You didn't convince me that Snake Thompson molested LRH, or that anyone else ever did either. Your 'evidence' consisted of you drawing utterly illogical conclusions from innocuous remarks by LRH and others. It was par for the course.



If the former Scientologist who wrote to you was Arnie Lerma, there's no doubt in my mind that he was sincere. He was also sincere when he accused Scientologists of using Gypsies to handle the internet, and shooping LRH into an old photo of Volney Mathison with a girl on a couch.
Sincere, but wrong.



I think you're missing the true significance of the symbol out there in Trementina. It is actually a Venn diagram that describes the nature of Scientology critics. One circle represents gays. The adjacent circle represents outpatients. The area where the circles overlap is criticdom.

Of course, I'm not married to this theory, or anything.

Is accusing people of being gay the worst insult you can come up with for Scientology critics, SuzanneMarie?

Not that you're a bigot, or anything.

fix'd.

SuzanneMarie, probity has written an outstanding analysis of your behavior that deserves a response. I noted that you evaded probity's remarks by taking a swipe at me. Suzie, will you please respond to probity's observations?



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Unfortunately, SuzanneMarie, you can only "fix" things like that within the fantasy world of Scientology.

In real life, you're a bigot.

Does that make you feel cheated? That you've spent all that money on Scientology courses to create a world where everyone wins and you're still a bigot?

Ow, indeed.

Hello everyone. Today I'm in a "Please let's not be mean to Suzanne Marie" mood.

Has anyone considered that when LRH claimed to be a Nuclear Physicist, a Civil Engineer, Physician, yada, yada, yada that he really had been all those things in previous lifetimes?

Maybe LRH was telling the truth all along, and people just couldn't handle the truth. Let's all give him a big hip-hip!

If CoS was still making these claims about LRH, there might be more cause for concern.
But I've been in since 1975, and never saw any of these C.E./nuclear physicist claims. So are you trying to arouse indignation over some problem that was handled decades ago?

Aren't those book plates with the false claims from 1956?

Way to take everything too seriously.

He was a first sergeant in the USMC Reserve in the early 1930s.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/warher ... 411023.gif

The uniform in the photo where LRH was in a kahki uniform was a commissioned officer/chief petty officer only style dress kahki Navy uniform, not a Marine Corps uniform and has nothing whatsoever to do with weather or not LRH was or was not a non-com in the Marine Corps reserves, SM. To be honest, your alibi game here for the hubturd is about as lame as one of those Nigerian banker letters.


Pete

USMC (Reserves) Sgt. L. Ron Hubbard was living in the US Naval Hospital DC during 1933-1934. LRH was discharged from the US Marines on the condition that he would never be allowed to re-enlist.

Question SuzanneMarie: Why was LRH banned for life from re-enlisting in the USMC? Was it related to any deep psychological problems for which he may have been hospitalized long term in the US Naval Hospital? CoS has never explained why LRH was living in the US Naval Hospital.

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Hubbard claimed in his brief 1935 biography to magazine readers that he had seen the world while in the US Marines. This is a lie. Hubbard was a Marine reservist who was offloaded from the USMC for perhaps being a mental defective.



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Interesting ... what does that say about the Navy ... they make a commissioned officer out of a USMC non-com reject. I never did completely trust the commissioned officers when I was in the Navy, now I know why.

Pete

I KNOW. Why can't people just smile when Scientology prints books in the millions calling for gays and lesbians to lose "civil rights of any kind"?

And why can't secularpatriot just smile when ignorant old ladies like SuzanneMarie refer to people as gay as if it were an insult?

Actually, that IS kinda funny. But more in a laugh AT you than a laugh WITH you kinda way.

SuzanneMarie wrote:



Along with stigmatizing gays, you are stigmatizing people with legitimate mental disorders. How is this not to be taken seriously?

L

The Weird and Truthfully Inactive SuzanneMarie...

These claims are made by LRH about LRH - does this not reflect poorly on LRH credibility? Are you saying an overt is no cause for concern if it isn't a present time overt? If one's confidence in LRH is based on false credentials, would there be cause for concern?

And what about lives betrayed with LRH false claims and credentials? This is not handled, absent a public admission of LRH culpability.

SuzanneMarie, why are you shielding LRH from responsibility - is this a cause of concern for you, or is it just your job? What would happen to you if LRH took responsibility for all his false claims and unearned credentials?

The Admissions of SuzanneMarie:

* It doesn't matter what evidence of LRH falsehoods exists.

* Claims of LRH degrees not earned are merely puff and not intended to deceive the public or fraudulently influence opinions toward LRH or Scientology, even if these claims appear on book covers.

* LRH stood to gain nothing from false credentials as a Civil Engineer. Ph.D. and nuclear physicist, therefore LRH had no motive to falsify his own credentials.

* All claims of LRH being a Civil Engineer. Ph.D. and nuclear physicist result from the mere incompetence of others and do not reflect adversely on LRH's personal character.

* Not everything with an LRH signature on it was written by LRH, therefore LRH did not have the means to falsify his credentials, only the means to falsify his authorship.

* LRH would never accuse others of similar false claims in such a hurtful way, so derogatory, so offensive and so bigoted.

* Far too busy working and researching to concern himself with such petty inaccuracies, LRH had neither the opportunity to falsify his credentials nor the opportunity to notice these fraudulent claims of Civil Engineer. Ph.D. and nuclear physicist even existed.

* Lastly, I don't recall them, therefore they didn't happen - and even if they had, such inaccuracies are historical only and may now be disregarded as if they never happened.

* Move along now, trusting in the validity of the LRH imprint and the truth for which it stands.

SuzanneMarie, the inactive Scientologist, thanks for sharing your cognitive dissonance with the world.