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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:59 pm 
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One of the articles described the PSH character as an intellectual...so clearly this is not about hubbard!


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 Post subject: Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman : Movie: 1950s new religious move
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One of the articles described the PSH character as an intellectual...so clearly this is not about hubbard!


Ah, yes, but his spouse, played by Amy Adams, is named Mary Sue.

Coincidence? Or Conspiracy?

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One of the articles described the PSH character as an intellectual...so clearly this is not about hubbard!


Ah, yes, but his spouse, played by Amy Adams, is named Mary Sue.

Coincidence? Or Conspiracy?

Yes, The Mary Sue Dodd character, wife of the lead character, Lancaster Dodd, who we're told is not roughly based on L.Ron Hubbard, has not gone unnoticed. Neither has the film's overall design (also see previous posts in this thread)...

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(Apparently they nearly lost a very expensive 65mm movie camera in the bay.)

...maybe its supposed to be a bit like The Athena (formerly Avon River) but bigger....

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[more Hubbard vessels: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=42985&p=421710 ]

...but not as big as the Apollo [bearing in mind the film's budget]...

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Also, there were reported rumours that included instructions to movie staff to play down any link to a scientology-like movement or face being fired.

We did have that leaked early script and nobody from the production marketing dept seems to be telling IMDB that their synopsis is way off...
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A 1950s-set drama centered on the relationship between a charismatic intellectual known as "the Master" whose faith-based organization begins to catch on in America, and a young drifter who becomes his right-hand man.


Who really knows though. It being anything to do with a Hubbard scientology-esque movement with a potential Miscavige-esque character is certainly not a mainstream selling point and I think most movie watchers are excited because Paul Thomas Anderson is an epic writer/director, another movie is long overdue, the lead cast is pretty damn fine, and it'll look lush.

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 Post subject: Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman : Movie: 1950s new religious move
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:35 am 
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"I would love to storyboard this movie. I can think of twelve central scenes that are crucial. If the timeline begins in 1952, the film has missed six of the central short scenes. "

I would also like to see a movie made of the life of LRH. After the success of DMSMH, LRH is bankrupt, divorced, and depressed, and is unkempt with long hair and long fingernails. But he bounces back with his new invention, $cientology. The next 30 or so years are the "happy days", but in the early 80's, while he is in hiding due to Operation Snow White, he is again unkempt with long hair, fingernails and toenails, and getting constant injections of Vistaril in his ass. But the story doesn't have to have an unhappy ending. LRH's protoge, DM, steps in and "saves the day" for $cientology.


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J.Swift wrote:
"I would love to storyboard this movie. I can think of twelve central scenes that are crucial. If the timeline begins in 1952, the film has missed six of the central short scenes. "

I would also like to see a movie made of the life of LRH. After the success of DMSMH, LRH is bankrupt, divorced, and depressed, and is unkempt with long hair and long fingernails. But he bounces back with his new invention, $cientology. The next 30 or so years are the "happy days", but in the early 80's, while he is in hiding due to Operation Snow White, he is again unkempt with long hair, fingernails and toenails, and getting constant injections of Vistaril in his ass. But the story doesn't have to have an unhappy ending. LRH's protoge, DM, steps in and "saves the day" for $cientology.


I would either make Miscavige the "protagonist" or use Hubbard as the "protagonist" and bring Miscavige in as the "B story." The "antagonist" would be the critical public. I suppose that would have to be personified. A young woman who is an investigative journalist might work for that.

With Miscavige as the central character I would run the story from before he found or joined $cientology and end it with him taking on the title of COB. With Hubbard I'd start with him working as a writer for a penny a word and wanting the world and either take it through to his death or to a point where he's achieved his small god status, with all his ships and sea org people working for him.

In the first case the change emphasized would be healthy, sharp young con-man progressing to near vegetable, old unkempt, witless dying victim. In the second case it would be young struggling poor con-man progressing to older established leader of the cult with lots of money, possessions and people working for him for next to nothing.

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I just hope they get the Jack Parsons friendship/black magic angle in there somehow -- that and Hub throwing people off the side of the fail boat...

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The Mary Sue character didn't go unnoticed at artinfo.com....
http://artinfo.com/news/story/762509/th ... d-for-fall
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It’s been rumored that “The Master” is a thinly-veiled biopic of L. Ron Hubbard, who served in the navy during the war and incorporated the first church Church of Scientology in Camden, New Jersey, in 1953. The organization’s checkered history and its attraction of major Hollywood stars is well known.

Dern, Adams, and Emily Watson (who starred in Anderson’s “Punch-Drunk Love’ and has seen half an hour of “The Master”) have spoken about “The Master” in interviews without revealing a single plot detail, but they were clearly sworn to secrecy.

Asked if the film is about Scientology by Hollywood Elsewhere, Hoffman stated categorically that it was not. It’s worth noting, however, that the cast list names Adams’s character as Mary Sue, which was also the name of Hubbard’s third wife, a dianetics “auditor” and leader in the multi-million dollar Scientology setup.


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If the names are all changed then it is categorically not about "Scientology," know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more.

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The Master follows There Will Be Blood
TGDaily March 9, 2012
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entert ... l-be-blood

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The Master is a drama based on the creation of Scientology, with Phillip Seymour Hoffman playing a character who's obviously based on L. Ron Hubbard.

The religion he creates isn't directly called Scientology, it goes under the name The Cause, but if you have three working brain cells, you'll be able to tell it's really Scientology.


Now a report has hit Movieline that The Master may be in theaters by Fall. 

Megan Ellison, a financer on the film, tweeted that "it's still a bit early, but I'd keep my eyes on October." 



In recent years, Anderson's been very secretive about his work, perhaps following in the footsteps of his idol Stanely Kubrick, who almost never did press and let his movies speak for themselves. Again, having read the script, it should make a terrific follow up to There Will Be Blood, and if you're a PTA fan, you shouldn't be disappointed.

Another interesting development with The Master is in a day and age when everyone's going to digital video, Anderson's shooting the film in 65mm, and funny enough, Andrew Stanton, the director of John Carter, confirmed that PTA was working in the format via Twitter. 



As Collider reports, Stanton and his Pixar alumni, Brad Bird (The Incredibles, The Iron Giant), and Lee Unkrich (Toy Story 3), were tweeting about showing movies in 70 and 65mm, and as Stanton reported, "The Master is indeed in 65. They nearly lost a camera shooting in the Bay." (Remember, L. Ron Hubbard spent a lot of time preaching the word of Scientology on boats, and part of the organization is The Sea Orgs).

As Collider further mentions, "If you're unfamiliar with the technical aspects of 65mm film, you've no doubt witnessed its clarity. 65mm film is actually projected at 70mm, which is the format used by IMAX screens. Needless to say, the fact that Anderson shot in 65mm is great news to film fanatics."

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They're probably close to completion and are looking at getting it out before 2012 ends so they will be eligible for the 2013 Academy Awards. It is probably the kind of movie that would be a serious contender for best picture.

Edit: (Some of you, reading this post will be asking, "Who are they?" You $cientologists are so predictable.
'They' are the people involved with making the movie "The Master." See, making a movie is a collaborative effort.
Can you say 'collaborative?' Be sure to look it up and put all the definitions for it in sentences.)

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Paul Thomas Anderson’s ‘The Master’ Set for October 12 Limited Release
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It was a rumor, and now it’s official. The new Paul Thomas Anderson film, The Master, will be released by The Weinstein Company on October 12. Starring Philip Seymour Hoffman, Joaquin Phoenix and Amy Adams, The Master tells the story of a man who returns from war and begins his own organized religion. It also features Laura Dern, Jesse Plemons, Fiona Dourif and has absolutely nothing to do with Scientology. Nope. Not at all. The October 12 release will be limited and the film will expand from there. Thanks to Box Office Mojo.

Box Office Mojo: http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=s ... master.htm
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The Master

Distributor: Weinstein Company
Release Date: October 12, 2012
Genre: Drama
Runtime: N/A
MPAA Rating: Not Yet Rated
Production Budget: N/A


Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 84717.html (also with feature video on Paul Thomas Anderson's past work).

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 Post subject: Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman : Movie: 1950s new religious move
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Wieber wrote:
They're probably close to completion and are looking at getting it out before 2012 ends so they will be eligible for the 2013 Academy Awards. It is probably the kind of movie that would be a serious contender for best picture.


I can see it now.
The Master wins Best Picture. Crowd Applauds. Camera cuts to Cruise gingerly smiling/applauding :mrgreen:


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may as well start spamming this fake movie poster, since they're taking their damn sweet time doing it themselves...

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Farewel!!!!!
This is my "signoff" post. Best wishes to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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may as well start spamming this fake movie poster, since they're taking their damn sweet time doing it themselves...

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Nice job, Another123.

Also, farewell, Bparker. I'm not sure what's up, but feel free to return to OCMB whenever.

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