What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

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What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

Post by Semioldguard » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:52 am

It must serve some purpose or it wouldn't exist.

One purpose that it serves is a source of motivators.

Definition of a motivator source: A source one can go to to pay oneself back for something or things one has done earlier in time. When one has done more to others than what's been done to them, one is said to be in a negative status in terms of motivators.
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Re: What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

Post by Don Carlo » Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:10 pm

My relative in Scientology is motivating me to unmask Scientology. Unfortunately, CoS is mostly motivating my relative to hand over money needed for retirement.

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Post by Wieber » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:07 pm

If you go into a Scientology org with five dollars in your pocket by the time you leave Scientology will have that five dollars.
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Re: What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

Post by 'Alert' » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:57 am

"What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?"

Easy, as it comes straight from 'source'

PDC Lecture 20 wrote:
If you release the remedy, and if the remedy is fast enough before the forces of evil can muster their machinations and use the overt act, it can't ever be used. There is only one thing that could happen to Scientology, and that is to say that it would be buried. The remedy would be buried. If it ever went out of sight, this world's done. All you've got to do is invalidate it and put it out of sight and hide it, and it'll come up in the wrong place doing the wrong thing, and mankind will find itself a slave.

So anybody that knows the remedy of this subject, anybody that knows these techniques, is himself actually under a certain responsibility - that's to make sure that he doesn't remain a sole proprietor. That's all it takes, just don't remain a sole proprietor. Don't ever think that a monopoly of this subject is a safe thing to have. It's not safe. It's not safe for man; it's not safe for this universe.

This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we've got some new ways to make slaves here. Let's see that none are made.

Now it's fortunate that we are able to make Clears as fast as we can make them. It's very, very fortunate. Because black Dianetics, as most destructive things work in this universe, could work a lot faster than the old-time techniques - work really fast. Nowadays - get this - you can use creative processing; the process of using mock-ups will flip out a PDH without ever touching it or addressing it. Isn't that fascinating. You can knock a PDH to pieces with fifteen minutes of processing. And it takes longer than that to put one in.

Another condition could exist, a PDH could be so - a pain-drug- hypnosis - they knock the fellow out, they drug him - could be laid in with great rapidity. But it could be laid in so strongly that the individual is rendered dead. Or non compos mentis from there on and thus out of communication. That individual is no menace to anybody. He's either completeravingly gone, out of communication, and look.. or he's dead, and a bullet does the same thing. So it's not a good weapon, really. Because if he's able.. if he suddenly starts acting peculiarly or doing things which completely alter any pattern he has had in the past, or if he is doing things which look like they are vaguely bad, then how easy it is. You can get ahold of him. You'll find almost any preclear can be given creative processing. And you could get ahold at him and flip the PDH out. That's interesting, isn't it? In other words, you can take 'em out as fast as they lay 'em down.

Therefore we really do have the remedy before the assault weapon is produced. Did you ever read poor old George Orwell's uh.. 1984?
Yes,yes, that's wonderful. That would be, could be, the palest imagined shadow of what a world would be like under the rule of the secret use of Scientology with no remedy in existence. Well it's all right in this offhand age to just brush things aside and say, "Well, it's of no importance, no importance, really,and.. let's not be dramatic the way people are being about the atom bomb." Actually the atom bomb isn't as serious as this subject. It's just a MEST weapon. And, it's all right to be very offhand, and very cheerful and so on, and - like the little boy whistling in the dark says, "No ghosts or boogymen exist." - Well, this boogyman does exist.
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Post by Semioldguard » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:35 pm

'Alert' wrote:"What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?"

Easy, as it comes straight from 'source'
I was unable to find where he mentions the purpose the church of scientology serves.

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Post by 'Alert' » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:12 am

Semioldguard wrote:
'Alert' wrote:"What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?"

Easy, as it comes straight from 'source'
I was unable to find where he mentions the purpose the church of scientology serves.
Oh, lemme help you with Helen O'briens account of how/why Diantecs morphed into scientology
(1953)
APRIL 10

DEAR HELEN

RE CLINIC, HAS

The arrangements that have been made seem a good temporary measure. On a longer look, however, something more equitable will have to be organized. I am not quite sure what we would call the place – probably not a clinic – but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS but fed by the HAS.

The auditor arrangements of 40% are out of line in view of what is going to be happening. The HAS will be paying for lights, quarters, stenography, reception, furniture and janitor service. These will be found to come rather high in a clinic that really starts to run if the clinic is going to be any credit to anybody. Further, it is from the HAS main line that the preclears will be coming and those preclears and the clinic revenue, now that we aren’t going to try to make too much off books, are all that will support the HAS. I didn’t go to all the work I went to on HAS and other things to forget that my own revenue has to be a lot better than it has been in the past. As it is right now and as it cannot continue to be I am running an awful lot of show personally on no money. If you think Detroit would occur or continue to be if I had a couple thousand, think again – newspapers are for sale in any direction, not just to the AMA. And I can’t even support a press agent! All this adds up to is that a lot of expenses should be on the routine list that can’t be and a lot of things that are done are paid for by my abstaining from a new overcoat. And this directly concerns such things as the clinic.

I do not in the least object to an auditor working for $200 a week, his rent and reception paid for and his preclears procured. Beyond that it gets silly. Even $200 a week is pretty silly. If I were there I’d be getting paid by somebody to work in the joint as an auditor for it means his future reputation and his current training. At most I would pay $125 a week and put two auditors on every case – current procedure here.

The preclears come in by the dozens through that mail. If we didn’t have a clinic set up we’d have to watch that mail line of because of this fact. We should anyway. In Phoenix we gave them to field auditors. If we were to run there the United States Central Processing Office or whatever, we’d be able to count on ten to fifteen preclears per week at $500 for 24 hours of processing. That’s real money. I have seen it happen before. We’d get more preclears at $850 per week’s intensive. Charge enough and we’d be swamped. We need that money. We should not long plan to have it siphoned away. The HAS is the cause of that inflow and it is granting the favor in providing preclears and income. From that income I would like to see go into a general fund for general operating expenses from here – press, communications, stenos – at least $2,500 per month. If I had that much to operate with you couldn’t see over the amount of business we’d get or the number of dead bodies piled up before trial. You get the idea. But it takes money, lots of it. The clinic, as I see it, is the most eligible bet to provide that money. For one reason, 24 hours of processing now is 500 old style. I have here a short, quick package, carefully saved. I can raise the dead, which is, of course what I mean when I say “dead bodies piled up.” Resurrection would so influence public opinion.

We don’t want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business.

I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn’t get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we’ve got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick. We’re treating the present time beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the brain. And brother, that’s religion, not mental science.

Glad you are using my typewriter. I make you a clear gift of it. It’s a nice little mill. I have a ten pound Olivetti here, got it from Italy, the world’s tiniest but it types like a well greased dream.

I am writing THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY. I couldn’t make it by the issue you now have.

I have wired you to the effect that the type is okay you’re using in view of the price. All that is really wrong is the type masthead. Makes it look old-fashioned. Get another masthead drawn. Nice and black and simple. Also, use another type face for the headline under it. Didn’t know prices could be so wide. Looks like we make it a 12 page edition every time at that price. I could review in it everything we’ve got to keep hold of as knowledge and do all the axioms for it as well. Then we could make the axioms into a book.

Boy, are these new ones easy to teach and work. I sent Noyga one. There are about three. Clears. Hell, I never saw so many so fast. Case V, easier than Case I! When the problem cracked, it really cracked wide open.

You’ll have the most recent tapes soon. One batch has already gone to you. We’re in, O’Brien –

Best regards,

Ron1
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Re: What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

Post by Semioldguard » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:42 pm

'Alert' wrote:Oh, lemme help you with Helen O'briens account of how/why Diantecs morphed into scientology
Seems to me your trying to answer a question that hasn't been asked, or um, maybe change the subject.

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Post by 'Alert' » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:51 pm

Semioldguard wrote:
'Alert' wrote:Oh, lemme help you with Helen O'briens account of how/why Diantecs morphed into scientology
Seems to me your trying to answer a question that hasn't been asked, or um, maybe change the subject.
Seems to me you're trying to troll, or um, maybe go away
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Post by Semioldguard » Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:47 pm

'Alert' wrote:Seems to me you're trying to troll, or um, maybe go away
Trolling my own thread am I? :lol:

Seems to me you're accusing me of what's true about you.

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Re: What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

Post by pharbizorg » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:20 pm

Good Afternoon All,

I'll throw my five-cents into this discussion (two-cents if you live in the US - you still have pennies). Some, and I mean some as a small majority find scientology useful to their life. That is their business, and I'm not here to judge their beliefs.

My opinion is that, and this is a very simple analogy - I equate scientology to mail coming into my e-mail bin, or mailbox. Some mail is useful, and most are down right useless, we call this SPAM. Usually the magical delete key takes care of the SPAM e-mails, or we throw the print material into recycling. Scientology does not fit the category of "Useful e-mails/mail", but rather falls into the trap that catches all that SPAM mail, and deletes it before I ever see it, or is recycled before being read in detail. At the end of the day, I can't be bothered with it, as it (the philosophy and the current administration) just does not work for me.

I also recognize those who may produce the material, also may view my comment. I expect that they may be offended as they do hard work for a cause they believe in. Some put their blood, sweat and tears (literally) into a cause they believe to be correct. These are the folks who do slave labour hours in questionable conditions. I do not judge the beliefs, but the conditions/administration that they have to live in, work in, and otherwise exist in 24/7/365. There is a better life out there. You just have to use that exit door, and never come back in again.

Thank you for reading.
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Post by irbcsz4986 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:44 am

that is like asking "what is the purpose of cancer".

The purpose of a cancer cell is to produce more cancer cells. Oh yes, at the expense of the host.

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Post by 'Alert' » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:07 am

irbcsz4986 wrote:that is like asking "what is the purpose of cancer".

The purpose of a cancer cell is to produce more cancer cells. Oh yes, at the expense of the host.
^Great comparison!
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Re: What purpose does the church of scientology serve in this universe?

Post by Demented Founder » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:43 pm

Semioldguard wrote:It must serve some purpose or it wouldn't exist.

One purpose that it serves is a source of motivators.

Definition of a motivator source: A source one can go to to pay oneself back for something or things one has done earlier in time. When one has done more to others than what's been done to them, one is said to be in a negative status in terms of motivators.
That would be the karma. Hubbard tried to be original by borrowing ideas from different religions, but his lack of originality was obvious. The Old Scratch didn't invent anything new, he just used his twisted definition of the word "motivator" instead of the word "karma"
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