SF Anonymous appreciation and awards dance party and Scientology Reformation Presentation on a 62 foot Power Yacht in the Sausalito area presented by FACTnet : Cult, Cults, Abuse by Religions, Abuse Recovery Discussion & Resources, Peer-Support, Legal support. See Factnet’s mission at FACTnet Mission Statement .







This party --- a special Anonymous SF recognition event is mainly for those individuals also interested in forwarding legal and peaceful means of educating about scientology’s human rights abuses and holding its executives personally responsible to pay restitution for all harms they have caused to all Scientology victims.



In spite of recent rumors to the contrary, Factnet.org seeks ONLY to find better ways to collaborate and co create with those parties within Anonymous and the x scientology member and other groups in an open, peer to peer and self-organizing fashion and, who want to deal with Scientology and its abuses --- and, who also see that their independent efforts might benefit from knowledge and resources found in Factnet. We fully realize that there are many factions within Anonymous who are not interested in the Scientology protests by other Anon members and we respect that as well. Just as we respect that there are many x scientology members who for one reason or another do not wish to be involved in the efforts to reform scientology.



In an open, peer to peer, self-organizing fashion Factnet has collaborated and co-created with many diverse independent individuals, groups and organizations over the years. We hope that at this event we might find a way to better support and work with those independent individuals and factions within Anonymous and other x scientology member groups around the world who might value our support and who might also teach us and who use only peaceful and legal means.



For years Factnet has successfully dealt primarily with Scientology and other cult survivors who now are highly independent individuals because in part they have suffered from authoritarian abuse and high control techniques. Because of this they no longer want anything to do with authoritarian or controlling people and organizations ever again. We know that members of Anonymous are also highly independent individuals. Factnet seeks no control or authority related to any Scientology education work. We know that this is not only the best way, but in truth ---the only way after what we have learned in 17 years of diverse success experience working with highly independent individuals and organizations in open, self-organizing and peer to peer relationships.



Surprise physical or telephonic guests!



There may be 1 or 2 very special quite famous guests attending that will help rock Scientology’s world and the night! Rumor has it that even L Ron Hubbard himself may appear in some form if we can keep Xemu away from the chips J.



Lot’s of RSVPS are starting to roll in. We will stop taking RSVPs when or if we hit 90 people. Right now we are at about 35.



We will email all RSVP updates and the final location of the boat after they RSVP. We ask that you do not post the location. Only those who have RSVPed will get the event location via email.





What Not to Bring on Das Boat



Any Illegal Substances or Illegal Thing of any Kind! Also, no Alcohol we are going to be dry so the many 18-21 year old Anons can attend. In the past Scientology Operatives have been alleged to have called in all kinds of false underage drinking, sex offense or other bogus emergencies reports to the police in an effort to get the police to disrupt an event they deal against their interests. Not to worry the local police know me and my history with cults and they will be fully updated on the event and possible stunts by Scientology.



What you Could be Thinking about or better yet Sending me on your Scientology Reformation Ideas on Before the Event



I really want to know what is your legal and peaceful plan for reforming Scientology and have it pay restitution to ALL its victims --- and, convincing whoever is behind this mind control experiment and foreign intelligence gathering operation using unsuspecting cult members to abandon this type of covert military research and intelligence gathering operation forever!



What is really important is “the how” of the detail and sequences of steps that can be shared among the willing x Scientology members, other interested parties and governments and Anon people around the world? Take a shot at addressing tough questions like how we will gather evaluate and share information on line when Scientology and other sources will be using some of the most talented hackers and covert operations people they have to shut down, corrupt, discredit and disrupt us at every turn.



Let me know what are the ethical guidelines and winning attitudes that we should hold as standards for our behavior to do this is such a way that we become the next Nelson Mandelas and Gandhis for this new Information and Control age!



Please let me know parts of your plan that you are willing to do as well. Send your plan to Wollersheim@msn.com



What to Wear:



If you want to keep you identity secret wear you Anonymous disguises. Wear your disguises as we also will be videoing the whole event to share on the net. If there is a mole in your SF group or this leaks somehow to Scientology, there may be Scientology people in the parking lots and outside on the water's edge 125 yards away taking pictures.



You might even want to take the bus, car pool or park away from the main parking lot for the harbor and marina in case they are here and photo your license plates. Put your disguises on after you leave your transportation and eat your snacks from behind your masks.



I ask you to help me and Factnet say no to fear. Let’s make this an amazing event and party and thumb our noses at their stupid ineffective tactics.



What to bring:



Bring a coat as it can get cool on the decks. Bring something you like to snack on. There was a bit of a re-vote and we decided no Alcohol in spite of earlier saying we were going to have it. We are going to be dry so the many 18-21 year old Anons can attend. We will have some snacks here, but not enough.



Bring cameras and video recorders. We are going to want to share what happens at this event with Anonymous and x and current Scientology people all over the world.



Please bring the music that you most like to hear and dance to on CD or iPods. (The boat has an amazing sound system and we will just drop your stuff into the system.)



Ride Sharing:



A few people need rides from the city so if you have a car and can take extra riders let me know and let the other SF anonymous people attending know.



During and End of Event Volunteer Help



If you can help as a volunteer keep thing rolling with everything from greeting people to clean up let me know that as well. We also need someone knowledgeable to come early and be the music meister. That person would work on music for the party parts of the evening! They would need to come early to learn the boat’s system.



Last words, Factnet will be giving out awards to individuals who have shown particular creativity and courage in peacefully and lawfully protesting and educating about scientology. So if you have anyone you think in the SF area should be recognized [please send their name and what they have done.



If you’re going to bring a video camera and can help with video editing let me know ASAP as we want to get the whole event on the net for the other Scientology reformation groups as soon as possible. I do need some people dedicated to helping with the event videoing.



Who specifically is not invited?



Scientology fake defectors and fake x members, Scientology private investigators, Scientology moles in the SF anonymous group. Therefore network this invitation to those individuals you have a high confidence are not on our “Who is not invited list.”



If we discover anyone on the “Who is not invited list” at the event we will immediately ask them to leave or call and have the police remove them. AND, I or my team reserves the absolute right to ask anyone to leave that we do not feel good about or who is attempting to disrupt the event for any reason! As far as we are able, I want this event to be uninterrupted by Scientology idiots and a good party energy.



We will be posting all the video from the event on the net so it would be really dumb for Scientology operatives to show up to gather Intel, but they are really dumb so they most likely will anyway! Once they do then we can show them the 10 times rule in case they still do not get it. Oh Yea, the 10 times rule of legal and peaceful protest is that if one party tries something dumb or intimidating then the protesting party multiplies their protest and educational efforts by 10. Sooner or later they will learn to stop their unethical tactics designed to create fear and intimidation.



Rumor Update:



I have heard that someone has been implying that the Factnet/Anon appreciation collaboration and co-creation exploration party is a Scientology trap. This is just stupid or highly uniformed or maybe even Scientology trying to keep people away because they sense what will happen if there is more co-creation and collaboration between their adversaries. Here is something that I recently emailed someone who is in a position to help stop this ridiculous rumor.



“This event is being cosponsored by the non profit FACTnet : Cult, Cults, Abuse by Religions, Abuse Recovery Discussion & Resources, Peer-Support, Legal support For 17 years Factnet has been one of the biggest educators on Scientology. See Factnet’s mission at FACTnet Mission Statement



I Lawrence Wollersheim am a director of Factnet and will be doing part of a presentation before the party. Scientology considers me to be one of the 3 biggest SPs of all time. And, I just won my 6th lawsuit against Scientology.



As you can see, anyone spreading this particular grossly false and goofy rumor to scare people away from the event either has no idea about what they are talking about, has a some personal hidden agenda or is part of or is working for Scientology.”



Please help us get accurate information to anyone spreading this foolish and/or mean spirited rumor by getting the above information to them. If they continue spreading the rumor after you have offered information that logically contradicts their position, please let me know who they are. Also, please post and network this updated invitation anywhere that SF anons will see it so they can make up their own individual minds on attending.”



Scientology will not stop this event!



The most important thing to realize is that the educational, protest and legal work (and even our related parties and planning events,) that we do should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be affected by either false, over hyped or even legitimate fears of Scientology. Scientology uses hyped up fear and mystery as its main weapons to try stop people from working together and reforming it. But that does not work the minute you say, “screw you Scientology, I will NEVER be stopped or slowed by fear or the mystery of your history or your current stupid and ineffective intimidation tactics. I will do this work have more fun than you can imagine and link up in a supportive team with everyone you most want to keep me from working with --- so just screw you for even trying those tired-ass and useless fear and mystery tactics on me!”



If Scientology shows up and tries anything, we will have to simply get out in front of their celebrity’s homes and events with our protests and release 10 times more information about their human rights abuse particularly relating to David Miscavige their leader and Tom Cruise.



Hope to see you there!



Best,



Lawrence Wollersheim

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For FACTnet : Cult, Cults, Abuse by Religions, Abuse Recovery Discussion & Resources, Peer-Support, Legal support


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:47 pm 
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This looks real. I'm really looking forward to seeing the videos. If OSA knows whats good for them they won't cause any trouble.

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I don't see anything about this posted on the FACTNET site.


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Jerald wrote:
I don't see anything about this posted on the FACTNET site.
I don't see it anywhere on Enturb.org either.

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JonDoe wrote:
Jerald wrote:
I don't see anything about this posted on the FACTNET site.
I don't see it anywhere on Enturb.org either.


It's over there Red Pill,

http://forums.enturbulation.org/123-lea ... ous-24852/

They seem to be just as confused as we are about it.


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Maybe it is real. Then again it could be something that might come under what J. Swift called the Aug thru Sept. 15 "Scientology High Strangeness Alert!"

Should be checked into as carefully as possible to make sure it isn't some scieno trick!

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Real or fake, why would anybody in their right mind attend this thing?

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That was one of the weirdest, most disjointed things I’ve read in a long time. It reeks with scientology… like a stench, to me. I do not know Wollersheim, but heard of his cases as far back as when I was still in during the early ‘80’s. I PRAY he is not the real writer of that post! Illiterate doesn’t begin to describe. What to wear? Who is NOT invited? “Special” guest/s? An 65’ yacht?

OMG.

This has to be some sort of sick joke.

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I know it was meant in a different context but I have to admit every time I read this line I have to laugh!

supposed FACTnet ad wrote:
Surprise physical or telephonic guests!



It reads like some silly claim from an 80's k-tel tv ad for some wacky device! Surprise them with what I don't know! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Seems like it is real, an anon wrote Lawrence and Lawrence replied

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I understand and respect your perspectives…

Factnet's agenda is not hidden. In its 17 years of trasparent non profit service right back to bulletin boards before the web it never has been And, it is going to be revealed even more in full at the event in regards to Scientology and all factions trying to deal with Scientology. See FACTnet Mission Statement

Relating to this event, it starts with how can we co-creatively cooperate as part of a "team member" with all of the factions that want to reform Scientology, get restitution for all its victims and stop the dangerous mind control experiment. The key parts of the shared ideas from both Anon members, other groups and Factnet from the event will be on the net for all factions within a day or so. Non profits do not compete! Collaboration with similar mission organizations is a stable part of the effective history of non profits all over the world. Non profits do not take over other organizations they co create and collaborate and maximize resource effencies because they are usually so poor and understaffed.

I will personally donate to a small amount SF anon's legal and peaceful efforts if you send me where to send a check to and what transparency controls you have for how SF anons donated funds are used. We will still be giving you an award at the event because you have been nominated and you deserve it and that’s part of what Factnet does. Factnet cannot donate unless you are a 501c3 IRS approved nonprofit just cause that is the law for non profits.

Maybe you want to send someone to the event to represent your position. They would of course, be welcome as everything Factnet does is open for all to inspect, dialog on and critique.

Out of respect for you and your positions this will be my last email with you so you do not misperceive my seeking co-creative collaboration as handling. I will though shortly be handling a false rumor being spread that the event is a Scientology trap. If you know of anyone passing this destructive lie or anything like it please consider sending me their email address so that I may address this matter privately

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Ohmygoodness. Interesting!

First of all... won't attendees have to run a gauntlet, in a very real sense, to even get there? It's some kind of critic symposium, on a boat? (That's unsettling, just because on the surface of things, it's how Scientology likes to do it!)

Thinking about it, on so many levels, I'm not sure how one could be "anon" and go. Can't accept an award by name, can't accept individual honors, can't be awarded any funds (WTF is that about, anyway?), and can't represent the herd, by definition. Individual recognition is considered divisive within Anon.

Naw, can't have any anons there, again, by definition. Only those who want to join the named critic community in an official capacity, which officially distinguishes one from the "hivemind."

I'm certainly not issuing any prohibitions or discouragement... I don't even care, really, but in the theoretical sense, it seems like a bad deal for Anons to be involved with.

My $.02, worth nothing!

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Does this have anything to do with "8/8/08...boom"?

...and, has this 62 ft. vessel been cleared of all blue asbestos?


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I have some real odd feelings about this. First off did anyone notice how FACTnet is a cosponsor or this event? So who else in involved? And where are the press notices?

It's a very long email that really doesn't say much. Does anyone here know Larry and how he writes and think??

I would pass because there's nothing here that makes any sense. Asking a group that can number in the hundreds to a boat party? For an award that they would see as Ego?

I could be wrong but something just doesn't seem right.


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soy milkman wrote:
Does this have anything to do with "8/8/08...boom"?

...and, has this 62 ft. vessel been cleared of all blue asbestos?


Now that's a great question Soy, Has the news about Anon's 8/8/08 plans been out long enough for this boat party to have been set up?

I have to sound paranoid, but if Anon had something planed for that date could this be ment to get them out lf the area they had intended to go to?


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