I've read DM is always surrounded by bodyguards when he's beating people up, so hitting him back wouldn't be practical. Plus the guy hitting back would get arrested or worse, be thrown in the RPF's RPF. If the person being beaten can get out, with witnesses, before the statute of limitations runs out on Micavige beating him, then the criminal justice system can exact justice upon DM.

The reason people involved in $cientology take the abuses and suck them up without complaining or retaliating is that they completely believe the promises made on $cientology's grade chart.

The promotion for the SP/PTS (suppressive person/potential trouble source) course says that it has every issue of any kind from L. Ron Hubbard in which he said anything about suppressive persons. (In my opinion there is no such thing as a suppressive person and L. Ron Hubbard's materials on the subject are all erroneous.)

Within $cientology it was my experience that almost every person who had a 'wog job' (a job working for people who are not involved in $cientology) had stated that they had a boss who was a suppressive person. One of the things I looked for when I took the SP/PTS course was how a suppressive person, who can't complete a cycle of action, and who does not see the environment as it actually is, can manage to become a boss, a senior, an in/charge, or a political leader. You know what I found on that subject in the SP/PTS course? Nothing.

From L. Ron Hubbard's writings it is strongly implied that suppressive persons in orgs are always not among executive level personnel in the orgs. Executive level personnel would be directors and above. Not only that, it is a crime to accuse anyone in an org who is senior of being a suppressive person.

That's the policy. The staff in orgs in $cientology are cowed by L. Ron Hubbard's policy and their belief in the promises on $cientology's grade chart. So they will take any abuse meted out to them by anyone who is senior to them in the organization. They're trained and conditioned to do that. If they don't take it they are "off policy" and/or "out tech" and "out KSW." (Keeping $cientology Working policy)

Unfortunately the recovery period for most people who leave the cult is longer than the terms of the statutes of limitations related to almost all abuses meted out on them. This works to the organization's advantage. Legislation that takes that into account should be enacted but odds are that it won't ever happen.

Well, if DM is always surrounded by the bodyguards, then hitting him back does not make sense. However, there are other means of taking him down, although I won’t discuss them at this website.

I believe than a vengeful person can always find a way of getting back at the abuser. On the other hand, it cold be that the course that Wieber mentioned (SP/PTS), along with similar Scientology courses, affect a person in such way that he becomes unable to fight back. It is not for me to judge how effective those courses are because I have no idea of what kind of material they cover (I can make an educated guess about the content of a course, but it is not the same as taking it).

The paranoia of secrecy within the Scientology Inc. culture has a weak point.
An achilles heel.
What to do about departing members that might squeal ?
What if the blown (fled) Sea Org members go to Law Enforcement ?
Beatings, punchings, assault and battery occurred daily at INT base
for decades.

See the 5 part series The "Church" of Scientology ~ A History of Violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJN7eptXjY4

SOLUTION !
Muzzle and gag the departing Sea Org member.
Use a Psychological Ops technique (Psych Ops)

Get the departing staff member on Video tape with a couple of Lawyers in the room.
A couple of security Guards. (hidden from the camera angle)
Show the victim he is on videotape.
Make him sign each clause giving away his rights to free speech
NEVER to mention anything that went on within the confines of the Organization.
$50,000 for each violation.
These gags are worthless ! Co-erced no matter what the language says. The best Legal minds have proclaimed them WORTHLESS !
But it's a Psych Ops. The departing staff member believes it !

Sample Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYwhJ5e0sq0


Give him a bribe $$$$$$ a consideration, to make the contract binding.
Hey, it's a Church, a 501C 3 on "religiosity" but it argues on business contracts and business issues
all the time.
Tax free as a religion, business to the core.
Why on earth would a "church' want to silence a departing staff member ?

"VOLUNTARILY" of course.
Leaving (blowing) without this procedure is an SP declare cutting you off from
all family, children, spouses.

The most Ethical group on the Planet ! (they call themselves)

Karen de la Carriere
Karendelac@gmail.com

Today I was reading Tony Ortega's Blog, where he named Sea Org members who had been in SP Hole.

The cruel sadistic punishment trailers at INT Base.
And there I read on top

Quote:

Lisa Allen (Schroer) CO Gold (commanding officer, Golden Era Productions) -- "She worked in CMO Int and blew. After she was brought back, she was put in Gold. She worked in Cine, was promoted to Cine Sec and then eventually became the CO Gold. Originally from Australia. Her mother is Elaine Allen (a former executive in CMO Int)

How would you like to hear the LEADER of your Religion call your Mother a Slut ?

(The story has been told before on the web my Marc Headley but relevant to the theme of ABUSE at the top, it bears re-telling)

Lisa and her twin sister Kate were born into Scientology, 2nd generation Scientologist. their mother Elaine Allen was contributing to Church growth in Australia and reached the top post in the continent ~~ The Commanding Officer of the Advanced Org. But the stats were not good enough ! Enough money was not being sucked in, so true to form Scientology thugs descended an "ethics" mission. And so began the GANG BANG Sec Checks.

This is a "CHURCH" that believes a gang of thugs yelling and screaming at you can force you to confess ! I kid you not. The pretense of calling these actions "religious" boggle the mind. This Gang Bang "Security checking" was around for decades under David Miscagive's reign.
A GANG of David Miscavige emissaries designed to overwhelm you into confessing gory, bloodcurdling, sensational crimes !

And we who whistleblow are bitter defrocked apostates !

Elaine Allen is in her 60s. She has worked a lifetime in Scientology and is being accused of jumping in the hay with some public. They even picked out some local public and accused her of sexual intercourse. After some hours of this, Elaine said sarcastically, "Yeah, that's the crime, I had sex !" They had their CRIME ! They had their confession !
Even though the Gang bangers knew she had been facetious, they sent the triumphant news up to David Miscavige at INT Base and Elaine was summoned to the Gulag in Los Angeles where she spent the next 6 years. The "Rehabilitation" Project Force. <spit>

Meanwhile a conference occurred at INT Base and David Miscavige, the head honcho of Scientology INC was making small talk while the others showed up. He loved to gossip. The "Pope" of Scientology he told Tommy Davis to tell the media ~~ "Tell them I am equivalent to the POPE.

The Pope of Scientology, gossiping ~~

Quote:

So did you hear about this old slut in ANZO?” David Miscavige says. “Yeah, we’ve had a mission down there and they put this chick on the meter and she confessed to all this lurid shit. Turns out this old hag down in ANZO has been fucking this big FSM down there and smoking his pole every chance she got. And she like 60 years old! She was the fucking CO of the AO! No wonder my new programs have not been getting done. Anyway, I could not believe it ” David Miscavige laughs as he recounts the story

.

There is a quiet silence in the room. All the people around know that Miscavige is gossiping about Lisa's Mom. Lisa is in stunned silence and Miscavige hurls insult after insult about this 40 year member of the "Church."

Knowing that Lisa was from Australia he finally turns to her "Did you know this bitch?" he asks.

"Yes Sir, She is my mother Sir" Lisa responded.
“Lisa Allen is my maiden name Sir.” Lisa tells him so he can connect the dots.


~~~To be continued.

Karen de la Carriere
Karendelac@gmail.com

I need to complete last post but I just wanted to add something that might not be widely known.

Shortly after John Brousseau fled INT BASE in 2010, a RESCUE was planned for Lisa Allen (Schroer)

She had been placed in isolation for a long time and was under the wrath and sadism of Miscavige.

Marty and JB showed up at the Guard booth at INT Base, and by some bungling error within were able to get through to Lisa on the phone. This was 2010.
Marty and JB told Lisa they were there to rescue her and that she could just walk through the Guard gates.
(Obviously there would be consequences if she was pleading to leave and she was being held against will with Marty and JB ready to alert Law enforcement).

Unbelievably

Lisa took their phone call and told them to "Fuck off!" She was completely not able to take advantage of the rescue and chose to stay


Karen de la Carriere
Karendelac@gmail.com

Good for Marty and JB to at least give her a choice.

Miscavige publicly calling someone a slut, in front of her daughter, shows he has contempt for women, in addition to contempt for gays. I wonder what other groups (handicapped, chonically ill, aged, low-income, poor-English-speaking, etc.) he has contempt for.

As far as I can tell, Miscavige seems to have contempt for the human race.

And yes, kudos to Marty and JB for trying.

The bars, binders, chains and prison of the mind seem to be stronger by far than any physical ones.

The Hole isn't really necessary. Miscavige must really enjoy humiliating people, relish their pain and delight in their suffering.

If only DM could go to prison, where he belongs, then he will get all that and then some!!

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... e_hole.php

The list of people who have been treated in this way is shocking.

As for why Lisa didn't run, I found an article by Robert Vaughn Young who was a member of CoS for 21 years and was finally put into the RPF. He began to fear for his life and managed to escape several times but was always found by OSA and talked into going back. They didn't use force; he went voluntarily, persuaded it was for the best.

He finally realised that he had much in common with battered or abused women. They may run but on the whole they put up with it. If they do get out and are found by their husbands they are easily persuaded to go 'home' and then it repeats.'

It seems to be too much of a change to someone who has already used up all their resources just to cope from day to day.

Moreover they have no home to go to, no money, no transport, no credit cards, no phone. In is frightening but familiar; out is more frightening because it is unfamiliar.

In almost every instance when someone leaves a cult they come away with nothing. That's a state engineered by cult leaders. Members of cults, especially staff members working for cults are the cult leader's property. Cult leaders will deny it but that is pretty much their attitude toward their followers.

A person in a cult, especially one working for a cult in the capacity of a staff member, has nothing. That is especially true of those in the inner circles of the cult. If they want to leave they look into the future and see that they will not have anything. Aside from the results of the conditioning, manipulation and destructive influence they have been subjected to the prospect of being alone with nothing is daunting.

You make a good point. Critics on the outside assume because of the abuse that has taken place, that Scilons at Gold are jumping at the opportunity to flee, and that's not always the case.

It's no different than anything else in religion. How often are Christians told that they're responsible for their dilemmas & need to confess their sins and pray about it? Guilt & shame are marketed as necessary components to "being one with God." They are told their personal suffering are God's way of testing their spiritual strength & will, and that if you're poor & in pain, it's ultimately "God's will".

You have a group of Scilons that have long lived with the mentality they are homo novis & classier than the wogs outside of Scientology. Why would being slapped around by DM or imprisoned in the Hole lead it's "inmates" to want to join the wogs that are beneath them? I can see where many would continue living as inmates & hoping their predicaments get better in the future.