Many of us in discussions on the cult of scientology at some point may use or come across some variation of the idiom "Don't drink the Kool-Aid"
. Most of us know what it means and where it comes from but some of our younger lurkers passing through may not.
Today, 18th November 2011 marks the 33rd Anniversary of Jim Jones' People's Temple cult massacre and serves as one stark extreme example of why message boards like this exist and why we must continue to speak out against abusive and dangerous cults.
Here's just a few articles from this week on this topic, and some general comment....Crime History: Jim Jones leads 913 in mass murder-suicide
By: Scott McCabe 17th Nov 2011http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/cri ... er-suicide
On this day, Nov. 18, in 1978, Peoples Temple cult leader Jim Jones led hundreds of followers in a mass murder-suicide in a remote South American jungle.
Jones, a charismatic Christian preacher who claimed he was the reincarnation of Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi, Buddha and Vladimir Lenin, moved his followers from San Francisco to a retreat in Guyana called Jonestown.
U.S. Rep. Leo J. Ryan visited the compound to investigate complaints that people were being held against their will. Jones' armed brigade killed the congressmen and four others as they tried to leave on a plane.
Jones then ordered a state of emergency in the compound and extolled the "beauty of dying." Cult members who refused to drink a cyanide-laced fruit-flavored concoction were shot.
The final death toll was 913 people, including 276 children.
-- Scott McCabe
An extract in the Huffington Post of Paul Krassner's dialogue with Andrew Breitbart...Sex, Corruption and the Kool-Aid Massacre
Paul Krassner. Author and Satirist
Huffington Post. 17th Nov 2011http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-kras ... 99767.html
Op-EdDaum: Don't 'drink the Kool-Aid'It's time to ease up on a figure of speech arising from 1978's Jonestown massacre.
By Meghan Daum
LA Times November 17, 2011http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... 333.column
followed by...Don't 'go postal' over 'drinking the Kool-Aid' [Most commented]http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/20 ... ented.html
Books, Literature, EventsA Wake for 1978: Remembering Harvey Milk, George Moscone, Jonestown
By Paul M. Davis
San Francisco Weekly. Nov. 17 2011http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist ... ing_ha.phpA Wake for 1978
starts at 7 p.m. Friday (Nov. 18) at Double Play
, 2401 16th St. (at Bryant), S.F. Admission is free.
The U.S government and their State Department, year after year, thinks that the rest of the world has got it wrong and that "competition" and mere counter-ideas are to be your only weapons against criminally harmful mafia-like cults and fraudulent organisations posing as religions, whilst at the same time allowing government officials to continue to give tacit or even explicit personal endorsement of their activities.Voice of Russia: Struggle for Religion (26 September 2011)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=42619US State Dept July-Dec. 2010 International Report on Religious Freedom
(released on Sept. 13, 2011)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=38545Inglewood: City Leaders Tout (scientology) group
(Nov 2011)viewtopic.php?p=414722#p414722City and state officials just brimming with joy over new Church Of Scientology in St. Paul
Free speech is just great but how does using competing ideas alone help when the game has been rigged?
Meanwhile, although not perfect, some the rest of the world moves on positively....'Cults in Australia' - CIFS 2011 Conference - FULL VIDEOS
(Nov 2011) *NEW*viewtopic.php?f=11&t=42910Australian Senate Inquiry Tax Laws Public Benefit Test. Hearings/Report
(2010-2011)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32610Call for agency watch on cults (Australia)
(April 2011)viewtopic.php?p=396750#p396750Speech by Georges Fenech, President of MIVILUDES (France)
(Nov 2011)http://www.cifs.org.au/freedoms.phpNetherlands: Provisions for victims to report on cults
(Sept 2011)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=38335Belgium adopts bill to make mental abuse by cults punishable
(June 2011)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35856France: Scientology convicted of fraud and operating an illegal pharmacy
(2009)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31507France: Scientology abandons defence and walks out on fraud trial appeal
(Nov 2011)viewtopic.php?p=415320#p415320UK Government urges councils to stop giving tax breaks to CoS
(Oct 2010)viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32968Germany: Ursula Caberta, Office of the Protection of the Constitution. Hamburg Conference.
Criticizing the US Goverment's direct interference in Germany's policy against the scientology cult.
Feel free to talk about the subject of Jonestown or in the wake of such extremes, talk about the broader issues of government's changing/unchanging attitudes in dealing with cults, or any related wisdom.