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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:08 am


I wanted to take a quick few minutes to post excerpts of this Email just received.
I am in a firestorm of activity but wanted to get this on line.

(Posted with permission)

1 October 2012

Dear Karen,

First, let me share my condolences. I am truly sorry for the loss of your son. No words will ever be enough to comfort you in this time, but know that despite it all, you are still loved and you are valuable.

I am not declared, but im sure I will be soon enough. Im pressing charges against a scientologist who molested my daughter when I was a staff member. He is still in scientology with his wife and other family on staff, so the church's Dir I&R, (kylie Roe) decided that since I was no longer a scientologist, they would not be interviewing him.

The ED, Ed Dearborn then requested I be comm-ev'd from post for allowing his only introductory auditor to moonlight. The Cope Off at the time, Holland Mattison, then started to gather "evidence" on me to apply ethics gradients to remove me from post. When I caught wind of this, i requested a comm-ev myself to verify and nullify any accusations of my qualifications for HCO.

During the comm-ev, I remained on post and fund raised for the new building. When the recs came back, I was immediately dismissed from staff and given 6 months to handle (which means paid off) my husbands back tax debt, (which is currently being paid and will be for about another 10 years as the DSA OC Marie Murillo, told us that we had to file ALL the back taxes when legally, all we had to do was 3 years back) or be labeled a criminal with absolutely NO criminal background ever. I grabbed my certs, meter and books and RAN!

Last month, when my daughter finally confessed to me that she was molested I wrote a report, as did her father, to the Church of Scientology OC. I am pressing charges against this sex offender and i will name him now... (MARC RENARD)... and I am going to make it known that the church of scientology in orange county is harboring a sex offender (that has done this a few times now, not to just my daughter), and is not alerting the public or officials to keep the staff, the orgs children, public and scientology public informed of this criminal behavior to keep them safe.

In the interim, my oldest son joined and left staff rapidly, he confirmed that all they did was fund raise, Ive sold my meter, threw all my books away (cause I was told they were not valid), scrapped my "clear bracelet".
<smip> <smip>

Maggie M

This habit of the "Church' covering up sex offenders and molesters is despicable and has to stop. Alexander Jentzsch was having sex at 12 years old in Clearwater...all covered up and right now, in 2012, it sounds like they are still covering it up....
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Here's the rah rah of the OC "Orange Country" "Ideal Org" purchased by the rip off and scamming and vulture extortion of funds of the locals in order to provide Miscavige with a "photo op" of a ribbon cutting ceremony, While inside molestation and dirty deeds are covered up. Covering up internal crimes are par for the course of Scientology Inc while it efforts to improve it's "PR Image."

"Public Relations"image indeed !

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:57 pm

Reads like Maggie M is out, or at least away and one way or another free.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by subgenius » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:42 pm

Here's hoping the writer alerts the media.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Smurf » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:19 pm

[quote="Karen#1"] I wanted to take a quick few minutes to post excerpts of this Email just received.
I am in a firestorm of activity but wanted to get this on line.


[quote]1 October 2012

Dear Karen,

First, let me share my condolences. I am truly sorry for the loss of your son. No words will ever be enough to comfort you in this time, but know that despite it all, you are still loved and you are valuable.

I am not declared, but im sure I will be soon enough. Im pressing charges against a scientologist who molested my daughter when I was a staff member. He is still in scientology with his wife and other family on staff, so the church's Dir I&R, (kylie Roe) decided that since I was no longer a scientologist, they would not be interviewing him.


The ED, Ed Dearborn then requested I be comm-ev'd from post for allowing his only introductory auditor to moonlight. The Cope Off at the time, Holland Mattison, then started to gather "evidence" on me to apply ethics gradients to remove me from post. When I caught wind of this, i requested a comm-ev myself to verify and nullify any accusations of my qualifications for HCO.

During the comm-ev, I remained on post and fund raised for the new building. When the recs came back, I was immediately dismissed from staff and given 6 months to handle (which means paid off) my husbands back tax debt, (which is currently being paid and will be for about another 10 years as the DSA OC Marie Murillo, told us that we had to file ALL the back taxes when legally, all we had to do was 3 years back) or be labeled a criminal with absolutely NO criminal background ever. I grabbed my certs, meter and books and RAN!

Last month, when my daughter finally confessed to me that she was molested I wrote a report, as did her father, to the Church of Scientology OC. I am pressing charges against this sex offender and i will name him now... (MARC RENARD)... and I am going to make it known that the church of scientology in orange county is harboring a sex offender (that has done this a few times now, not to just my daughter), and is not alerting the public or officials to keep the staff, the orgs children, public and scientology public informed of this criminal behavior to keep them safe.

In the interim, my oldest son joined and left staff rapidly, he confirmed that all they did was fund raise, Ive sold my meter, threw all my books away (cause I was told they were not valid), scrapped my "clear bracelet".
<smip> <smip>
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Demented LRH » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:04 am

I hope that the pedophile will be brought to justice.

A person named Marc Renard has a FB page, he is an owner of a construction company. He did not list himself as a Scientologist, but his page has a link to official Scientology website.

I do not know if this is the person Maggie wrote about.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by chantal » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:50 am

Demented LRH wrote:I hope that the pedophile will be brought to justice.

A person named Marc Renard has a FB page, he is an owner of a construction company. He did not list himself as a Scientologist, but his page has a link to official Scientology website.

I do not know if this is the person Maggie wrote about.

http://www.facebook.com/renardm
I hope he's brought to justice too, along with the ones helping to cover this up. Kudos to Maggie for speaking up and exposing this vile creature. It takes a lot of courage to expose this cult of abuse. Thank you Karen for bringing it to our attention.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Smurf » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:00 am

The person alleged to have molested Maggie's daughter is Marc William Renard, a resident of Tustin, CA. (he is not associated with the Marc Renard listed in Michigan).

https://www.facebook.com/renardm

He's a real winner. 6 traffic convictions in the last decade and one pending (filed on 8/27/12) for driving without insurance. He was sued is Small Claims court this year by a music company (A Fred Gillett Music) for $1500 & lost on default - Renard didn't bother to answer the complaint or appear in court. Likewise, in 2008.. he lost a small claims case -he didn't bother to respond to that one either. (Kevin's Jewelers/Sabie Acceptance, Inc. vs. Marc William Renard).

Marc W. Renard is not to be confused with Marc D. Renard, of Cushman & Wakeman, who is a defendant in a legal matter, which he & two other defendants lost their case. They are appealing. Marc D. Renard has never been associated with Scientology.

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xm ... -2007-CURR

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Maggie M. posted a comment on the Orange County Weekly article on Paulien Lombard.

majjiemoyer posted: (September 26, 2012)

"WTG Paulien! Now that I am in agreement, im SURE I will be "watched", probably declared but in reality... its just a piece of paper! Paulien is one of the sweetest kindest people I know. Her children were the same. Very sweet family, loving, caring, and helped their church anyway they could. Just like Luis Garcia who donated 1.3 million dollars for the building the church cannot afford, spotted outpoints and wrote them up as LRH stated to do in HCO PL "KNOWLEDGE REPORTS" and he gets declared as his reports were on David Mascavige.

I have my own story, its not yet known, but im sure it will be soon. I await my beautiful piece of golden rod! I even have a frame picked out for it! ;)"

http://www.ocweekly.com/2012-02-23/news ... n-lombard/

156. Maggie Moyer- left after 14 years, Staff Member OC Org , Dir I&R, fully hatted for each post held, Flag trained in GAT as Word Clearer.

https://sites.google.com/site/biglistth ... entology/m

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/st ... moyer.html

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:10 am

Another 24 year old scientolgist, 2nd generation, born and bred in the cult. Dead. Killed himself.

3 months ago to the day Alexander Jentzsch, 2nd generation Scientologist with an enforced disconnection from me was found dead of pneumonia and methadone.
He had no father to speak of and a disconnected mom. The world of Scientology heard about it.

Then only weeks later Johnny Lewis, the son of die hard Scientolgists Michael and Divonna Lewis goes on a rampage and kills an 81 year old and cat.

Now another 24 year old kills himself at 24. A promising senior, the Dean said he would likely be Valedictorian of his class kills himself.

He was in the Sea Org. Left in a matter of months. Never wanted to speak of Scientology ever again. He never told a soul what went on in the Sea Org but was clearly traumatized. Distanced himself from the CULT

These are 3 kids in their 20s dead of parents who supposedly were enlightened and enhanced spiritual beings from years and years ~~ a lifetime in the GOLDEN AGE of TECH !

From: Nancy McKenna <nmckenna322@XXXXXXX>

Subject: Memorial Service

Date: September 22, 2012 4:17:45 PM PDT

Memorial Service for Mark McKenna

(1988 - 2012)
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Saturday, September 29th at the Tustin Banquet Center, 721 West First Street, Tustin, CA 92780.

Doors open at 12:30.

Service starts promptly at 1:00.

Feel free to share this with anyone who might have known Mark or who might like to attend.

NO FLOWERS, PLEASE.

For those who want to give something, we've set up a memorial scholarship fund at his school:

DigiPen Foundation for Education

Attn: Raymond Yan

9931 Willows Road

Redmond, WA 98052

Note that it's for the Mark McKenna memorial scholarship

No representative of the Church showed up.
But the Dean of his University flew down from Washington and did.
1/2 the people attending were Declared Sps !
1/2 the people attending were die hard Scientolgists
and how they squirmed with discomfort, being in such close proximity with SPs.
Oh My
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RIP Mark Mckenna ~~ FLY HIGH

Karen de la Carriere
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Smurf » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:08 am

This so profoundly sad, Karen. The kid was smart as a whip & had everything going for him. Hopefully, we'll find out why the poor kid took his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... p3KrcaeM2w

http://markdavidmckenna.com/resume.pdf

http://markdavidmckenna.com/index.html

Mark was Lead Programmer for this project...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... onYqw8atLw

http://www.aflippinggoodtime.com/about_team.shtml

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:35 am

PLEASE LAUGH WITH ME...

Someone on another thread mentioned Suppressive Person levels 1, 2, 3 etc. and I wanted to be flippant and cover once again the TYPES of SP "Suppressive Person" because it is good for a laugh.

We can all use a laugh now and again.

In the never - never land of the "Church" of Scientology the Word "SP" has taken on "a whole new meaning"
and whole new sub-divisions.

This has slowly occurred over the last 2 decades. There is no textbook policy on any of this it is just "made up" by the Church as Time Marches on.....LOL.

FLIP-FLOP SPs. These are Suppressive persons, who the Church want back in the Church. Highly Embarrassed that their Top echelon RTC ("Religious Technology Center") staff members have fled to join Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder, the Church sent out "Missions" to recover them. Namely Hansuili Stahli, Marion Pouw and Mike Sutter. Now, for anyone who renounces Marty and Mike ~~ BAM they can be UNDECLARED and in a matter of hours a Suppressive person can become an UN-SUPPRESSIVE PERSON. ROFL !

TAME SPs. These are people who have been declared SP, run to do their A to E steps and even give the CHURCH Money $$$$ to get back in good standing !

They even do spying for OSA as "amends" They do not talk to Bitter Defrocked Apostates, or other SPs, they keep their nose clean and pray on bended knee that they will get their eligibility to become advanced Spiritual Beings !

INT BASE SPs
. As far back as the issued of "Blown for a Good" Marc Headley a few years ago revealed how most of Senior Management at INT Base had been declared SPs. They cannot leave the base. Most of them cannot leave SP hole, they are doing massive "Amends" programs for their wicked evil deeds against David Miscavige! Even though they are "SPs", they may not communicate with other SPs.

BOARDERLINE SPs A Boarderline Sp is one who is REFUSING to give new money to the Church, refusing to buy more books, Cds, refusing to attend more INT events and IAS events. They sometimes furtively read the Internet and read all these stories and do not confess and sometimes furtively pick up the phone and call someone like me. This is Boarderline SP !

VERBAL SPs These SPs are so confidential that it is a secretly disclosed at the Ethics Office, sometimes, nothing is shown in writing. The
Ethics officer" says "so and so is an SP," "so and so has gone over to the dark side" "so and so has been in touch with squirrels and apostates" "so and so is disaffected and reading the internet" 'so and so is refusing to un-friend these ex-scientologists on Facebook" so now they are verbally declared "SP."

OVERNIGHT SP I made this up and it caught on fast when I posted it.... After serving in the Church for decades, yes, with slave labor, almost no pay, no day off, and enduring all the punishments etc. the Church who apparently with all their advanced spiritual qualities , could not even *DETECT* an SP,
SUDDENLY
*OVERNIGHT*
determines that someone who was in the flock for the previous 25-50 years was a Suppressive Person all along !!!!!!

Rolling on the Floor Laughing.
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~~~to be continued.

Part 2 of this coming up.

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Post by Karen#1 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:58 am

DEFINITIONS OF SUPPRESSIVE PERSON ~~ Part 2.

Requirements. YOU MUST LAUGH WITH ME. :D :D :D :D :D :D

The declare of "Suppressive Person" has been nothing but a "TOOL" ~~ a political tool to label a disaffected person or a whistle blower so as to separate connection between 2 people so that the wisened up person is unable to reveal to the dupe what is really going on.
It is meaningless as a label, but it does keep a certain amount of Kool-aid drinkers toeing the line.

A huge number of people watched the Alexander Jentzsch enforced disconnection from me and saw to what lengths the "Church" would go to separate a mother and son...even in death, denying a last look before cremation.

This is "Church" performance against a so-called "Suppressive Person" SP.

Let's Continue.

GOOD SP Good SPs keep it all "under the radar". They are not doing the A to E steps, but they are not speaking out either. If they post on the Boards, they do it anonymously. Overall, they do not make waves, do not talk to the media, and are nice and sweet. No combativeness on the Church, they do not ask for refunds even of unused pre-paid "donations."

BAD SP These are troublemakers ! They post on the boards and blogs overtly using their own names....They talk to media. They reveal the abuses and atrocities. They influence others. They get deluged with Emails from those "on the fence' and "under the radar". They are a continuous headache for the "good repute" of Scientology Inc.

PROVISIONAL SPS This is a relatively new invention of Radical Scientology Inc. It means You are already a Suppressive person, but it will not be broadcast if you toe the line and abide by the behaviour modification. And if you dare not be "good" voila ! the declaration of your Suppressive Person status will become more widespread. So you see, it is not a matter of whether you are, or not a suppressive person, it is merely a political tool, and the degree of broadcast of your SP declare is used as a threat to keep you in line !

NEGOTIABLE SP This is a marketable commodity based on money. Does money $$$$ make you a Suppressive person or a non-suppressive person ? For Years and Years at "Int events" the flock were told how bad, evil, predatory the IRS was. The IRS was the devil incarnate. No one screamed the "Church" had sunk to depths of SPness as the IRS !
So how did the IRS flip from being a Deep SP to a good *FRIENDLY* agency ?

$$$$$$$$ Baby, $$$$$$ Show me the money !!!
501C3 Tax exemption makes a deep SP enemy Government Agency NO LONGER an SP. Overnight. Just like that !

Does Money $$$$$ make you SP or not SP ????

a LARGE BIG BIG DONATION CAN UN-SP you in a New York Minute ! Giving a bunch of loot to the coffers means you were :::ahem:::not SP after all ! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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There was a time when SPs were mostly EXTERNAL. Out there. Psychiatry, Psychology, The World Bankers, the Rockerfellers, the Freemasons, the Vatican, the media, the press, CBS, 60 minutes, ABC TV, NBC TV, the FBI, the IRS, the AMA, the Governments of the world, especially Germany, Eli Lilli and all the pharmaceutical companies, journalists and authors that wrote books and articles on Scientology, Intelligence agencies of the world, and on and on.
But DM’s Cult in recent decades has indeed turned inward.

The new breed of SPs are Long term ex staff members, Sea Org members, Veterans. Especially those who have served decades.
Especially those who have worked for peanuts with SLEEP DEPRIVATION and hard labor.
Especially those who have been punched, beaten and assaulted by Miscavige.

Only a year and a half ago ago Miscavige told John Brousseau (escapee) how GOLD staff up there were a bunch of worthless criminals not worthy of the food they were given or the bed they had to lie on.

True story.

Ahhhhhhh the World of the “Church” of Scientology. Truth is stranger than fiction.
You can’t make this stuff up. :P :P :P :P :P

Acknowledgement to my dear Friend Jeff Hawkins who originally toyed with
the various Types of SP and had me laughing out loud as we talked on the phone of the various
Suppressive Person definitions...
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:05 am

May I suggest a few more categories.

Undelivered Goldenrod SP
That's a declared SP who has not received their goldenrod declare order.

Unposted Goldenrod SP
A declared SP who has not had their goldenrod declare order posted on any org bulletin board.

Delivered Goldenrod SP
A declared SP to whom their goldenrod declare order has been delivered.

Posted Goldenrod SP
A declared SP who has had their goldenrod declare order posted on an org bulletin board.

Non Goldenrod SP
A declared SP for whom a goldenrod declare order has not been issued.

You can mix and match. For example: Delivered Posted Goldenrod Bad SP (DPGBSP)
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by chantal » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:50 am

Karen & Wieber,

What kind of SPs are those of us who've never been in the "church" but are critics who help expose them as well?
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by peter » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:06 am

Soderqvist1: When I am reading Karen De La Carriere description of David Miscavige as his fingerprints is all over it; “A huge number of people watched the Alexander Jentzsch enforced disconnection from me and saw to what lengths the "Church" would go to separate a mother and son...even in death, denying a last look before cremation.”! The BBC Article comes naturally to my mind! Because the BBC News is asking the world is Professor Robert D Hare describing your boss? Should we be running for the hills? He is describing an interspecies predator that kills or kisses without a flinch, who knows the words, but not the music, who act without guilt or remorse, and when it comes to conscience he hasn’t the faintest clue, so he is destroying life everywhere without care! So I am asking Karen is Hare describing your ex-boss David Miscavige?

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The psychopaths in suits By Joanna Hill-Tout BBC News Online
The word psychopath strikes fear into the hearts of most ordinary individuals conjuring up images of axe-wielding mass murderers or sexual predators stalking the wards of prison isolation wings. But that is far from the whole truth and one of the world's experts on psychopaths arrived in Cardiff on Tuesday with some disturbing news. In a talk entitled Snakes in suits: when psychopaths go to work, Professor Robert Hare from Canada argued that psychopaths may not be what we think they are.

And as BBC News Online found out, they can exist successfully in every walk of life. "I'm not worried about security - if they were going to get me they would have got me by now."
These were the words of the world's leading authority on psychopathy before he gave a talk in front of a packed out lecture theatre at Cardiff University. Robert Hare, who is a Professor of Psychology at the University of British Columbia in Canada, has spent most of his working life studying psychopaths - a dangerous occupation, it seems. "The first one I met at a maximum security prison in Canada stared at me so hard I felt like I was being pushed up against the wall," he said. "Then he got a knife out and was moving it around in front of me. "I didn't know what I was getting myself into." And he has been "into it" for the past 25 years. You can spot them quite easily in the workplace - so you may want to think about people you know Professor Robert Hare But you would never guess this diminutive, unassuming man has been in contact with real life Hannibal Lecters.

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Hannibal Lecter, M.D., is a fictional character in a series of horror novels by Thomas Harris and in the films adapted from them. Lecter was introduced in the 1981 thriller novel Red Dragon as a brilliant psychiatrist and cannibalistic serial killer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanibal_Lecter

"They get interested in me - and blame me that they're in prison," he said. "I've had death threats as a result but I keep going - what can you do?" So was Professor Hare in Cardiff to warn us about the proliferation of psychopaths in Welsh prisons? No, but they could be in your office right now.Psychopaths are defined as a person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behaviour without empathy or remorse.

Is your boss a psychopath? Here are just some of the tell tale signs
They are manipulative
They lack specific goals
They have superficial relations with people
They are impulsive
They are irresponsible
They crave power and prestige
They lack empathy
They lack remorse
They lie easily
They have predatory instincts
They are cool under pressure
They seek excitement and thrills
They take credit for the work of others
They fly into rages

And Professor Hare, along with colleague Dr Paul Babiak, has developed a new 107-point questionnaire - the B-Scan - which can enable people like you and me to identify which desks those smooth-talking, manipulative colleagues might be hiding behind.

"We normally associate psychopaths with death but they're not always in prison," he said.
"We think of them as crazy people but Ian Brady described himself in his book as a businessman.
"You can spot them quite easily in the workplace - so you may want to think about people you know."

Former Daily Mirror tycoon Robert Maxwell, who stole £400m from pension funds to help his ailing companies, was named as a classic example of a man in a powerful position who might very well have displayed psychopathic traits.
So what should we be looking out for? Professor Robert Hare has received death threats According to Professor Hare psychopaths are impulsive - they lack empathy and remorse. They crave power and prestige, and are extremely controlling. He described them as "knowing the words but not the music."
"They can learn to use ordinary words and to reproduce the pantomime of feeling but the feeling itself does not come to pass."

So is he describing your boss?
They interview well, they get into organisations by using people as pawns, sweet talking patrons and creating conflict. "I don't see any difference between the people I meet in prison and those in business," he added.

Practice Makes Perfect
Hare consulted with Nicole Kidman on the movie Malice. She wanted to let thew audience know, early in the film, that she was not the sweet, warm person she appeared to be. He gave her the following scene: "You're walking down the street and come across an accident at the corner. A young child has been struck by a car and is lying in a pool of blood. You walk up to the accident site, look briefly at the child, and then focus at the grief-stricken mother. After a few minutes of careful scrutiny, you walk back to your apartment, go into the bathroom, stand in front of the mirror, and practice mimicking the facial expressions and body language of the mother."

So should we be running for the hills?

You have been warned.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:12 am

chantal wrote:Karen & Wieber,

What kind of SPs are those of us who've never been in the "church" but are critics who help expose them as well?


Good question Chantal.


Critics that expose the "Church" on the web are

INTERNET SPs.
I even heard the "Church" use the term INTERNET PSYCHOS believe it or not. Internet SPs are those that know nothing about the "Church" and are just (from Church viewpoint) hatemongers who attack good forces, good religions because they have nothing better to do. (Church Definition)

Also there is

AMBUSHED SPs. A good friend of mine was at a Home Owners Association and because her condo was in a building of Scientologists, the local DSA (OSA rep pounced) and distributed her SP declare to the entire Home Owner's Association members so everybody got a copy of the SP declare at once ! She had been in the church 20+ years ! Her SP declare was planned. Another recent exit of the Church was a girl who flip flopped back and forth and thought OSA was befriending her. She thought of going back into the Church. While OSA got all the intelligence they wanted out of her, they then handed her a declare !

DEGRADED BEING SPs These are "squirrels". They are doing Scientology outside the Church ! The Church is not getting a cut of the revenue $$$$ and the Church is incensed claiming trademark as if they were Coca Cola !
Literally wanting the world to believe you can trademark BELIEFS. The "squirrel" supposedly alters the original text but the real anger is the loss of revenue the "Church" feels its entitled to....


WIMPY SP
A Wimpy SP is a jellyfish. From the Sea Org viewpoint, has no SPINE.
Too fainthearterd for the RPF and RPF's RPF gulags, disconnection, the sadism, the beatings, the sleep deprivation, the physical and mental abuse, the WIMPY SP asks to leave the Sea Org, thus causing all HELL to Break LOOSE. In a culture where you are 100% in or 100% out, by asking to depart the most elite ethical beings on the planet, you are 100% OUT ~~which to the remainder of the flock means the departee has ENEMY thoughts, ENEMY plans, possible sedition, possible infiltration, perhaps even wilfully speaking about wanting to leave which is in any case an automatic SP declare.

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