DLRH, yeah, this isn't a criminal procedure. Judging by the questions asked by Debbie Cook's lawyers, they are looking to show that DM was in charge, and that is was ultimately he who kept her and her husband basically captive and under extreme pressure to sign the NDAs.

Also, apparently Marty and Mike were at the last proceding and were ready to testify on her behalf. I would imagine more would speak up, since others, like Amy Scobee etc have already spoken up to the media.

As I have said before, I can't imagine this civil case will proceed to the point that people like Marty and Mike will testify. Just pure speculation on my part.

If you want a full and detailed newsmedia timline to refer to then there are two threads in the Media Reports section.

The first one is when the whole Debbie Cook story broke at the start of the year up until the lawsuit....
Scientology Rocked By Allegations of Greed in E-mail to 12,000 Church Members: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=47674

The second on carries on from the start of the lawsuit, from Jan 31st, to present time....
Scientology sues Debbie Cook for breaking gag agreement: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=52452

Regarding the last paragraph of your post -- this morning I saw a thread at ESMB saying that Debbie's lawyer is asking people with the experiences similar to the one of Debbie to help her with written depositions. I do not remember the thread's title, although remember that it was started by MImsey Borgove.

The sad part of all this is that Debbie, Marty & Mike are playing the system & trying to rewrite history. It is clear that Debbie remains "brainwashed" and as guilty of Scientology crimes, as her friends Marty & Mike. The exchange between Skip Press, an ex-Scilon, and another critics said it best in today's Village Voice article..


Skip: She escaped going to an extermination camp as a child. How fitting that she fought so well against the evil of $cientology. I escaped a prison camp of $cientology in 1977 and thought it took me a while after that to permanently escape the horror that wanted to exterminate my soul, I'll live to see it destroyed, just as Paulette Cooper saw the Nazis exterminated.

INOX: Skip, it amazes me how the likes of Rathbun and the Indies think that nothing bad ever happened pre-COB Miscavige. Hubbard created the gulag called The Project Rehabilitation Force to keep his minions in check. He is the creator of all this madness and Miscavige is his best pupil.

We are all witnesses the Cult of Scientology at it's last death throws. Those who have left the organization and it's destructive belief system are the lucky ones. The ones left behind who refuse to see the truth deserve to burn with Miscavige and his cult.


Skip: I understand their stance because they're trying to keep their own PR up. Far as I can tell, they're trying to continue making a living off the crap of $cientology. So they have to blame it all on "current management" (Miscavige). That's how it used to be when I was on staff at Celebrity Centre - someone would get hung in a kangaroo court looking for the "Suppressive Person" at the root of the trouble (happened to me once), and then that person would be used to explain things away to the public.

"Come on back, we got rid of the bad bad person!" Also, Hubbard was good at putting on a happy face so lots of folks have "fond memories." Yvonne Jentzsch's two daughters, who worked closely with him on the Apollo, won't say a word because they're still scared. There are many more like that. They all live by the banks of the same river, Denial. It's a river of fire straight out of hell and it will indeed burn their souls. Maybe they'd better wake up before it's too late.

INOX: Rinder is one of those in deep Denial. In a German interview he was asked about Hubbard taking drugs and his behavior. He denied ever seeing Hubbard taking drugs and said that he had a 'temper' but no way near Miscavige's level. The the blood-work on Hubbard's autopsy showed high levels of the psychiatric drug, Vistaril. This is a matter of public record. How does Rinder or Rathbun rationalize this away? Surely, they must have read this. Do they think it's just 'black PR' or is it just cognitive dissonance at work here?


Skip: Here's the truth. Most of the broad public doesn't give a green goddamn about $cientology one way or another. People on the right who are uninformed will say "religious freedom" (they buy that it's a religion). People on the left won't care if it sounds kooky - they love kooky. That's why I say probably a few people will have to die, or some young kid will have to die on the RPF or something and it gets picked up in a major media place like Los Angeles.

And it will take a federal government that will come storming in the way Clinton did with Elian Gonzales and Waco, or Reagan did with Grenada (young American lives were in danger, remember?). AND it will take everyone who was victimized in the past, like some of the people I know who won't speak out, or got paid off to not speak out, who make me want to puke with their silence, SPEAKING UP!

Media Reports update:
Village Voice: Scientology, Deposed? Debbie Cook Goes on the Offensive
viewtopic.php?p=438714#p438714

Hubbard told people involved in $cientology that the majority of people in the world not involved in $cientology love $cientology. Hubbard told people involved in $cientology to use $cientology policy on people of the world not involved in $cientology. I did that one time. I didn't feel good about it up front but Hubbard said to do it and I wasn't allowed to question. I applied some $cientology ethics and justice to a person working the world outside $cientology. I got my ass handed to me.

In the court proceedings involving Debbie Cook, the $cientology lawyers and personnel involved have assumed that they can use their "ethics presence" backed up by "command intention" on the people who aren't $cientologists and that they will get immediate "compliance." People who are involved in $cientology inside $cientology don't really know how the "tech" actually works and what it really does. If they did they would understand that in order for "ethics presence" backed by "command intention" to work and get "compliance" the object of their intent has to have been indoctrinated sufficiently to respond according to Hubbard's prediction.

I have a resource list that those involved in $cientology may access. Reading, viewing and listening to the resources on that list will give a person involved in $cientology a very good inkling as to how Hubbard's fantastic "tech" actually works, what it actually does and what it actually achieves. Here's the link:
http://www.worldcat.org./profiles/Wieber/lists/563909
"The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off."
Gloria Steinem

Goody goody gum drops! Take a gander at the gazillion questions the Church will answer in court *this coming Monday*! Oh my goodness I'm dizzy! Regardless of what is said, it will be more than us having a field day with it on Tuesday! What we all want to know: What will they say? And who will say it?

I posted this to a WWP thread on the upcoming depositions:



I smell a play for the throne in progress.

It stands to reason Its one group trying to "out Scientology" the other....
both groups trying postulate each other into submission with their super powers
stand back and enjoy the fireworks...

Davey may well have to start looking over his shoulder for his "Brutus" in this palace coup..

I envision Medusa on a bad hair day.

For me $cientology's initiating a law suit against Debbie Cook is analogous to the release of a hundred European starlings in Central Park in New York City in 1890 and 1891.

Even if $cientology were to withdraw their lawsuit against Debbie, she has become aggressive toward them. Will she relent if they do? If she does that leaves the sword dangling over her head and I think she won't like that.

Who knows what will happen? All I can do is speculate.

^^They released the birds again in New York City couple of years ago, this time hawks -- the pigeon population grew too large. Now I see dead doves everywhere -- this is a powerful metaphor of what is happening to CoS these days.

Media Reports updates: viewtopic.php?p=438981#p438981

Cult attorneys asked the court to delay the production of documents until their motion on summary judgment has been adjudicated. And if the motion is not granted, to delay the deposition and limit it in scope.
...and.... wait for it..... That Rathbun and Rinder be excluded from the deposition.


Plus there's a segment on Debbie Cook from Monday's KFI Bill Handel morning show.

I have also heard that they are asking everyone who attends court wear their underwear on the outside of their pant, a chocolate cake on their heads and sing (We Stand Tall). They are also demanding the all important legal strategy of bringing a midget in a circus clown outfit (NO NOT DM) to court and I expect before it is all over they will attempt to demand that they be allowed to wear their meat helmets to block out the Entheta.

Yes my friends we are seeing the most brilliant minds on Teegeeack at work here. No doubt they think they can make some case law that will lead all mankind up Ron's bridge and to the OT levels !!!