Dear Jeff Quiros,

You said: "We're actually gaining staff." And "There's a lot of info in those posts that lead me to believe this is bogus," Quiros says. "There are seeming specifics, but really it's a lot of generalities. I don't want to get into our church expansion. I want to say we are experiencing expansion -- especially in people walking in off the street." And of course "I'm sure it's not legitimate,".

Well Mr. Quiros, I have sent stats straight out of incomm, using powder free latex gloves, to Lauren Smiley at the SF weekly to prove what I said is true and therefore prove that you speaketh untruth. They are a few months old for the reasons, maybe you will…… well lets see what happens.

You state I may be an ex member thus proving you know people are leaving. They are leaving, look at the list of them all easily available on the internet. Look at the size of your events. You will not be able to keep all your staff off the internet forever Jeff.

Pssssst, listen Jeff, you have no idea if I have been on the phone with you talking about this sit recently or we just passed in the hall or I left staff 2 weeks ago, 2 months ago or 2 years ago. When this is over, drinks on me, but right now our house of cards is falling apart. I think you should get Steve doing all the sec checks from now on. Oh oh oh, wait, how would you know if he missed a R/S, you never video his sessions. Never mind, forget it.

Sec checks for all, where you will find ones who think like I, but not I, as I can F/N anything.

You have no idea how long I have known. You have no idea how long I have been working on this. So far so good on my end, don’t ya think? You should be in the Org more, really.

This is in no way personal, you responded the way you “had to” and I am responding in kind. By the way, someone is posting for me, well maybe, I don’t know, I am not real, am I!!!!

Its time for honesty and as ising!

ARC

Ethicstrouble

To others reading this; obviously I could have done here just what Jerry did and make up graphs, but Jeff and the rest will know these are real and will hopefully look at the true situation in their orgs. You guys and girls keep up the good work.

Hi all,

Well, you have not heard of me for a while because I have been contemplating what to do next and from here on out. For example, because of the nay Sayers on the boards I was tempted to challenge Jeff Quiros, with the threat I would give to Lauren [Lauren Smiley, San Fancisco Weekly] all the rest of the graphs (or maybe some more recent ones) with all names intact, you see, I had only given her about half of the them. I have chosen not to out of respect for my fellow brainwashed staff.

To everyone fighting this fight,WWP, ESMB, Clambake, Lauren, Bunker, moarxenu, Skeptic2girl and all the other wonderful SF protesters, Tony Ortega, my PM friends at WWP, Magoo, Gadfly, HH, Toady, Sponge, Adhocrat, Moog, anna asks, sprtt, chipshotz, jacky blue note, Mark C, Smurf, grebe, Robocat, there are just too many to name all, but you know who you are. If you contributed, you helped. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING A PART OF ME SEEING THE LIGHT!

Thank you for protesting my org, the caek and the Reese's Pieces cookies.

Now a message to my fellow staff and public at SFO who I hope will at some point do a search to find out what all the ET ruckus is/was all about.

I did this because I saw no other way to get to you. To get you thinking, looking, questioning. Its time for us to see we made a mistake. We trusted and believed. We got wins, we stayed and went through all the bullshit because we thought clear, OT and a world without war were within our grasp. If wins were all that were promised!!! Alas we were promised eternity and believed with all our heart.

For me this has been the ultimate betrayal. You should know the truth, but because of the indoctrination you are forced not to look. I hope this was a push to do so.

And now a message to SFOD and SFOF management,

This has played out better than I postulated. It’s so perfect, I love it. I have proven your inability to just find one mole. You trust me like you trust that most of the staff is not Ethics Trouble. I want you to know that ET is standing right in front of you and you will never never question me, but you damn well better start thinking how the hell something like this can happen. You better realize that all the promises not kept are waking people up. You better realize that not one of COB’s promises have come true. When was the last time an org went St. Hill Size? How well off really are all the "Ideal" Orgs? Look beyond the stat push!!! You better realize he is stealing your public, that you will never get the universe corps, you will not get that new building, you are impotent against a bunch of kids protesting, that it’s not the next level that will handle it. You have lost the war because you have done wrong in the name of the greatest good for the greatest number. We had become totally arrogant in thinking we were the only hope for mankind. You and I have lied, manipulated, nattered, invalidated, wrongly accused, looked the other way, made excuses and corrupted how many times. Those acts are weighing on us now and will bring us down. Thank god.
I have realized all this and am just biding my time. I have to make right what I have done wrong. I must let free some of the people I have trapped. Only then will I be at peace with myself. You have not heard the last of me by a long shot. See ya later.

ML,

ET

I love this person. I just do.

So much I wish I could say, here is what I can.

1. Stats are going down.
2. Things are anemic in the org and more people are getting disillusioned.
3. You protesters are having an impact.
4. Events are smaller, less public; approx 80% staff and 20% public.
5. Staff pay is down, some staff can afford a couple lunches at McDonalds with one weeks pay.
6. Debbie Cook’s email created a stir.
7. There is infighting.
8. The OT’s are so brain washed I think only God could straighten them out.
9. The other hard core thinks there is such a thing as OT. Again God.
10. The two categories above can’t support the Org forever.
11. There are no new people, and no new deep pockets.
12. Be careful out there. (this could also be number 1)
13. I may be out sooner than I thought and hope to have a surprise.
14. I can dance, how good is debatable by some, not by me.
15. Love you guys.

Love you back. <3

Ethics Trouble posted the following about a week ago

Yet, ET, who contacted the media last September remains a staff member of the org. This is very fishy. Has any anon questioned ET & asked him/her why they haven't left the cult, yet? Obviously, by his/her own actions and speaking to the SF Weekly, if discovered by the cult, would result in a declare for committing treason. Yet, ET supposedly remains on staff.

I have always believe this was a carefully-created troll that has effectively pulled the eyes over critics. Seems that when efforts in the past were made to ET, they weren't answered. Why is the communication only one way? ET can post on WWP and contact the SF Weekly, but neither any anon or the reporter from the Weekly has the means to contact ET. Anyone can make up stats that they know anons would be happy to read about & rally behind.

I suspect a whole lot of people are being played.

Oh, wait, I think they said that about the last 5 releases, hmmm, why did I forget that? I am making it sound like I am staff; I AM NOT, to throw them off the trail.

I do believe ET, though maybe I'm just a hopeful person. ET could be putting in some red herrings, but I don't think ET is a troll.