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 Post subject: Re: WhyWeProtest distraction Jan 2012
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:52 am 
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Demented LRH wrote:
The WWP board is split regarding the Smurf issue -- some support him (I fall into this category) the others sided with Sue. The OSMB board was recently split regarding the Karen issue. These things happen to anti-Scientology groups, it would be naive to expect unanimosity of opinion.
I agree. We all have our own perceptions and ways of doing things that we consider appropriate; people can accept it or disagree with it. Unfortunately, when you're on a moderated board, you have to abide by the rules of the board.

Sue has her perceptions; I have mine. On WWP, I was constantly encouraged to dox (how many times did you see the comments "dox or STFU"? I was encouraged, supported & applauded for being a resource on dox, and recieved alot of pm's from anons asking me identify photos of Scilons & doxing them. Next, thing I know, I'm banned from WWP for doxing, and some of the anons that encouraged me to dox, are now throwing me under the bus & flinging insults & aspersions because I did so, for the entertainment value of it or they want to get on Sue's good side. I'm happy to be away from the babbling gabfest.

I hope that the anons on WWP will soon grow tired of trashing me & go back to focusing on what is important & what the the mission of WWP is.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:36 am 
The last anon,s in Clearwater ran the rest of the crew away. Them two women have ego,s the size of Texas among other things!


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:37 am 
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I PMed you giving you exactly the information you needed and you proceeded to post that publicly as opposed to forwarding it to law enforcement as you had said you would. You were not given that information so you could use it as part of you "omfg WWP hates me" campaign.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:00 am 
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sixtwelve wrote:
I PMed you giving you exactly the information you needed and you proceeded to post that publicly as opposed to forwarding it to law enforcement as you had said you would.
And, how do you know I have not used the information? You sent me a nasty & inappropriate pm full of profanity & venom, then posted my personal pm's to you on the "Smurf Banned" thread, so you could add fuel to the fire.

It must make you feel all warm inside participating in personal attacks on a thread where the target has been prevented the means to respond. And, FYI, this is about a 12-year old boy abandoned to the Sea Org by his mother. The focus is on him and other children whose welfare is at stake, and NOT about "who get's credit" for reporting the matter.

And, being open & transparent with dox does not render an investigation moot as Anonamom concluded & bawwed about on WWP. It actually inspires others reading it to get involved. I have received positive emails from people asking me how they can help.

Police investigators could care less what's being said or posted by others on the Internet. And it is your own behavior that has Clearwater authorities scratching their heads. Contrary to the delusion that the Clearwater Police has a good relationship with anons there, well, you keep on thinking that.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:14 am 
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You confirmed publicly that we knew where the kid was, giving Flag plenty of opportunity to do the exact same thing they did with (name removed for privacy! Be consistent!) and hide him away. If they had not known we had found him, we would have caught them by surprise.

You compromised the mission in order to play hero.

As for our "relationship" with the CPD, that's hysterical, and not the least of which because you have no idea why.


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 Post subject: Re: WWP admins ban a whole city!
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Hertzlichen Wilkommen, Krautfag. Ich habe 5 Jahre in Deutschland gewohnt, und ich spreche (schlechtes) Deutsch. Ich esse Schmaltz, Spiessbraten, und graues Brot gern. Auch mag ich Altbier.
Gray bread? What is that?


Brown bread.

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... brot-1.jpg


Oh, and Hallo Du@glibby


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:37 pm 
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The person at fault here for alerting Sea Org/OSA/cadets is whoever first posted Jet's mother's facebook page on whyweprotest. That person was not Smurf, who rather than spread that page further, went to the authorites. Once that story got out, the Cadet Orgs in Florida and California likely both got alerted. Private conversations among Clearwater undercover helpers might have gotten leaked to Sea Org. There is no way to say pathway X would have worked perfectly, and pathway Y must fail. If Jet is fully indoctrinated and so is his mother, the most perfect "undercover" plan would fail since he could choose to stay home until the dust settles, then quietly go to the Cadets in Los Angeles. On the other hand, the open plan might work since Jet may become too controversial, at age 12, to be Commanding Officer. At least he might get more school and less work out of this scandal. At best they might send him home fearing the risk of a professional social worker questioning him.
The issue also is, how can people help Jet now that the situation is open? It would be wrong to give up on Jet since IT WAS DONE WRONG and one's instinct is to vent and bring up old battles. I'm hoping that, instead, private messages are happening including useful info and background, and people are alert to clues and unusual activity.
And, please, don't repeat private message info given to you, without permission.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:46 pm 
sixtwelve wrote:
As for our "relationship" with the CPD, that's hysterical, and not the least of which because you have no idea why.
You are soooo wrong on that point dear!


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Gumbythetruth wrote:
sixtwelve wrote:
As for our "relationship" with the CPD, that's hysterical, and not the least of which because you have no idea why.
You are soooo wrong on that point dear!

:) Oh, you really, really don't.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:39 pm 
22 pages of fail currently on the smurf banning. Christ on a bike its a slooooowwww day in critic land! :crazy:


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:45 pm 
sixtwelve wrote:
Gumbythetruth wrote:
sixtwelve wrote:
As for our "relationship" with the CPD, that's hysterical, and not the least of which because you have no idea why.
You are soooo wrong on that point dear!

:) Oh, you really, really don't.
Its your night to do the dish,s (name deleted - stoppit!) Shame on u. U killz dee lulz :proud:


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:06 pm 
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sixtwelve wrote:
You confirmed publicly that we knew where the kid was, giving Flag plenty of opportunity to do the exact same thing they did with (name removed for privacy! Be consistent!) and hide him away.
Whatever. Continue to prosper & be happy in your delusional world. I have more important things to do. Have a nice day.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:13 pm 
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sixtwelve wrote:
Oh, you really, really don't.
Oh, I really, really do know. But, we can disagree on this. Moving on.


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 Post subject: Re: WhyWeProtest distraction Jan 2012
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:18 pm 
This is just plain deplorable. The hatchet job currently directed @ smurf and others over on WWP is a mirror image of what scientology does to its most outspoken critic,s. This is a total embarrasment to the critic community. To see people I admire (Jeff Jacobsen) chiming in just plain saddens me. I feel many that are involved in this very low brow hate mongering would if given half a chance do it to anyone or any organization.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother turns 12-year old son over to the Sea Org
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:27 pm 
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sixtwelve wrote:
I PMed you giving you exactly the information you needed and you proceeded to post that publicly as opposed to forwarding it to law enforcement as you had said you would. You were not given that information so you could use it as part of you "omfg WWP hates me" campaign.

Apparently you are completely unfamiliar with the laws. Even if Smurf reports to the police about the boy, they cannot take any action because Smurf is not related to him. It is the mother who has to report to the authorities that her teenage son had been unlawfully detained by CoS-- after all, it was her decision to place him in Sea Org . You should familiarize yourself with the laws before jumping to conclusion.

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