Apparently, Tommy Davis hasn't been seen since the big story in the New Yorker came out. Is he being punished by David Miscavige for not handling the media?

Here is a post about TD on Marty's blog, by The Oracle:
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... /#comments



And more from Mike Rinder, also on Marty's blog:

I want rinder and marty to come clean about everything they know, because they know a lot. So far they spoon feed tidbits that make DM look bad, but why hold back? Lay it all on the line boys before it is too late.

I've heard this before and it's complete out-of-context tinfoil speculation to think it would be because TD said that.
The way I see it is that TD was simply being sarcastic, sort of mocking what the other person is driving at. He's not saying that that is what he thinks. It comes across to me as though he's saying it in a facetious way, as if it is a highly ridiculous position to have. In simple terms, he was doing an "inb4".
Of course I don't think it helps the gavity of TD's situation considering his complete and utter fail handling of the whole New Yorker affair from beginning to end, but I really don't think it is some massively important key reason for showing that he's possibly been shoved in "the hole" (or whatever today's equivalent of "the hole" is).

This whole concept of the asthmatic dwarf sending Davis to "handle" the mainstream news media reminds me so much of that Superman III movie, which featured Robert Vaughn as the evil genius villain and the hapless, bumbling, hopelessly incompetent Richard Pryor as his henchman. I love the scene where Pryor reports yet another failed attempt to kill Superman to his boss and Vaughn (in total deadpan) says, "All I ask is that you kill the man of steel, and you tell me that you can't do this one, simple thing."

Why? Seriously. Put yourself in the shoes on a narcissistic, opportunistic criminal and ask yourself this question.

M & M hold the cards to alot of intel which they refuse to release. It's going to take a well-healed victim of M & M during their Scilon days to sue the two, put them under the microscope of scrutiny & under penalty of perjury, to extract intel they are simply not willing to indulge. There's always the talk of statute of limitations. Courts have overridden the statutes in the past when they found "fraud upon the court."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of ... _the_court

Smurf, I know they wont come out and out themselves as complicit in this fraud, but I for one and tired of their finger pointing at abuses and fraud that they took part in and orchestrated. IF nothing else to show that they have extricated themselves from this mess and are a little remorseful.

They have to know that when the house falls it could take them with it.

Sponge, I agree with you here because Christians engage in the same highhandedness. They say that if the Resurrection never happened then Christianity is all a lie. As the Resurrection is the absolute bedrock doctrine of Christianity, anyone who denies it is of course Antichrist in nature.

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I haven't seen any PR statements from anyone over there lately. Maybe Tommy has left. Wouldn't putting him in the hole expose too much "dark side of Scn" to his celebrity mom? How would they get around that? And if nobody has made any PR statements, maybe Jessica left with him. She has "ethics protection" too, coming from the moneyed family that she does.

The most recent PR statement was posted today (dated july 8th). It's the offical response to Janet Reitman's book. Again, no Tommy Davis. Bob Adams of "public affairs" is the name on that.
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Neither Tommy nor Jessica has left.. they are still working their asses off in the Celeb Center offices. I won't reveal my sources, but have a friendship with members of Tommy's family (not in the cult).

I suspect Tommy is running the ops on Marty and the "Squirrel Busters" that are shadowing him. I get a big LOL when I see critics & anons post that Tommy is missing just because he's not doing media interviews. Tommy has been RPF'd several times in the past, and as Marc Headley has also attested, Tommy's blewn the cult on several occasions when it got to hot in the kitchen & DM was pissed... Tommy would hole up in a Las Vegas hotel until DM played nice and allowed him to return.

I doubt Tommy would ever agree to go to the Hole. And there's no love lost between Tommy & Anne.

Have they had a falling out then, Smurf?

I'm glad that Tommy isn't being punished but the reason I, for one, thought as much is because he HAS been sent to RPF and there's been plenty of bad PR for the cult that you would have thought he would have been "handling."

As a PR guy, his job is to do media interviews, after all.

Also, even though TD was being sarcastic with that remark in the Lawrence Wright article, it really came out wrong. Again, the whole reason companies have pr people is to NOT say dumb stuff like that, that could make (does) make the cult look not only bad, but fradulent.

Ah! Bob Adams is quite the horse of a different color if one were to make any comparison,s tact wise with Tommy Davis.

Having spoken briefly with Bob during a Sandy Springs City hall meeting,I came away with the feeling he is not as confrontational as Tommy. Rather demure in mannerism truth be told. Tommy in my opinion is a hot head with a short fuse and not someone I personally would have as my brands point of contact with the real world.

Bob Adam,s on the other hand if one were to be honest does come across to we the general public as a far less obvious kool aid drinker. Tactically a good move from a PR pov. Yet if one lets Bob talk for any length of time in public, he tends to sound like a broken record. Babbling about all the social programs and good will the cult spreads within the community. He in front of the Sandy Springs City council expounded on these non existent social programs on in what I viewed @ as a very rehearsed party line.

What Bob and Tommy fail to provide is any real world physical evidence of these so called social programs. In my area there is none,zero,nadda for a metropolitan area the ninth largest in the nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_metropolitan_area



Now once again, after Tommy,s mind has been raked over the coals and stoked with the fire of the teaching of LRH he will be back in the publics eye and ole Bob will go back doing whatever it is he does. This process will repeat itself over and over until something breaks. A human being can only take so much. Tommy may have reached "The tipping point".

One can only hope.

Smurf, if Tommy isn't in the RPF or the Hole, do you think his status as church spokesperson has been removed? It seems like he was talking to the media on a weekly basis for a while....then nothing for several months.

What is has been so alarming or threatening to the cult's agenda recently that would require Tommy or Jess to wail to the media righ now? There is Janet Reitman's book which has a small following (mostly critics of the cult) but hasn't been front-and-center in the headlines. Much of the content in her book is a rehash of info already out there by virtue of Marc Headley & Nancy Many's books (and Nancy was a consultant on Janet's book).

I'm not discounting the importance of Janet's book, but to those of us that have been around the block with the cult, her information is not new. And outside those that don't have a bone to pick with the cult, I doubt her book will be centerpiece of what's on most people's minds.

I suspect when the local ABC affiliate airs their project, if they do, you will see Tommy on TV screaming religious persecution and claiming ABC supports hate.

I get soooo tired of the PMs and posts on WWP and OCMB that insinuate that because Tommy is not front & center in the news, that he must be in the RPF or The Hole. Alot of tinfoil moonbattery going on and it gets old. There has been recent posts on Marty's and other Indy's blogs of Tommy showing up at the doorstep of family members trying to drive a wedge & using threats of disconnection to rope the Indy back into the fold.

When Mike Rinder was running OSA, there were numerous periods where critics were scratching their heads wondering where he was because he was out of the public eye, when in fact, we was quite busy (and quietly) running covert black ops.