Babies and the Sea Org ~~ The Final SOLUTION ~~ Part One..............lots of important information.....
Oh God "The Final Solution", what a horrible, horrible ring that has.
Thank you so much Karen for this information as well as all the other information you have given on this thread.
Of all the many horrible abuses you have covered that are and have been carried out in organized scientology, the ones that affect children, born or unborn, are the ones that tear at my heart the most.
I know you far better than most here and know what a kind and caring person you are. I especially know how much this all tears at your heart as well. And while you and I have so many disagreements about scientology and LRH, we don't disagree on wanting to see all the abuses stopped.
I also know much of what is going on back channels that has huge legal potential of FORCING organized scientology to stop the types of abuses covered on this thread and even potentially bringing criminals like Miscavige to justice. And I know how much you help with this. You have been a big help to me in my getting important information to a major government body to try to get them to take appropriate action.
I don't think that most people know that, like me, you wish to see organized scientology dissolved with its vast financial resources going to people it has hurt and to worthy non-scientology related causes.
I also don't think many people know that you only want the freedom of individuals to practice what they consider "scientology" freely in a non abusive way and you wish to see no more regging of big sums of money for scientology services with "the tech" freely available to anyone who wants to use it. You also agree that it should not be subsidized by our governments.
Like me, you see the future of "scientology" being individuals practicing it at home or in small groups.
I know that you feel that most Indies only want the above and have no desire to take over or run organized scientology, with organized scientology being dissolved as above.
I know your intentions are very good, like your heart.
But, as I mentioned to you on the phone, I do not think that it is realistic that all of what we know as organized scientology will be dissolved from a combination of hugely effective criminal and civil actions against it. At least we should not count on that.
By all means let us keep up with actions towards that end, but I suspect that there will indeed be an organized scientology even when Miscavige is forced out and hopefully prosecuted.
And this means that an organized scientology will exist with the resources to carry out the same types of fraud and abuses as the organized scientology we now know, complete with horrid policies covering the RPF, the Sea Org, disconnection, hard selling, treating innocent people as criminals, destroying opponents, etc.
And all that means that someone has to run it.
Can we count on people of good heart who were never abusive running it, cancelling abusive policies and making sure no future abuses happen? If history has taught us anything I fear that we cannot count on that even though we both talked of people who were never abusive even though we were high up in scientology in the past.
Certainly it should raise concerns such as those raised by many on this thread.
I and I know others who are not Indies or believers in anything LRH are going to stand side by side with you and other Indie whistleblowers of good heart to expose and fight the abuses found in organized scientology.
I know that if anyone has the possibility of carrying out a version of scientology that does not contain the abuses and policies covering the above, it would be you and people who have a heart like your own.
But I suspect that it will not be as easy a job as some Indies may think. And I believe you are going to have to steel yourself for a lot of criticism from people, such as those on this thread, who have been hurt in scientology or by scientologists and who have valid and very real concerns that there will never be a non abusive scientology.
I hope that all of us with concerns concerning scientology are proven wrong and can just go our own ways on each our own paths.
But in the meantime I suggest that many Indies brace themselves for the fact that our beautiful karmetic vortex has not yet run its course and is still to run though much more of what is scientology as has been practiced by regs, ethics officers, "special affairs", RTC, CMO and any other parts of any form of an organized scientology that have hurt others.
Although I will first stand up for the rights of all to speak out, my deepest wish and my heart is with you to do well on this my dear friend.