Excellent work, Don Carlo--and Atheist for starting the thread. I love that, on a comic book! Actually someone showed me an even earlier referrence to the OT 3 info. I'll have to contact him and get it. Amazing how Hubbard ripped things off.

Atheist...this is my opinion only (so do check legally) but I'm pretty sure you're safe when it comes to satire. A women we knew (I found out after leaving) did Stand up comedy for years..joking about C of S. Part of her act was holding up a gigantic CHECK of $$$ she finally got back from C of S. They never touched her.

All the best

Tory/Magoo~in the light~

Yes, satire is very-protected free speech.

Lots and lots of US Supreme Court cases, including for ones that were really just thinnly-veiled slander with scummy defendants (e.g., Larry Flint/Hustler).

So here you'd (in all probability) ultimately be legally fine.

Of course, they would still sue you. All that takes is a lawyer and a $150 filing fee.

PS: Jason.....I was NOT "Drunk"! In fact, I rarely, if ever, had a drink at all when I was in C of S.

Mostly because if you're getting auditing, one really cannot drink (My OT 8, Class 8 friend figured out how, but I wasn't really interested).
Also, for 7 years I was on OT 7 and had to audit daily, and it just became a habit not too. Also, I'm just not a big drinker.

I ~was~ acting like I was English as the guy with me was, and OSA just said, "Go Talk with Mark to distract him"...so I jumped in and no doubt sound goofy.

One other piece of info: During that same filming I think that was around the first time Mark began filming at one of their events, and OSA was truly FREAKED OUT. I remember one "OT" came up to me and said, "We're going to slam a magnet on his camera and it will erase all of his film".

That stuck with me. You're going to erase his film? What kind of religion is this?

It was the beginning of a long, interesting road OUT.

Tory/Magoo~in the light!

Level1 I would doubt that there will be an all in one article with all of the different parts of the OT levels.
LRH took from alot of different places.
Tory that would be interesting to see.

Atheist,

I meant different articles or columns within one Sunday NewsPaper or Monthly magazine. The comic section, SPORTS section, Science section, Obituaries so on and so fourth...

Atheist,

It just seems to me that LRH was using then "current events" to get the Xenu stories down. Did anyone see "The Usual Suspects"?

If the xenu story (or something stronly resembling it) is discovered to have been published before LRH wrote OT3, a Scientologist could explain it by saying that this memory is buried deep within all of us so it is not unthinkable that someone remembered parts of it and used it in a comic book.

Mike

Mike and Atheist,

OK - maybe I'm not explaining myself correctly..

I think he got the entire story from different sections within 1 sinlge Newspaper or Mag. Why? Because he seems to be using CURRENT EVENTS that date around the early 60s. NOT from one story or article but many different. He seems to be the lazy type..

Level1:

Yes, I've seen The Usual Suspects and I know what you're suggesting (for the benefit of those who have NOT seen The Usual Suspects, I will not elaborate).

LRH's description of the Marcab Confederacy, a civilization with space travel that somehow has cars, buses, trains and even men's fashion that looks just like what was seen in 1950s USA and UK strongly suggests that he was not talking out of memory, but from an imagination that fills the blanks with images he sees around him.

Now if you haven't seen the Ususal Suspects, don't think to hard about what I've written, just go rent the movie.

Mike

LOL, Tory, I apologize for implying that you were drunk...but I did say "seemingly." (I have a bunch of sentences to say about this, so I'll post it to you on a smaller thread.

Mike, BOO 2U! You may have ruined our fun with that brilliant justification. From a Scno perspective, it makes perfect sense that one could incorperate Incident II memories into a creative project.

I wonder if many Scnos consider that there is NO imagination, just past memories of events and implants.?? I've never had any past life memories myself, but I've been told many times that I have a wild imagination.

Regarding "The Usual Suspects," I remember that classic flick vividly. I happened to see it opening night, which coincidentally was the night after I lost my virginity
Oh Keyser Soze`...you're so "Verbal!"

Jason....

THANK YOU

Whatever....I was not, nor was I acting like I was.

Just e-mail me, vs an entire thread on your perceptions of this. It's too boring!

All the best

Tory/Magoo!

Jason:

QUOTE:I wonder if many Scnos consider that there is NO imagination, just past memories of events and implants.??
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There's nothing I'm aware of anything that says imagination doesn't exist, but a Scientologist once told me that the Star Wars movies were based on Whole Track events. In fact, the opening title "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" supports that belief.

Mike

Oh now that would just be a real bummer for Spielburg. It is amazing how many different types of bipedial 1 1/2 - 2 meter tall organisms there are spread out over all of the galaxies and over time.

Mike, i'm not sure,but I believe imagination while auditing whole track is called "Dub in".

A term lifted from the recording industry.

Umike

Yes, the term "dub-in" is an auditing term, but I suspect they are rather poor at detecting it.

Mike