Scientific Doctors Hammer Rehab Industry and AA as ineffective

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Scientific Doctors Hammer Rehab Industry and AA as ineffective

Post by Don Carlo » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:56 pm

Interesting site, spacecootie. I didn't know about hypocrisy, lies, copyright fights and muddled legal entities in Alcoholics Anonymous.
An AA-type group is frequently shown in the TV show Elementary about recovering addict Sherlock Holmes in New York City with Lucy Liu as Watson, first as Sherlock's sobriety support person and then his detective partner. So far the AA-type group is shown as benign and effective-if-followed, but...is it? They should solve a murder that requires unmasking Alcoholics Anonymous!

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Scientific Doctors Hammer Rehab Industry and AA as ineffective

Post by spacecootie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:19 pm

Don Carlo wrote:So far the AA-type group is shown as benign and effective-if-followed, but...is it?
AA may be valuable to some people, but it can be destructive to others.

Since there's nobody policing the AA members, it can be a very dangerous place for the vulnerable.

http://www.propublica.org/article/how-a ... r-violence

In many ways, AA is similar to the original Dianetics groups established in the 'fifties. Both are basically autonomous, and revolve around a book full of bloated language and half-baked theories, written by an egomaniacal charlatan.

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Scientific Doctors Hammer Rehab Industry and AA as ineffective

Post by spacecootie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:59 pm

I hadn't looked at the Orange site for a while, and was interested to revisit some of the similarities between AA and Scientology.

When I read this:
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"Unless each A.A. member follows to the best of his ability our suggested Twelve Steps to recovery, he almost certainly signs his own death warrant."
Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, William G. Wilson, page 174.
I immediately thought of this:
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"If you leave this room after seeing this film, and walk out and never mention Scientology again, you are perfectly free to do so. It would be stupid, but you can do it. You can also dive off a bridge or blow your brains out. That is your choice."
Orientation, Church of Scientology (1989)
Edited 5/10/2015
Reason: fixed broken link to picture of Larry Anderson in Orientation.
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Scientific Doctors Hammer Rehab Industry and AA as ineffective

Post by Don Carlo » Sun May 10, 2015 3:13 am

The Rehab Racket: The Way We Treat Addiction Is a Costly, Dangerous Mess, by John Jones, Mother Jones, http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ic-drugged

A death at a non-Narconon rehab place, showing how unregulated the industry is.

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Scientific Doctors Hammer Rehab Industry and AA as ineffective

Post by Don Carlo » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:23 pm

Big headline and article on cover of paper New York Times Science section today: Rehab Rooted in Science.

Same article online: For Mark Willenbring, Substance Abuse Treatment Begins With Research, by Gabrielle Glaser, Feb. 22, 2016, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/scien ... front&_r=0

The article is harsh about ineffective faith-based and rigid drug treatment, that ignore new science.

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