Questions that has never been answered is how Debbie Cook was able to free herself from the SP Hole. Debbie claimed in court that she spoke to her mother by telephone and told her if she hadn't heard from Debbie again in 3 days to call the police. Debbie was then moved from the SP Hole to Hacienda Gardens in Cleawater.

How did Debbie gain access to a telephone in the SP Hole? Why was she allowed to contact her mother who is not in the cult?

There seems to be the belief, which was reflected in the judge's opinions in Marc Headley's lawsuit, that if one doesn't want to be in the SP Hole and makes a stink about it, they are allowed to leave. Those that don't make a stink about their imprisonment are there & accepting of their predicament from their own free will and because they are consenting adults.

The courts never get into defining "free will" when it comes to abuses in the cult.

It is probably a combination of the tech + Hubbard's ingenious military overlay of the Sea Org that keeps people from questioning orders. It looks like Scientology robs people of their survival skills. Simple things, like going to the doctor when you're sick.

Someone on Ex-Scientology Message Board recently re-posted an essay I wrote a couple of years ago.
Knowing that the "Church" would do everything to disconnect my son from me and poison him against me I used the pen name "War and Peace" while posting on the web.
(Every day another of Alexander's friends comes forward to tell me just what "Office of
Special Affairs" Intelligence Branch personnel did to convince Alexander that I was bad.)

Here's the essay I wrote ~~ worth a Read.
VALENTINE DAY'S MASSACRE




Monday, 03 May 2010 07:20


In 1995 we were briefed at Int on a major security breach that had taken place at Incomm. Down in LA weeks later I saw a hunted pale platoon of Incomm crew being marched from a backlines corridor into a doorway. Back up at Int, David Miscavige bragged at a briefing to Int base staff that he was going to catch the spy and that the staff were undergoing an RTC ethics program that Miscavige was personally directing. As a note to these and any other ex-SO who were coerced to sign contracts for non-disclosure to enforce silence, you can determine the validity of all such documents with a simple test: were you provided with a copy of the contract or agreement? If not, then the "contract" is NOT binding and has NO legal force on you whatsoever. So let the power of truth ring out. ~ Thoughtful


The DEATH of INCOMM

This is probably the worst incident that occurred in the history of the Church OUTSIDE of infamous INT BASE.

It is the worst incident of kidnap, held against will, breaking laws of the land and it happened on Valentine's Day 1995.

It lasted 4 months and was perpetrated by RTC and COB breaking many laws of the land.

For 4 months, INCOMM staff members  were under complete lock down, unable to see their spouses or children marched only to their berthing to sleep by security Guards.

A Mission arrived "to get ethics in" on the alleged criminal "out ethics scum" that were INCOMM SO members. Liz Ingber and Suzanne Bolstad were head honchos.

"INCOMM" definition:  The organization of SO members that manage everything to do with Church computers; short for "in communication."

Liz Ingber -- this woman is the "Cold Chrome Steel" as described in previous article. She is detached, emotionless, cruel, unable to feel but happy to mete out cruelty  I have known her personally for more than 3 decades and I will state she is an unconscionable evil witch.

Liz Ingber orders INCOMM staff into 2 lines, all males in one line, all females in another line. Circling in between the lines were a bunch of INT Missionaires with lanyards and the fruit salad of colored insignia.  They carried batons similar to the German swagger sticks.
These are Batons giving a symbol of authority (and ability to strike or beat ~~ British cops carry batons)

Every single SO member is  handed a manila envelope, told to write their name on it and empty their pockets and if wearing pagers, it went into the envelope.  The SO member then had to spread the legs  and spread out their arms while a metal detecting wand was frisked over the body from head to toe.   This kept on going for a while.  A new person would enter the room.   They were ordered to empty their pockets, spread eagle for metal detection and go stand in male or female line. There was an uncomfortable silence and sense of heavy ethics.

Liz Ingber called the room to "ATTENTION!" in a toneless disassociated unemotional cold voice spat out "You are all assigned a condition of Confusion.  You are all suppressive with hidden crimes of magnitude for allowing an SP to infiltrate INCOMM.  Your daily massive crimes have blinded your perception which is the only REASON you did not detect the infiltrator.  You obviously do not care in an SP  destroys the Church.  You are hereby under House Arrest.  You will not leave the base, you will not leave INCOMM, you will not talk to your family, you are under total lock down.  Your crimes permitted your minds to be so blinded to this enormous threat that could have taken down Scientology in totality~~ man's only help and only solution."

Happy Valentine's Day!

The Sound of Silence in the room was deafening.  There is a certain kind of mental mass that builds up in a group when they are being maligned, threatened and their immediate future is taken away in a lock down.  The group's awareness level drops to the bands of Catastrophe and Disaster.  There was  a frozen numbness.

There were no KRs. No data of WHO this infiltrator SP was.   There was no Court of Ethics, no Comm Evs being called, there was no consideration of whether anyone was upstat or downstat, everyone was to do conditions and write up their overts and withholds.  This then started a massive and endless cycle of sec checks, rejected conditions, re-done conditions, write ups of every "CRIME"  these dedicated, billion year contract SO members were committing.

A young guy from Denmark approached Liz Ingber.  He explained to Liz Ingber that he had a big overt he had given up in his Sec Check and felt he should route out as he was not up to SO standards.  Liz Ingber, did not ask what he gave up in the sec check, she did not ask him to work through a condition on it, but instead told him he would be instantly declared suppressive and could go join the walking dead.  She tells him he would never *EVER* in ANY LIFETIME, *EVER* GO OT.   She is detached as cold chrome steel.

The next day Liz Ingber berates an INCOMM staff member for masterbating she does it publicly to humiliate him.  This is 1995, a decade before the infamous INT SP Hole, and pc folder withold of masterbation is read out to the entire crew to mock and humiliate the SO member.

Suzanne  Bolstad now starts a vitriolic attack on the shell shocked numb SO Members.  "I see most of you are not OT III.  This is plain evidence of the criminal out ethics of the group.  Good up stat SO members  go OT, only the criminal downstats would withold themselves from case gain and Bridge.  You all have serious crimes and as criminals you are subconsciously witholding yourself from becoming more able !'   There was no mention that there were no auditors, or staff enhancement personnel within INCOMM to get them up the Bridge.

Days turned into weeks, turned into months.  Over and over and over the word CRIMINAL is given as an ITEM to SO members who had nothing to do with any breach of security.   It was sec checking, O/W writing, and conditions.  NO contact with family, complete and under isolation from the rest of humanity.  They were herded by security to berthing which was isolated from rest of crew and herded back to INCOMM.  In order to do Amends over the above a group member, many lost sleep doing heavy deck cycles ~~ hours and hours of manually  moving back up tapes from storage in Burbank.  Another amends was destroying 14" cartridges that stored data files.  The reflective backing had to be obliterated, hard drives had to have the magnetic media sanded off.  Sleep, amends, sec checks, O/Ws with a complete cut off from family and the outside world.

When you have to figure-figure on your crimes day in and day out, hour after hour, week and after week, it is damaging spiritually.  It is Black Dianetics.  It is Reverse Scientology.  It is a David Miscavige perversion of the tech.   Even psychiatrists are not that cruel.  This demand for crimes 8 hours a day for months is not only unhealthy, it introverts the person into depths of case they may not be able to extrovert from.

Normally, one of the steps of Liability is to get permission of the majority of the group to complete the step.  As a complete arbitrary, the Mission announced that every INCOMM  liability  formula had to get the approval of ALL the Missionaires, (a bunch of them), all RTC involved. and ALL INCOMM who had been upgraded.  This was tough.  Rejects by RTC were common.  No typewriters existed and because INCOMM  staff were such a bunch of "untrustworthy criminals" every single formula had to be hand written with carbon copies to make duplicates, and so it dragged out.  Time was endless.  Work, study, ethics conditions and amends were in the same room for these 4 months.  Sleeping was under guard.  Walking to the Shower was under guard by escort.  There was no other life.  There was no free hour or free minute.  Every hour of every day was controlled and taken over with dire threats of suppressive person declares which would result in complete disconnection from family.

Finally after 4 months of complete lock down and captivity INCOMM staff were threatened once again to not reveal ANYTHING that happened under further dire threats of declare and doom forever and forever disconnection from family and friends.  It was not to come up in any future session!  In other words the orders were to withold the lock down from here on out.  Some were taken to sign documents swearing secrecy on video camera and reminded what would happen to them if they ever spoke of this lock down EVER.

Now the purge finally started. From approx 60 Incomm staff, it was down to 10.   Many were further punished by being sent to PAC estates from whence they blew.  Some simply blew after the 4 month incarceration.  This TERROR side of Scientology was beyond what many could stomach.  Not everybody has a threshold of tolerance for such absue ~~ 4 months of interrrogating for CRIMES. These fine SO members who had passed high HCO qualifications to get clearance to be in INCOMM were IMPLANTED to think they were the criminals of all time.   The last 10 SO  Members  instead of going back on post were ordered by Miscavige to be RPF'd after surviving the 4 month brutality.  Not a single charge or specific.  They were handled as BLOB.   The BLOB  had no individuality.  The BLOB was responsible for the out security.    Almost all of those remaining 10 fled. (blew)

One of the worst tactics of Church of Miscavology is treating the crew like a BLOB.  Everyone is penalized for one person's conduct.

This is remarkable given that there are many references to the fact that A does not equal B, does not equal C.

In fact A=A=A is a known reactive mind flaw.

Not with Miscavige's implementation of ETHICS.   It somebody BLOWS, severe punishment and abuse is inflicted on those around, as the conclusion is that "bad indicators" were missed, by those around.   The reason they missed these indicators were they had there own crimes and overts hence making them unable to perceive the indicators around them.  I have known of SO members sent the RPF for YEARS due to someone ELSE blowing.

Meting out the exceptional cruelty in the SP HALL where everyone was treated like one mad mob with no one able to get up the conditions is an example of squirrel Miscavige ethics.  THE BLOB treatment.  There are no upstats, there are no producers, there is no ethics  change acknowledged, the blob is to remain a continuous BLOB.

The Sea Org has a knack of recruiting good people.  Extremely good personnel.  Bright minds.  Spiritually aware.  Recognition of the Legacy of the tech.  Wanting to help others, wanting to be of service.   But the SO cannot maintain good people.  It just does not happen.  It is a revolving door and many flee to get out of  the Church of Miscavology.  They flee from the abuse.  They flee from the brutality.  They flee from the Insanity.

These 60 SO members were not just removed from post, they were abused 24/7 for 120 days breaking many FEDERAL Laws of lock down and enforced kidnap against their will with unconscionable threats.

Dan Garvin is acknowledged for having the guts to post this dark episode SO history on the Internet in 2003 on Operation Clambake.  I am now  in touch with blown INCOMM staff  who endured this ..still decompressing !   More about the terror imposed on good staff will surface in due course.  It was Dan who called it "Valentine's Day Massacre" and the name was just too apt to try renaming it.  Dan was another computer whiz wasted by the Church.  He left soon after this incident  as well.

This dark episode needs to be on record in Scientology-cult.com because it shows Scientology Management via David Miscavige executed his total authority over the lives of SO members even at PAC base, and in the first years since 1995 when this occurred, the brutalities intensified but the odor and fingerprints are unmistakeable.  [/b]


Written by Karen de la Carriere/Jentzsch (posts as "Karen#1" and formerly posted as "War and Peace")
Anyone who wants to contact me privately can do so at:  Karendelac@gmail.com
Home page: Karendelac.com

Not true. This question is answered in the full Debbie Cook story. Debbie never said she freed herself from DM's SP hole. Here's the background info. Debbie was taken off her post at Flag to do a "special project" for Dave, because he didn't have anyone else "competent enough" to get his special project done. The real reason he needed her to do his special project was because he took all his Int staff off post and placed them in the SP hole. So Debbie goes to Int and is working directly for Dave doing his special project. Then she falls out of grace with Dave and winds up in the hole too. Eventually the stats crash at Flag and Dave pulls Debbie out of the hole and returns her to the Flag land base to put out all the hill 10's he's now created there. That is when Debbie first blows- after "returning to the Int hole" was used as a threat (a "worse than" in scientologese). That is when when Debbie and her husband steal the Flag van and attempt to escape from the Sea Org. But the Sea Org goons track them down and convince them to come back and "route out properly". While she is complying with this, she somehow realizes she really is a prisoner and they will never let her go. That is when she spoke to her mother on the phone- while she was at Flag routing out. After that, they offered Debbie and Wayne the 100K silence money, did the videos and let them go. I am sure Debbie let them know about the phone call with her mother. I dk if Debbie realizes that phone call is ultimately what freed her. All scientologists and especially Dave are afraid of the police. Why? because deep in their hearts they know they are breaking the law.

I have gotten excellent results speaking with scientologists about "breaking the law". When you do this, their I.Q. suddenly jumps 50-100 points and they begin to see things your way.

The full Debbie Cook story is out there, just look for it.

The Sea Organization is the 5000 or so Scientologists that sign the Billion year contracts to serve the "Church" do or die.
Recruiters lurk in every nook and cranny and aggressively recruit the children of Scientologists who, as a general rule last 1 to 5 years, the turn over is incredible. People reach a threshold and depart.

The Sea Organization is where most of the abuse occurs. One of the first things they do is take away the passport. The next thing they do is to forbid driving a car unless one goes through a Scientology "CAR SCHOOL" education which is so off the wall, such unbelievable clap trap that even a car mechanic would have trouble getting through it.

Of course this is designed so you do not drive away (flee).
No Church in the history of man has as many people fleeing in the middle of the night or needing police / Riverside Sheriff / Los Angeles Police Department / California Highway Patrol Assistance to flee.

Sea Org members have fled from all over the world...here are some that fled from INT Base with Police escort ~~

(These 4 below worked minimally 20 years in the Sea Organization now laughingly called "bitter defrocked apostates".

Jesse Prince used Law Enforcement to help him escape.
Andre Tabayoyin used Law Enforcement to help him escape
Jeff Walker (Class XII CS, Senior CS INT) called 911 and had Law enforcement help him escape.
Marc Headley had the help of a law enforcement escort to help him escape.



For over 30 years the 'Church" of Scientology have engaged in unlawful conduct to prevent Sea Org members, (essentially Scientology employees) from leaving INT Base/Gold Base.

This is why they surrounded their base with intimidating spikes, advanced electronic security devices.

Russ Bellin, a long term Sea org member, and a Victim of "SP Hole" for years (dubbed the "Dungeon" by Law enforcement because of its punitive nature tried to escape some 2 years ago. His leg got tangled in the fence and security hauled him back. He has never been heard of again.

I was held captive there for 6 months, and spoke up: "You are holding me against my will, You are breaking the Law, this is kidnap, I do not wish to be here, i do not want to be here and you are holding me against my will" I told "Jackson" Security Chief at the time. Jackson corroborates this data on the blogs.
His name is Gary Morehead and he has been a consistent whistleblower as well.
Gary was a 2nd generation Scientologist born into it all.
He admits that he was the author and creator of "Blow Drill"
Gary spoke out recently on "Inside Edition" and he is a dear and close personal friend

http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/r ... head.shtml

Imagine a "Church" that people need to flee from with the help of Law Enforcement. It defies reality. A Church should be a sanctuary, a place to go to mediate and reflect and pray.

Funnily enough, on the Eve of exiting the Church I returned to my Catholic roots as a safe harbor. Earlier, I wrote this up on another blog~~
My former roots ~~ The Catholic Church.

I wrote this the day before I exited the "Church" of Scientology

Following the trail of something I read on Jeff Hawkin’s Blog, I decided to re-visit the Catholic Church in downtown Los Angeles. I just wanted peace and quiet ~~ a place to contemplate and meditate and think about things.

I had already made my decision to befriend Marty and Mike Rinder which I had previously been warned and cautioned by an Exec at OSA was IRREVOCABLE……

I had much to contemplate. I was exiting a life and Church I had contributed to for 35 years….

I drove downtown to the heart of Los Angeles to a magnificent Cathedral ~~ Our Lady of Angels. Yes it was posh, marble, a flawless piece of architecture, inside though were humble Mexicans huddled together, and others~the rank and file of life displaying no opulence ~~ all happy to find solace and comfort in this magnificent structure.

I wandered in as Tourist, but I had a strange sense of returning home. I recalled my childhood and attending mass, the comforting sounds, the sense of communion.

Unlike the Sea Organization this Catholic Church was a safe Space

An Organ was playing, I wandered down one flight down to the Mausoleum. In front of me was a crypt of the actor Gregory Peck. OLD Hollywood. More memories.

My eyes gazed at the plaque with the legend

The Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels Mausoleum is the only structure in the world where the opportunity for interment in a site of such religious significance is available to all - not just a “privileged few”.

I am doing mental comparisons. My mind is computing. “Not just a privileged few”

I am comparing WHERE I AM TO WHERE I WAS CHURCH -WISE.

I sat down in a wooden pew to think.
I found I could think in logical sequences without *NOISE* in my head

I gazed along the main corridor, and saw the sixteen large stained glass windows along the north and south hallways, A lot of vibrant earth tones ~~ red, yellow, brown, orange and rust. Light also enters the Cathedral and devotional chapels by way of large, slanted shafts. I love great lighting effects.


There was no frenzy, yelling, bullying, sentencing to the Gulags, threatening, punching, abusive and vulgar language ~~ none of that ever occurred or would ever occur ~~ in this place of sanctuary.

I wandered by the religious figures and the little chapel offshoots.
No one is asking me for money. No one is insisting I buy the latest release ~~ no one is trying to route me to some Reg for my next IAS status !

I contemplated more and more how the frantic rhythm and insatiable urge for a rising Thursday 2pm stat took everything profound and beautiful away from my “Church”.
How could this happen ? How could my former husband Heber Jentzsch be in a lockdown in SP Hole for years and years unable to see his son but once in 6 years ? Unable to be a parent ? I thought about many things.

I passed a Collection Box and willfully deposited a generous donation.

The traditional Catholic Hymn AVE MARIA was now playing. It is emotional music. I am on a journey, a journey with consequences to my actions.

For no reason at all, I knelt down and wept.

Karen de la Carriere
Karendelac@gmail.com

well, that got to me. I'm not catholic, but there is something spiritual about a holy parent who loves unconditionally and forgives based on your want to be forgiven. I hope you can find that same peace outside the walls of the church and wherever you are.

The "free will" you mention reminds me of the term "tacit consent." I understand that term to mean that if you fail to express disapproval, then you approve by default.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... NQ3Y2EruBI

Just caught this on youtube. On the subject of "in the hole", Mark Bunker was saying that Heber was supposed to be let out of it to attend Alexander's services. That should have happened by now. I don't check back often enough, so I'm just looking for an update.....

Thank you, Dorothy, for the clarification of facts on Debbie.

That's a beautiful story about you visiting the Cathedral, Karen. They are such uplifting spaces. If you'd like a cathedral experience that has married priests and women priests and is accepting of gay marriage, and STILL has the wine and wafers, try St. Johns at 514 W Adams Blvd, LA.

St. John's is Episcopalian, not Catholic. Episcopalian clergy are not required to take a vow of celibacy, and it's long had women priests. They approved gay men becoming clergy in 2009.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2 ... ergy_N.htm

Many Catholic priests, tired of the arcane rules of the Vatican, have quit the Catholic Church and become Episcopalian priests, where they have thrived while raising a family.

Thank you Don Carlo.
Great suggestion.
Although I am not Gay I have dear friends and that are Gay and get Emails
from distraught Scientologists around the world on enforced ETHICS CYCLES done to change them away from
the Gay Lifestyle or else....
Believe it or not the "CHURCH" has this on its STAFF APPLICATION FORM



HAVE YOU EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN PROSTITUTION, HOMOSEXUALITY, ILLEGAL SEX OR PERVERSION ?

GIVE WHO, WHEN, WHERE, WHAT IN EACH INSTANCE

Read clause #42
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Scientology_c ... tion,_1999

That's right, the "Church" classifies prostitution and sexual perversion, "Illegal sex" with a Gay life style !

I do not know of a "Church" more homophobic and I wish Hollywood would learn more about this....it is so archaic, so pre-Noah's Ark, so outlandish as to be spat on.


Note how the Church wants all the details on record of your private sexual conduct..... for later use on you (if you depart and speak out about the abuses) "leaking" private information anonymously by their dirty black bag "Office of the Special Affairs."

Karen de la Carriere
Karendelac@gmail.com

I forgot to add that St. John's was Episcopal. I enjoyed the sensory feast of the Episcopalians years ago; now I'm a lapsed Unitarian.

When Episcopalians allowed gay priests, some uptight anti-gay Episcopalians quit to join the Catholic Church, while some pro-gay Catholics quit to join the Episcopalians. I can see a lot of pro-gay CoS members quitting and joining the Indies over CoS's anti-gay attitudes and dogma, but I can't see Independent Scientologists re-joining CoS over gay rights.

Even though the "Church" of Scientology pretends that one of the most effective therapeutic disciplines is getting off one's transgressions, secrets, witholds, ~~ in actual fact~~~~

Sea org members are forced to withold every part of their lives from non Sea Org members.
This means their parents, their closest relatives, siblings, anyone outside the Sea Org must never know what goes on within the Sea Org.

This is an ENFORCED WITHOLD.
Keep it secret
Keep it hush hush.
Keep it in lock down.

The Church's good PR is senior to the Sea Org members right of free speech or good mental health.

There was so much Alexander could not tell me because it is Iron Clad Law within the Sea Org not to reveal what goes on inside.

One day, he let his hair down and told me about an incident that occurred when he was 12 years old, cleaning toilets, mopping floors and vacuuming carpets at the Fort Harrison in Clearwater while getting no schooling. He only felt comfortable telling me this because the perpetrator had fled the Sea Organization and was declared Suppressive Person.

By the way I do take full responsibility for raising him as a 2nd generation Scientologist.
The only reason they grabbed him for slave labor in the Sea org was with bribery of how he would have more time with his father, and would be rewarded by permitting a father/son relationship. It never happened

One cruel example of RTC indulging in superiority and bullying is the incident of the RTC Rep at the Flag Land Base in 1995 who decided to target my son Alexander Jentzsch — 12 years old at the time.  Alexander was not permitted to go to school, but instead  was used for janitorial duties 12 hours a day in child slave labor.  Alexander cleaned toilets and the lobby of the Fort Harrison and all the grimy back staircases and service entrances behind the galley in violation of child labor laws.

Alexander told me the story years later. The RTC Rep was a young Miscavige bully who would place his face one inch away from Alexander’s face and say:  

"You  WANT  to hit me, don't you?"

"You want to strike me, but you are too chicken"

"You would love to punch me in the jaw in retaliation, but you do not have the guts, sissy!"

Alexander Jentzsch would say quietly "No Sir, I do not want to hit you," while looking down at the floor.  

Why this RTC Rep had it in for Alexander, why these bizarre episodes occurred, I do not understand. But in the Sea Org you dare not write a Knowledge Report on RTC. And this "RTC Rep" knew that Alexander was orphaned in Clearwater because his Ex- Sea Org mom was 3,000 miles away in Los Angeles and his father Heber was incarcerated by DM and put on slave labor, steam-cleaning the engines of buses from morning till night.


Alexander could not report this child abuse. Alexander could never be critical of a DM’s appointment of an RTC thug. Only years later after the RTC REP blew and was declared, did Alexander feel "safe" telling me about the incident.

Alexander did not feel safe for many years in sharing how he was abused and harmed. When a felony was committed on him, he was ordered to not speak about.   This is symptomatic of the single biggest problem inside of the cult. Whistleblowers are now emerging, but the last 25 years of secrecy is because of the culture...total secrecy of what occurs within the Sea Organization and heavy penalties for revealing what goes on inside. There is extreme abuse, extreme cruelty, heavy penalties of cleaning areas that engineering equipment should only clean, and this is routinely assigned to "Sea org members". Because it is so draconian, so medieval, so crushing and over the top, it is understandable that what happens in the Sea org must stay in the Sea org.

Hurray for the whistleblowers as more and more of this gets revealed....

Karen de la Carriere
Karendelac@gmail.com

I am racking my brain trying to find the answer to this question -- why not a single DM victim retaliated against him by, say, sticking his head into a toilet and flushing the water? I am not talking about 12-year-olds, I am talking about grown men. I do not think that their will was broken because many of them have left CoS meaning that they took their fate into their hands. But it pisses me off seeing that no one did substantial physical damage to DM.