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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:10 pm

"CHURCH" OF SCIENTOLOGY
ABUSIVE TO THEIR MEMBERS.
SADISTICALLY ABUSIVE TO SEA ORG MEMBERS.
ABUSIVE of using Law Enforcement to ARREST members
who have spoken out.

AND ABUSIVE OF THE LEGAL ARENA

Perhaps this is one of the reasons Rupert Murdoch denounced the "Church" as Creepy and Evil.


Many Officers of the Courts have given blistering statements about the CULT of Scientology.
Here's a good one ~~



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Last Friday was a dark day for the embattled Church of Scientology. A special judge in Los Angeles attacked the church in the most blistering terms possible, charging it with gross abuse of the judicial process in its unsuccessful lawsuit against the now-defunct Church of the New Civilization, the Scientology splinter group that operated 'The Advanced Abilities Center" in Montecito between 1983 and 1986.

U.S. Special Magistrate. James Kolts - the same retired Superior Court judge who conducted the recent investigation of the LA. Sheriffs Department--urged that the Church of Scientology be ordered to pay the defendants (the principals behind the Advanced Abilities Center) $2.9 mil-lion in attorney's fees. The Scientology lawsuit against the center had been thrown unceremoniously out of court last July, and only in exceptional cases are attorney's fees awarded to the prevailing party. But according to Kolts. this case has been nothing if not exceptional.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Smurf » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:44 am

Dang. Karen's on a roll. I'll have what she's having... if it's non-fattening. :D

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Don Carlo » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:20 am

Karen, thanks for your heartfelt and knowledgable posts.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:23 am

The Sad Story of Marshall Goldblatt

I recall with affection an old and wonderful man called Marshall Goldblatt, often nicknamed "The Godfather" of the "Church," purely out of generosity.

Marshall gave and gave and gave millions upon millions to the Church. He almost could not say NO.

He purchased superfluous things such as LEATHER BOUND LIBRARIES for RUMANIA and RUSSIA and 3rd world countries in Africa who's names I never even heard of...
(who knows if "Bridge Publications" even delivered ?") Follow ups and proof of delivery is never done. No accounting.

Entire courseroom of books for the Flag Serivce Org multiple times for the students.

Translations for the books into languages, countless donations for Way to Happiness, CCHR, ABLE, NARCONON, SUPER Power auditing, SUPER Power Building, IAS, funding for countless "Ideal Orgs," you name it, Marshall coughed up the bucks, mega bucks, $$$$$$$$$$

The problem with Marshall was that he was an electric shock case. This is not private case data, Marshall discussed it openly and often ~~ he had a series of over 50 electric shock treatments and this made him an "ILLEGAL PC." The Church does not want public who have had psychiatric treatment.
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Marshall Goldblatt right side between Terri Gamboa and Janis Grady. Heber Jentzsch on left side.

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Marshall was Mr Gotbucks, $$$ and most rules and regulations are bended when you give Mega bucks to the Church.

He first called me when I worked at OSA INT because he was not being accepted at Flag and called an "Illegal pc" due to the electric shock. He asked if I could "help. These were days in the early 1980s when I was not thinking straight.

My title was Presidential Aide, I was Heber's Assistant and I made a flurry of phone calls to the FSO.

"Did you know, " I said with an authoritative tone that Marshall was the Realtor that acquired the PAC Complex for the Church ? "Big Blue"

Did you know, that he acquired the entire BIG Blue for a mere $3 million in cash, now worth at least 10x that ?

Did you know that Marshall has donated millions, probably the highest roller of all time in terms of sheer generosity ?

Did you know that Marshall has never caused a single problem for any Church ...and has been on lines for several years at Celebrity Center Los Angeles ? "

There was silence the other end of the comm line while FSO personnel calculated the $$$$$$$$$ that could be forthcoming from Marshall. I could almost hear the cash registers clinking as calculations were made.

Marshall was accepted by Flag Service Org and spent the next 25 years on and off Flag went all the way through to OT 7.

Electric shock be dammed !

He was a generous donor.

Marshall never forgot me through the years, he kept in touch.


After the Lisa Mcpherson death, the lines on ILLEGAL Pcs, had pendulum swung to ridiculous criteria. Terrified of another death in Clearwater on one of the Church properties, parishioners are declared "illegal for service" although their monies on account are not refunded. I know that for a fact.

Marshall was older in 2009. (in his 70s) He had body problems, he was on some drugs and once more FSO refused to service him while taking his credit cards for huge sums for the Basics. The "Church" refused to give him support and comfort in his twilight years and when he was sick and needy and needed some kindness.
Just about every Org on the planet sucked money out of him for the Basics. Greg Wilhere and Sandy Wilhere (still Sea Org members) routinely called him to purchase every new set of CDs, books, Basics and for "Libraries in the US and around the world." He paid and paid. he could not say "NO."
Marshall developed some cancer, 3-4 years ago had it removed and in remission, but once FSO heard that, he was told he was no longer ELIGIBLE for Flag.
They did not want a risk of him dying in Clearwater ! Bad PR for the Church !
This is modern Taliban Scientology: "We will relentlessly suck out every last penny from you, but you are on your own to die, we just don't want the BAD PR of it at the Flag Land Base."

Marshall felt more and more rejected and dejected in 2009. 2010 and finally his death in 2011.
FSO had scooped in the millions and refused to let him return once again labelling him as an "Illegal pc."
Over the top of a HUGE ARC break with Flag and his friends dumping him with an "Illegal pc" label, he died in 2011 lonely and abandoned by the Church he had poured his life and finance into for 40 years. He was in close touch with me via Emails in his last 6 months of life. I did the best I could while letting him know in the final weeks that I was a Declared Suppressive Person.

Scientology Inc ~~It's all about the MONEY !
Will that Be Cash ? Visa ? Master Card ? American Express ?


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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by chantal » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:11 am

Hi Karen,

This story broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes. Poor Marshall. Thanks for sharing and keep sharing. This money grubbing cult makes me so mad. They've destroyed enough lives, they need to be stopped.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:04 am

Oh, yeah. The registrars are all over you, buddy buddy lovey lovey the day you bring in money.

Next day you're a piece of shit, and often a degraded one at that.

It sounds like I'm talking in broad generalities and as an SP it's my right to do that but I am only speaking in terms of my own experience here. This happened to me over and over with different registrars from different orgs and in different locations but other people may have had different experiences to mine.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by chuckbeatty » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:57 am

Wow Karen, so sad about Marshall.

This is an incredible thread, and am so glad you've shared so many details here, which I've never heard before.

Just incredible amount of info.

I just spent the last 4 hours reading this thread from the start!

Impressive amount of total details on this "Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside"
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by I'mglib » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:01 am

Thanks for the great post, Karen. Very sad story. It seems like it's a story that is repeated again and again. Someone gives Scientology their all, then gets chewed up and spit out.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:39 pm

All $cientology wants from anyone is everything they have. Once they get that they have no further use for the person. That's the way it is. There are no exceptions.

What about Tom Cruise? Isn't he an exception to that? No. He is being watched and when his career hits the point where he becomes a character actor instead of a movie star he will be downgraded from COB protection to registrar fair game, which is somewhat different from office of special affairs (OSA) fair game but ultimately just as destructive. ("Registrar fair game" is my term for what they do and not part of the $cientology speak.)
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:28 am

Janet Light was the President of IAS administrations gave years of support to Miscavige. She was his golden girl.
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The "International Association of Scientologists" is this renegade non-policy invention of Miscavige designed to rip off, gouge, vulture out $$$$ from hapless Scientologists. This entity has around with $1.5 billion dollars in liquid cash.

Imagine the interest rate on that even at 3%.


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Janet eventually started expressing disagreements with Miscavige’s increasing greed and criminality. This was late 2006. Then Janet voiced disagreements with David Miscavige's violence with staff. This can be a dangerous thing to do. She had been a favorite "pet" of Miscavige while huge sums of $$$ rolled in to Church coffers. Ridiculous claims were made of how dangerous the world had become and how if one did not give money now now now, the world would almost come to an end. The Kool Aid drinkers, the die hard Scientologists fell for it and gave blood money in the multi-millions.

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Janet Light and her husband Colm Mclaughlin were planning to leave the Sea org (Blow). They had had enough. Preparations were being made for flight.....

Miscavige found out about this and decided to teach her a lesson. The Lesson of the torture chamber called "SP Hole". He needed a gang of Sea Org members to carry this plan out. His technique is to use a gang to carry out dark deeds.


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He commenced auditions to find out what "trusted" Sea Org members he could find to pluck Janet Light out of Los Angeles and bring her to the "SP Hole". A large bunch was selected and they were all escorted to "Author Services" Building on Hollywood Boulevard where David Miscagive sat with his lawyer Monique Yingling in there. This Lawyer Monique Yingling is in on the briefing to kidnap Janet Light and hold her against will. 15 Sea Org members pounce on Janet and Colm.

Colm starts screaming "this is illegal, this kidnap ! " fighting it, whereupon he is dragged into a closet and Kurt Weiland, who weighs some 250 lbs sat on him for some hours. Colm is sent to Freewinds where he is imprisoned in a cabin for 18 months. But that is another story.

Janet was separated from her husband Colm and sent to INT base to SP Hole. Janet kept saying "I'm done with this, I am not not going for this" essentially wanted to leave the Sea org but not being permitted to. It was a few hours before she agreed to go back to INT Base. Janet did not know she was going in SP Hole, Janet thought she was going up to INT Base to meet with Miscavige.


A Feeding frenzy occurred when she arrived. The pattern was to scream, hurl insults at a new arrival, ask repeatedly for Crimes, "Crimes against David Miscavige".
Janet Light was made to stand in trash can with a sign
"I am a criminal" with water being thrown over her a la Debbie Cook story.

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It was early 2007 Janet was imprisoned in SP Hole. It was there that she would live, in lock down, unable to escape for the next 4 years.


~~~To be continued

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by peter » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:48 am

Are you upset that Karma have fun with Janet Light in the SP-Hole?
No, she probably has lot to pay for as David Miscavige’s golden girl. Debbie Cook is another pathetic figure who fell from grace when things started to happen to her!

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It is a very easy thing to be a good looking lady when you have a power source of destroyed lives to draw upon!

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It is not fun to be a vulture anymore!

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Don Carlo » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:27 pm

What's Janet and Colm's current situation?

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:27 pm

Everyone actively involved in $cientology, with the possible exception of David Miscavige, is both a perpetrator and a victim. Having been in that position I am not too hasty to wish punishment on anyone, other than David Miscavige, who is in that situation. Even with the higher ups and inner circle participants I would rather they get out and receive some kind of exit therapy.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by I'mglib » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:47 pm

I hope no one wishes the SP hole on anyone. Yes there are people who perpetrated bad things...and I don't wish to see them in the SP hole, or any other similar punishment. We're here to see the end of such things.

I hope both Janet and Colm get out.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by chantal » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:14 pm

I certainly do not wish the "SP Hole" on anyone. As human beings with flaws, weaknesses and vulnerability, we all go through periods of wanting nothing more than a sense of belonging. This is something that usually starts when we become teenagers. Peer pressure is at it's highest. You have the cool crowd, the jocks, the cheerleaders, and the outsiders looking in. Cults prey on vulnerability and are masters at deceiving and giving people what they so badly want--to be understood and to finally belong.I agree with Wieber, the ones still in are both perpetrators and victims. They'll do anything asked of them because they don't want to lose what they believe is real. It doesn't make them bad people, or stupid people for being in a cult--it makes them normal human beings who need help and understanding. DM needs to pay for his crimes, the rest need to know they are understood and cared about.
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