Thanks for the info. I also looked up Gerry's entry on Wikipedia.
Great. He also has a web site that could be instructive if you really want to understand Scientology’s long war on him. http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/
I wish that I was a lawyer so that I could help Gerry. I can only offer a few thoughts that would need to be confirmed by a lawyer.
It seems that Gerry would need to go back to court to get things fixed since his current problems stem from court orders that COS had obtained against him. I assume that these orders all came from California courts, so Gerry would need to talk to a California lawyer.
Gerry has California lawyers and has talked to them.
If a lawyer says that there might be a way to fix the problems, then some kind of legal case would need to be filed in court. That's where a declaration from Marty or Mike could be helpful. I certainly cannot speak for either one of them, and I have no idea if they would offer assistance, but they did help in the Headley lawsuit.
Did they? Wasn’t the Headley lawsuit dismissed? The declaration of Marty’s I read contains the same line of lying he put into declarations he executed while in the Sea Org. For example, this one that Scientology filed in its first case against Gerry: http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50k/legal/a1/2129.php
Why the Headleys’ attorneys filed Marty’s declaration, which contains assertions of fact that serve Scientology’s purposes, who knows. I realize that they have their own legal strategy that I'm not privy to, but it appears to me that the Headleys want to get paid more for the work they did to support, promote and expand a great evil. They object to the abuse that was heaped on them as they did this work, and object to being paid slave wages for their work, but don’t claim they were defrauded into supporting, promoting and expanding that evil, or that the evil is evil. I suppose though that if they had called the evil an evil, or a fraud, Marty wouldn’t have provided his “help.”
That Miscavige converted Scientology from a religious organization into a commercial operation is simply not true. It was always a commercial operation. But big deal. Commercial operations in the US can be religious organizations by self-determination.
My understanding of the rules of evidence is that it would not help Gerry for Marty or Mike to just post something on the internet.
I don’t think that makes sense. Of course it would help Gerry if Marty and Mike posted the truth on the Internet about their decades of fair gaming him. That’s why Marty and Mike don’t do it.
But Gerry isn’t asking them to just post something on the internet. He’s asking them for declarations that can be used in court, and he’s asking them to communicate with him so that he can, with his legal representatives’ help, correct existing injustices and black PR that Marty and Mike perpetrated.
Gerry could not use that in court.
Sure he could. But it depends on the case and context. Even now, Gerry can use Marty and Mike’s unsworn statements in court. See for example, this fact concerning a Rinder letter, not sworn testimony, that was included in Gerry’s Separate Statement Of Disputed And Undisputed Facts In Opposition To Motion For Summary Adjudication
, which was filed in the fourth lawsuit the cult brought against him:
Gerry Armstrong wrote:
Scientology (CSI) director Michael Rinder on May 9, 1994, wrote a letter to the Mirror Newspaper Group in London, United Kingdom in which he stated that Armstrong "has now distinguished himself by posing naked in a newspaper;"http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50k/legal/a4/2605.php
He would need to get a formal sworn declaration in connection with a specific court action where Gerry is asking the court to make some new orders. I think that whoever wrote such a declaration would also need to make themselves available as live witnesses.
Maybe you missed this part of my post:
Earlier, I wrote:
Earlier, curiosity wrote:
What exactly is it that Marty can do for Gerry?
Debrief to Gerry, and his legal representatives, on all the lies, black PR, legal actions, intelligence actions, etc. Marty knows about that were perpetrated against Gerry, his attorneys, his family and associates.
Execute declarations that contain the facts elicited in the debrief.
Make himself available to testify in any legal proceedings to correct the injustices or situations listed above.
If a lawyer thought that Gerry could be helped with testimony from Marty or Mike, the lawyer could contact them to see if they would participate before filing an action in court on Gerry's behalf.
Yes, lawyers think Marty and Mike’s testimony could help Gerry. But if Marty and Mike won’t even communicate to Gerry yet, and continue to black PR him and justify their years of fair gaming him, it would be pointless and rude to ask an attorney to waste his time contacting them and being jerked around.
Gerry worked in the law business in the US for several years after getting out of the cult, knows how to draft declarations, has survived over 70 days of testimony in deposition or trial, most of it cross-examination by the cult’s shysters, knows the facts of his claims, and knows and can translate both wog and Scientology languages and thought.
The idea that Marty and Mike would help an attorney help Gerry, but wouldn’t help Gerry or even communicate to him, isn’t something I’d give much time or credence. I think it would be the kind of help Marty and Mike gave to Mike Flynn, or Ford Greene.
According to Marty, he ran Scientology litigation for 22 years. He knows this stuff. He knows too that Gerry’s right in his claims and accurate in his testimony. Marty has not shown he has changed even one spot since he left the Sea Org, if he even left. (And, by the way, it has been common practice inside for SO members to “resign” from the SO, while still remaining in the SO, if called upon to do so to serve Scientology in some role that cult wants to appear to not be SO controlled.)
Again, I am not a lawyer, so Gerry would need to confirm everything I just wrote with a lawyer.
I think we’re a bit beyond that. But thanks for your interest in all this stuff.