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What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Entheta You » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:46 pm

can anyone vector me to a link or publication with an official, irrefutable definition of insanity as used by Scientology?

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Wieber » Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:57 pm

http://www.scientology-cult.com/
Insanity
"Insanity is the overt or covert but always complex and continuous determination to harm or destroy."
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HCO BULLETIN OF 28 NOVEMBER 1970
C/S Series 22
PSYCHOSIS
http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/252

That issue is in the PTS/SP course
The list of issues for that course and links to them can be found here.
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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Entheta You » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:09 pm

so, if I understand correctly, when the planet is cleared, Miscavage will be gone.

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Don Carlo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:12 am

Ironically, CoS and its front group CCHR fight against psychiatrists "labelling" of people as having medical situations like ADHD, schizophrenia. Yet CoS often labels critics as "insane" with CoS' implication that the critics are irrevocably evil, rather than having a medical problem that needs treatment. CoS only offers auditing, Purification Rundown, and other decades-stale approaches to a student with mental issues, and when these stale techniques fail, it is the student's fault. CoS won't even treat a deeply troubled schizophrenic - they know they have no answers.

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by 'Alert' » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:05 am

http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/252

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HCO BULLETIN OF 28 NOVEMBER 1970

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Class VIII Checksheet

C/S Series 22
PSYCHOSIS1

Through a slight change of procedure on certain preclears I have been able to view the underlying motives and mechanisms of psychosis.

Very possibly this is the first time the mechanisms which bring about insanity have been fully viewed. I must say that it requires a bit of confronting.

The alleviation of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished now and the footnote in Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health concerning future research into this field can be considered fulfilled.

The things a C/S should know about insanity are as follows:

HIGHER PERCENT

About 15 percent to 20 percent of the human race apparently is insane or certainly a much higher percent than was estimated.

The truly insane do not necessarily act insane visibly. They are not the psychiatric obvious cases who go rigid for years or scream for days. This is observed only in the last stages or during temporary stress.

Under apparent social behavior the continual crimes knowingly committed by the insane are much more vicious than ever has been cataloged in psychiatric texts.

The actions of the insane are not “unconscious”. They are completely aware of what they are doing.

All insane actions are entirely justified and seem wholly rational to them. As they have no reality on the harmful and irrational nature of their conduct it does not often register on an E-Meter.

The product of their post duties is destructive but is excused as ignorance or errors.

As cases in normal processing they roller coaster continually.

They nearly always have a fixed emotional tone. It does not vary in nearly all insane people. In a very few it is cyclic, high then low.

All characteristics classified as those of the “suppressive person” are in fact those of an insane person.

The easiest ways for a C/S to detect the insane are:

1. Pretending to do a post or duties, the real consistent result is destructive to the group in terms of breakage, lost items, injured business, etc.

2. The case is no case gain or roller coaster and is covered under “PTS symptoms”.

3. They are usually chronically physically ill.

4. They have a deep but carefully masked hatred of anyone who seeks to help them.

5. The result of their “help” is actually injurious.

6. They often seek transfers or wish to leave.

7. They are involved in warfare with conflicts around them which are invisible to others. One wonders how they can be so involved or get so involved in so much hostility.

TYPES

The German psychiatric 1500 or so “different types of insanity” are just different symptoms of the same cause. There is only one insanity and from it springs different manifestations. Psychiatry erred in calling these different types and trying to invent different treatments.

DEFINITION

Insanity can now be precisely defined.

The definition is:

INSANITY IS THE OVERT OR COVERT BUT ALWAYS COMPLEX AND CONTINUOUS DETERMINATION TO HARM OR DESTROY.

Possibly the only frightening thing about it is the cleverness with which it can be hidden.

Whereas a sane person can become angry or upset and a bit destructive for short periods, he or she recovers. The insane mask it, are misemotional continuously and do not recover. (Except by modern processing.)

THE NATURE OF MAN

Man is basically good. This is obvious. For when he begins to do evil he seeks to destroy his memory in order to change and seeks to destroy his body. He seeks to check his evil impulses by inhibiting his own skill and strength.

He can act in a very evil fashion but his basic nature then makes it mandatory that he lessens himself in many ways.

The towering “strength” of a madman is a rarity and is compensated by efforts at self-destruction.

Man’s mortality, his “one life” fixation, all stem from his efforts to check himself, obliterate his memory in a fruitless effort to change his conduct and his self-destructive habits and impulses and losses of skills and abilities.

As this rationale proves out completely in processing and fits all cases observed, we have for the first time proof of his actual nature.

As only around 20 percent are insane, and as those who previously worked in the mental field were themselves mainly insane, man as a whole has been assigned an evil repute. Governments, where such personalities exist, listen to the opinion of the insane and apply the characteristic of 20 percent to the entire hundred percent.

This gives an 80 percent wrong diagnosis. Which is why mental science itself was destructive when used by states.

TECHNIQUES

The only technique available at this writing which will benefit the insane is contained in all the overt-motivator sequences and Grade II technology. At Flag at this writing new improvement on this exists but it is so powerful that slight errors in use can cause a psychotic break in the insane. It therefore will only be exported for use by specially trained persons and this programming will require quite a while.

MEANWHILE it helps the C/S to know and use these firm rules:

ALWAYS RUN DIANETIC TRIPLES.

Never run Singles. The overt side (Flow 2) is vital. If you only run Flow 1 Motivators, the pc will not recover fully. Further running Flow 1 (motivator only) any psychotic being processed will not recover but may even trigger into a psychotic break. If one never ran anything but motivators, psychotic manifestations would not erase.

DEPEND ON EXPANDED GRADE II TECHNOLOGY TO EASE OFF OR HANDLE THE INSANE.

Don’t keep asking what’s been done to him as he’ll trigger.

A new discovery on this is that when you run out the motivator the person gets a higher reality on his overts. If you ran out all his motivators he would have no reason for his overts. If these are not then run out he might cave himself in.

PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR

The APPARENT pattern of insane behavior is to come in (ask for processing, go on staff, etc) with the advertised intention of being helped or helping, then mess up either as a pc or on post, then state how bad it all is and leave. It looks obvious enough. He came, found it bad, left.

That is only the APPARENT behavior. APPARENT REASONS.

Based on numerous cases, this is the real cycle. Hearing of something good that might help these hateful awful rotten nasty people, the psycho comes in, wrecks this, upsets that, caves in this one, chops up that one and WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS “NO!” the psychotic either

a. caves himself in physically or

b runs away.

The psychotic is motivated by intent to harm.

If he realizes he is harming things he shouldn’t, he caves himself in. If he is afraid he will be found out, he runs.

In the psychotic the impulse is quite conscious.

CONCLUSION

None of this is very nice. It is hard to confront. Even I find it so.

Freud thought all men had a hidden monster in them for he dealt mainly with the psychotic and their behavior was what he saw.

All men are not like this. The percentage that are is greater than I supposed but is a long way from all men.

Sometimes one only becomes aware of these when things are getting worked on and improved. They stay on as long as it can be made bad or there is hope it can be destroyed. Then when attention is given to improvement they blow.

Artists, writers often have these types hanging around them as there is someone or something there to be destroyed. When success or failure to destroy or possible detection appears on the scene they blow, often as destructively as possible.

Orgs are subjected to a lot of this. A psychotic sometimes succeeds in blowing off good staff. And then sooner or later realizes how evil he is acting and sickens or leaves.

The society is not geared to any of this at all. The insane walk around wrecking the place and decent people think it’s “human nature” or “inevitable” or a “bad childhood”.

As of this writing the insane can be handled. The proof of any pudding is the processing. And this is successful. It is also rather swift. But, as I say, it is so swift the special technique has to be done by the specially trained flubless auditor.

For a long while I’ve realized that we would have to be able to handle insane people as the psychiatrist is fading. I have had opportunity to work on the problem. And have it handled. Until it is fully released, the C/S will benefit greatly from knowing the above as these come on his lines far more often than he has suspected.

The insane can be helped. They are not hopeless.

I trust this data will be of use.

L. Ron Hubbard
Founder
"If anyone talks about a "road to Freedom" he is talking about a linear line. This, then, must have boundaries. If there are boundaries there is no freedom." - Dianetics 55

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Entheta You » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:13 pm

In reality, insanity is not a psychiatric condition, it is a legal condition. An insane person is incapable of determining right from wrong. you can be schizophrenic, paranoid, delusional and vote for that other political party and be sane in the eyes of the law.

Scientology says :

WHAT DOES “CLEAR THE PLANET” MEAN?

It means that Scientologists want to rid the planet of insanity, war and crime, and in its place create a civilization in which sanity and peace exist. In order to do this, they must help individuals become free of their own individual aberrations and insanities and, hence, regain their inherent goodness.

So Ron is trying to cure some other psychological condition, with a name hijacked from the legal system and redefined so it can be misapplied.



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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Wieber » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:31 pm

Here's my take.

A cult such as Scientology is a giant stage magicians trick.

All the organizational structure, bells, whistles, goals, policy, technology, promises, moral code, rules, punishments, and few rewards are there to distract.
The real purpose of the organization is to provide one single individual, the leader, with extreme wealth and comfort.
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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by spacecootie » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:48 am

In the Scilons' view, anybody who doesn't buy into their hogwash is insane.

In that case, I'm proud to be loony as hell!

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Wieber » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:17 am

spacecootie wrote:In the Scilons' view, anybody who doesn't buy into their hogwash is insane.

In that case, I'm proud to be loony as hell!
Scientology mantra number 786: "The thetan knows."
Therefore if one is contacted and doesn't make a reach (buy something) then they are ignoring what they know and are manifesting the
"always complex and continuous determination to harm or destroy."

If a person is involved in Scientology and then leaves it they can only do so publicly, especially if they are a staff member. Publicly leaving
Scientology is a high crime according to Scientology policy. Therefore everyone who leaves Scientology commits a high crime and is
declared a suppressive person because doing so is "an overt or covert but always complex and continuous determination to harm or destroy."

At one time a person, even a staff member, could leave Scientology and not be declared suppressive. That stopped in the late seventies.

If anyone reading this is not and has never been involved in Scientology, when they contact you, ignore them. If they come to your door,
shut it - better still don't answer it. If they approach you on the street, keep walking. If they block your path and won't let you go by
call the police because doing that is against the law.
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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Don Carlo » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:26 am

My understanding is that a public member can tiptoe away, stopping courses and donations, and not become a suppressive person. CoS hammers you with the SP label if you leave "publicly," especially if you are well known. If you criticize CoS, you are even more a target.

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Wieber » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:17 pm

If a person is involved in Scientology as a public person they can walk away, and if the org is big enough they can do that without being noticed.
In a small org it's not so easy. If a person is involved as a staff member they can't leave without being declared. A sea org staff member pretty much
has to escape to get away. That's a blow and that's a declarable offense. A staff member on a 2.5 or 5 year contract is expected to renew their
contract when it expires. "Scientology does not do crush regging." That's Scientology Mantra number 987. (Scientology doesn't have that designation
system. I'm being satirical.) Saying that doesn't stop registrars and recruiters from doing just that. I don't know if it happens every time but when
my contract expired I was taken to a room with a person guarding the door so I couldn't leave while the executive director forced me to renew my
contract. I was told those were the bad old days and Scientology doesn't do that any more but I've read personal stories that say the organization
still does. The point is, it's next to impossible for a person to leave without being declared once they become a staff member.

Of course, having a lot of money can keep the organization from declaring someone until the organization has transferred all of their money into its
own bank accounts.
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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Don Carlo » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:19 pm

True about staff and Sea Org having difficulty leaving CoS. I edited my post to say that public members can tiptoe away.

Also, if a public Scientologist tiptoes away, his or her spouse/parent/child/sibling may be recruited to pull them back in, and this may be painful and disruptive. If one parent of small children tries to quit, and the other parent is gung-ho for CoS, CoS may intervene in the divorce to try to get maximum custody and support to the Scientologist parent.

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Entheta You » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:29 am

I was aware of the belief that being aware of the alleged benefits of Scientology and choosing not to participate is insanity. I hoped to find that in writing.

Elron said, if you study OT-III without working your way up the bridge to it, you would die of pneumonia or go insane. ergo, following the logic, if you study OT-III without working your way up the bridge to it, you will be aware of the alleged benefits of Scientology and choose not to participate in it. which is exactly what I did

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Re: What is the official Scientology definition of insanity

Post by Wieber » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:21 pm

Entheta You wrote:I was aware of the belief that being aware of the alleged benefits of Scientology and choosing not to participate is insanity. I hoped to find that in writing.

Elron said, if you study OT-III without working your way up the bridge to it, you would die of pneumonia or go insane. ergo, following the logic, if you study OT-III without working your way up the bridge to it, you will be aware of the alleged benefits of Scientology and choose not to participate in it. which is exactly what I did
Hubbard doesn't quite go there. In the policy, The Antisocial Personality The Anti-Scientologist, he pretty much says that anyone who
is critical of Scientology is a suppressive person.
http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/224

Then there is this policy, Critics of Scientology.
http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/278
In it Hubbard says that people who are critical of Scientology have committed crimes.
in [i]Critics of Scientology[/i], Hubbard wrote:Now, get this as a technical fact, not a hopeful idea. Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of Scientology, we have
found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have
criminal pasts. Over and over we prove this.
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